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bp33 · 21 July 2020, 12:20 AM

How long do you think I would have to wait to purchase a no date Sub in the UK from an AD?

Also has anyone ever seen them in an AD window, for immediate sale?

G3Z · 21 July 2020, 12:26 AM

At least 12 months and there’s none in any AD windows. They’re all sold before they make it to the window.

MillyS · 21 July 2020, 12:54 AM

Nothing in the windows. People have been quoted different time scales - few months to few years.

I was lucky and got allocated one within a month with no prior history.

8 months - year is realistic.

bp33 · 21 July 2020, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MillyS

Nothing in the windows. People have been quoted different time scales - few months to few years.

I was lucky and got allocated one within a month with no prior history.

8 months - year is realistic.

You must have thought you’d won the lottery. LOL

Rwatcher · 21 July 2020, 01:48 AM

I waited 8 months for my non date from AD. Was not my first purchase from them and honestly expected quicker.

With rumours of a new submariner come the 1st September who knows what the future holds for a submariner wait.

Best of luck.

wigdog63 · 21 July 2020, 02:05 AM

I bought one a year ago-waited less than 2 months from UK AD.
I had previously bought one Rolex from them in 2001.

nighthawk77 · 21 July 2020, 02:22 AM

There's no straightforward answer. It will depend on a number of factors including your purchase history, the demand from your chosen AD, and the amount of timepieces that AD is allocated by Rolex.

12 months ago I couldn't even get on a waitlist for either a date or no date version. A few purchases later (OP39, Explorer & womens OP26), and my wait was the time it takes to exchange a few text messages. This was during lock down however, so probably not the best example to compare to, but goes to show there's no set formula...

Tools · 21 July 2020, 03:07 AM

It's just a Sub; the other one is a Sub Date.

Mynameistrent · 21 July 2020, 03:09 AM

I paid the premium, approx. £700 for me after no luck on any ADs lists

Steve36Efc · 21 July 2020, 03:18 AM

Purchased from the AD window in July 2012, but it was different times back then.
Good luck with the hunt.

Polarexplorerii · 21 July 2020, 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

It's just a Sub; the other one is a Sub Date.

Its not just a Sub, its a iconic piece that every watch collector should own..

MillyS · 21 July 2020, 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bp33

You must have thought you’d won the lottery. LOL

lol - yup sure did

Simon_jrees · 21 July 2020, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bp33

How long do you think I would have to wait to purchase a no date Sub in the UK from an AD?

Also has anyone ever seen them in an AD window, for immediate sale?

The only sub I've seen recently was in WOS, Cardiff center and it was a full gold.... it was also the only sports watch in the window.

214270Explorer · 21 July 2020, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

It's just a Sub; the other one is a Sub Date.

Totally fruitless for any attempt to teach folks the true I.D. Just too many people now calling it the Sub No Date to stamp it out.

And I agree -->

WatchThinker · 21 July 2020, 08:59 AM

I waited for about 4 months. BTW: I think as a matter of forum etiquette, can we just forgive people for calling it a Sub No Date! I did that on my first “Hey I got one” post and the correction was such a downer. How about “good luck w/the watch!”

campfire · 21 July 2020, 09:15 AM

OP, hope you get your watch soon. You never know. It may come sooner than you think. All the best.

escobar144 · 21 July 2020, 09:28 AM

Right now is the time to get one if you can. Alot of people who were on the waitlist for a sub arent buying because of either COVID or they are waiting for the new sub to be announced in Sept. I would cold call every AD in your area and let them know that you are interested in a Sub. You might get lucky

HeadCoach · 21 July 2020, 11:50 AM

I waited 1 month. I walked into my Rolex dealer in Kansas City where I purchased my first Rolex and looked at EMPTY cases...I also bought my wife’s wedding ring and a diamond necklace from there. They had a used Sub for sale and were charging a premium for it. I asked my AD to keep me in mind if they get a sub at anytime.

One month later, while living in GA, I got a call saying they had a ND sub and asked if I wanted it. I jumped all over it and he mailed it to me overnight so I wouldn’t have to pay tax on it.

So yes I have had a purchase history with them, but was very surprised when I got the call so quick. I recently told them to put me on the list for a Hulk or a GMT. So keeping my fingers crossed I get another call soon.

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bp33 · 21 July 2020, 05:12 PM

Thanks for replies, people. Much appreciated.

Nairn1980 · 21 July 2020, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mynameistrent

I paid the premium, approx. £700 for me after no luck on any ADs lists

£700 premium on a no date is actually “good”
Today I saw one for £8995....a £2695 premium....yes that’s high but £700 I think is decent for the convenience.

ec00421 · 21 July 2020, 08:35 PM

All depends on the location, relationship with the AD etc.

I managed to get mine in 2 days from an AD i have a relationship with.

Simon_jrees · 21 July 2020, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ec00421

All depends on the location, relationship with the AD etc.

I managed to get mine in 2 days from an AD i have a relationship with.

This also

joli160 · 21 July 2020, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 214270Explorer

Totally fruitless for any attempt to teach folks the true I.D. Just too many people now calling it the Sub No Date to stamp it out.

And I agree -->

Better than all other names flying around for other watches

doramas · 21 July 2020, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

It's just a Sub; the other one is a Sub Date.

You're one of my people. The Submariner and Submariner Date. There is no Submariner no date

HERITAGE82 · 21 July 2020, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doramas

You're one of my people. The Submariner and Submariner Date. There is no Submariner no date

Exactly ....

brandrea · 21 July 2020, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joli160

Better than all other names flying around for other watches

Have to agree, even though he’s 100% correct

Sub_Mike · 22 July 2020, 01:18 AM

Hi OP and everyone, long time lurker, first post.

I managed to get my ND Sub last May from an AD in London within 2 days and with no prior purchase history. Like many of us, I had spent many hours on the phone speaking to every AD within a 50 mile radius and trying to get onto their wait lists. During this arduous process I was quoted a wait time of between 12 months to 7 years (I wish I was joking about the 7 years).

I decided at that point that I needed to set myself apart from everyone else who was doing the same so I decided to visit some AD's in London, one of those being Harrods. I had arranged to meet an SA whom I had spoken to on the phone but when I arrived and he wasn't there and I introduced myself to the branch manager instead. We had a really good chat and I explained how this watch was my grail and that I had been saving solidly for 4 years to buy it (all true). We ended the conversation and he gave me his card and later that day I followed up with an email thanking him for his time.

2 days later I receive a call from the SA who I had intended to meet, informing me that my watch was ready to collect.

My advice OP would be to set yourself apart in whatever way you can so that you are the first person they think of when a Sub comes in (I appreciate that is a crazy concept when wanting to part with over £6k on a luxury item but such are the times unless you go grey).

Apologies for the long post and best of luck in your search OP. It is possible to get a Sub in a short time with a little effort and leg work.

Sub_Mike · 22 July 2020, 01:34 AM

Hi OP and everyone, long time lurker, first post.

I managed to get my ND Sub last May from an AD in London within 2 days and with no prior purchase history. Like many of us, I had spent many hours on the phone speaking to every AD within a 50 mile radius and trying to get onto their wait lists. During this arduous process I was quoted a wait time of between 12 months to 7 years (I wish I was joking about the 7 years).

I decided at that point that I needed to set myself apart from everyone else who was doing the same so I decided to visit some AD's in London, one of those being Harrods. I had arranged to meet an SA whom I had spoken to on the phone but when I arrived and he wasn't there and I introduced myself to the branch manager instead. We had a really good chat and I explained how this watch was my grail and that I had been saving solidly for 4 years to buy it (all true). We ended the conversation and he gave me his card and later that day I followed up with an email thanking him for his time.

2 days later I receive a call from the SA who I had intended to meet, informing me that my watch was ready to collect.

My advice OP would be to set yourself apart in whatever way you can so that you are the first person they think of when a Sub comes in (I appreciate that is a crazy concept when wanting to part with over £6k on a luxury item but such are the times unless you go grey).

Apologies for the long post and best of luck in your search OP. It is possible to get a Sub in a short time with a little effort and leg work.

21 July 2020, 12:20 AM	#1
bp33 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Borders Posts: 70	No date Sub How long do you think I would have to wait to purchase a no date Sub in the UK from an AD? Also has anyone ever seen them in an AD window, for immediate sale?

21 July 2020, 03:07 AM	#8
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,502	It's just a Sub; the other one is a Sub Date. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

21 July 2020, 03:18 AM	#10
Steve36Efc "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Wales Watch: 126603 Posts: 2,606	Purchased from the AD window in July 2012, but it was different times back then. Good luck with the hunt. __________________ 126711 CHNR 126603 Sea-Dweller 126600 Sea-Dweller Omega Seamaster 300

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21 July 2020, 12:26 AM	#2
G3Z "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: United Kingdom Watch: Omega, Rolex etc.. Posts: 316	At least 12 months and there’s none in any AD windows. They’re all sold before they make it to the window.

21 July 2020, 12:54 AM	#3
MillyS "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: London Watch: 114060, 126710BLNR Posts: 123	Nothing in the windows. People have been quoted different time scales - few months to few years. I was lucky and got allocated one within a month with no prior history. 8 months - year is realistic.

21 July 2020, 01:48 AM	#5
Rwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: North,UK Posts: 445	I waited 8 months for my non date from AD. Was not my first purchase from them and honestly expected quicker. With rumours of a new submariner come the 1st September who knows what the future holds for a submariner wait. Best of luck.

21 July 2020, 02:05 AM	#6
wigdog63 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Real Name: Richard Location: Hove,GB Watch: me prevaricate. Posts: 241	I bought one a year ago-waited less than 2 months from UK AD. I had previously bought one Rolex from them in 2001.

21 July 2020, 02:22 AM	#7
nighthawk77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: UK Posts: 1,144	There's no straightforward answer. It will depend on a number of factors including your purchase history, the demand from your chosen AD, and the amount of timepieces that AD is allocated by Rolex. 12 months ago I couldn't even get on a waitlist for either a date or no date version. A few purchases later (OP39, Explorer & womens OP26), and my wait was the time it takes to exchange a few text messages. This was during lock down however, so probably not the best example to compare to, but goes to show there's no set formula...

21 July 2020, 03:09 AM	#9
Mynameistrent "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: UK Posts: 15	I paid the premium, approx. £700 for me after no luck on any ADs lists

21 July 2020, 08:59 AM	#15
WatchThinker "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: In a city Posts: 377	I waited for about 4 months. BTW: I think as a matter of forum etiquette, can we just forgive people for calling it a Sub No Date! I did that on my first “Hey I got one” post and the correction was such a downer. How about “good luck w/the watch!”

21 July 2020, 09:15 AM	#16
campfire "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: here Posts: 2,104	OP, hope you get your watch soon. You never know. It may come sooner than you think. All the best.

21 July 2020, 09:28 AM	#17
escobar144 Banned Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: LA Watch: Submariner/DJ 41 Posts: 506	Right now is the time to get one if you can. Alot of people who were on the waitlist for a sub arent buying because of either COVID or they are waiting for the new sub to be announced in Sept. I would cold call every AD in your area and let them know that you are interested in a Sub. You might get lucky

21 July 2020, 11:50 AM	#18
HeadCoach "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: CA Posts: 70	I waited 1 month. I walked into my Rolex dealer in Kansas City where I purchased my first Rolex and looked at EMPTY cases...I also bought my wife’s wedding ring and a diamond necklace from there. They had a used Sub for sale and were charging a premium for it. I asked my AD to keep me in mind if they get a sub at anytime. One month later, while living in GA, I got a call saying they had a ND sub and asked if I wanted it. I jumped all over it and he mailed it to me overnight so I wouldn’t have to pay tax on it. So yes I have had a purchase history with them, but was very surprised when I got the call so quick. I recently told them to put me on the list for a Hulk or a GMT. So keeping my fingers crossed I get another call soon. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

21 July 2020, 05:12 PM	#19
bp33 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Borders Posts: 70	Thanks for replies, people. Much appreciated.

21 July 2020, 08:35 PM	#21
ec00421 Banned Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NY Posts: 513	All depends on the location, relationship with the AD etc. I managed to get mine in 2 days from an AD i have a relationship with.

22 July 2020, 01:18 AM	#27
Sub_Mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: London Watch: Submariner 114060 Posts: 6	Hi OP and everyone, long time lurker, first post. I managed to get my ND Sub last May from an AD in London within 2 days and with no prior purchase history. Like many of us, I had spent many hours on the phone speaking to every AD within a 50 mile radius and trying to get onto their wait lists. During this arduous process I was quoted a wait time of between 12 months to 7 years (I wish I was joking about the 7 years). I decided at that point that I needed to set myself apart from everyone else who was doing the same so I decided to visit some AD's in London, one of those being Harrods. I had arranged to meet an SA whom I had spoken to on the phone but when I arrived and he wasn't there and I introduced myself to the branch manager instead. We had a really good chat and I explained how this watch was my grail and that I had been saving solidly for 4 years to buy it (all true). We ended the conversation and he gave me his card and later that day I followed up with an email thanking him for his time. 2 days later I receive a call from the SA who I had intended to meet, informing me that my watch was ready to collect. My advice OP would be to set yourself apart in whatever way you can so that you are the first person they think of when a Sub comes in (I appreciate that is a crazy concept when wanting to part with over £6k on a luxury item but such are the times unless you go grey). Apologies for the long post and best of luck in your search OP. It is possible to get a Sub in a short time with a little effort and leg work.

22 July 2020, 01:34 AM	#28
Sub_Mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: London Watch: Submariner 114060 Posts: 6	Hi OP and everyone, long time lurker, first post. I managed to get my ND Sub last May from an AD in London within 2 days and with no prior purchase history. Like many of us, I had spent many hours on the phone speaking to every AD within a 50 mile radius and trying to get onto their wait lists. During this arduous process I was quoted a wait time of between 12 months to 7 years (I wish I was joking about the 7 years). I decided at that point that I needed to set myself apart from everyone else who was doing the same so I decided to visit some AD's in London, one of those being Harrods. I had arranged to meet an SA whom I had spoken to on the phone but when I arrived and he wasn't there and I introduced myself to the branch manager instead. We had a really good chat and I explained how this watch was my grail and that I had been saving solidly for 4 years to buy it (all true). We ended the conversation and he gave me his card and later that day I followed up with an email thanking him for his time. 2 days later I receive a call from the SA who I had intended to meet, informing me that my watch was ready to collect. My advice OP would be to set yourself apart in whatever way you can so that you are the first person they think of when a Sub comes in (I appreciate that is a crazy concept when wanting to part with over £6k on a luxury item but such are the times unless you go grey). Apologies for the long post and best of luck in your search OP. It is possible to get a Sub in a short time with a little effort and leg work.

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