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27 September 2020, 03:38 AM | #62 |
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There’s no way to justify the value. Folks who buy Rolex are not paying for a commodity like steel or gold. We are paying for a luxury item. Don’t drive yourself nuts trying to justify value where it’s not possible to do so (based on the materials of the watch).
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27 September 2020, 07:52 AM | #64 |
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I don't understand the allure of white gold. (Yellow either but that's another topic) It looks enough like SS to actually BE SS. If I'm buying something that's gold, I want it to LOOK like, you know, Gold.
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27 September 2020, 12:08 PM | #66 |
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Thanks man.
I'm currently in a position to buy my first luxury watch (about $10k) and on waitlist for a Sub, GMT, and OP41. Once I get 2 of those I'll start shopping for dress watches probably. I figure it'll take about 3-5 years to get there. |
27 September 2020, 12:10 PM | #67 | |
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27 September 2020, 12:18 PM | #68 | |
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I've worn solid gold and platinum watches though and they are heavier with platinum being noticeably heavier than steel. Gold felt about the same as steel. What do you mean by pinnacle? Like the yellowist? The hottest watches these days are carbon/plastic Richard Mille style multi-tourbillon yada yadas. The Paul Newman Daytona is often considered the pinnacle of wrist watches with the highest selling value to date afaik; it was made of steel. Most people live in poverty or near poverty and don't think about watches let alone gold watches. Many people don't like the idea of showing off wealth to people who can't afford it but you do you Boo. I think the YG Sub is one of the ugliest and tackiest watches Rolex makes but that's just one guy's opinion |
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27 September 2020, 12:31 PM | #71 | |
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But I do think YG Subs are pretty trashy looking. Reminds me of Invicta. |
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27 September 2020, 01:10 PM | #72 | |
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Even factoring in a gold watch at 18k it would be almost twice the weight of a steel one if the actual cubic centimetre volumes were the same. Rolex has been known to hollow out some gold components on their watches and a weight comparison watch to watch is not accurate. There seems to be a lot of misinformation on this thread? I don’t know where to start. I have been involved with gold refining for >30 years. Pix of refined Au. 99.9999 pure about to be melted and then just out of the demin precipitation tank.
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Daydate weighs around 225-250 grams and a steel watch around 150. It's a difference for sure! The platinum just felt, more. Like I could forget I had a gold watch on my wrist. But the platinum felt like there was always something there. I think a platinum model weighs an extra 40 grams or so over gold. You'd probably be as good as anyone to ask how much pure gold you think you could get out of a YG DD and what that value would be like to a scrapper. We all know a Rolex is worth more as a watch than as scrap but just curiosity! |
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Unfortunately some around here are reticent to allow facts to interfere with their opinion :) Thanks for the cool shots — would love to hear more about your work in a different thread on gold. To the OP: Yes there is a somewhat different process involved in the creation of Rolex’s WG vs. the more traditional YG formulation. The same can be said for Rolex’s RG. However the driver for the cost delta between WG and the others is not about “extra metals” as someone mentioned previously...it’s all about supply and demand. Just watch — if/when YG gets popular again, it will command a premium over WG. Just like in the days of the 1803 DD... |
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The broader point remains of course; the Pt/YG/WG/Steel price difference can't really be explained with the cost of raw materials. |
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If theoretically you got 76 grams of gold out of the watch you’d have about $4,740 worth of gold going by market value. I think what would be interesting to see is how much it would cost to extract the gold, refine it and mold it then certify it and then sell on the market. I still think $2,000 is the actual value of the scrap watch but I’d like to know. To go from watch to certified market committee and sold to someone or an entity has got to cost a lot in materials time and effort. I’d also be interested to know more about street platinum scrap value for the 95% platinum watches and if they need as much of a process to sell. My current collection is: Apple Watch 70 year old filled/rolled 14K Elgin Shockmaster (which ran when wound after 40+ years without a service, maybe no service ever!) Tissot Gentleman Powermatic 80 Siliciim steel with blue dial (impressively accurate) |
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Classic case of everyone can have their own opinions, but not their own facts My comments from earlier trying to help with the "probably $2000 of gold" in your watch... Quote:
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