Vacheron Contantin- Undervalued

[gnuyork]

Originally Posted by Patton250

Nah. The blue for this particular reference is a horrible looking blue especially compared to the blues from Patek, AP and Rolex. Silver for this reference is perfect. I’ve owned both and I got rid of the blue. Now as far as size goes it’s too freaking big. Just like the 15500. This reference would be much better off in 39mm. Or why not offer both sizes? Also I cannot believe this reference doesn’t hack. I realize that’s not important to some of the non WIS people but to me it’s very important. Still though I enjoy mine even though it looks big on my wrist. The strap change is brilliant and the bracelet is the best looking in its class in my opinion.

Wow, Brett. I'm surprised. I have tried on the blue in person and found it to be spectacular. Best blue dial I have ever seen (yet). That being said, I would go for the black or silver all day long. I agree on the 39mm 100%, that size would be perfect for my wrist and yours as well (if I recall we have the same).

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by gnuyork

Wow, Brett. I'm surprised. I have tried on the blue in person and found it to be spectacular. Best blue dial I have ever seen (yet). That being said, I would go for the black or silver all day long. I agree on the 39mm 100%, that size would be perfect for my wrist and yours as well (if I recall we have the same).

Believe me I was bummed out about it. I bought the blue because blue is always best right? But after I wore it for a while this blue is just weird. It’s like VC tried to get cute with it. Anyway I sold it because of my disappointment but because of my love for this brand and especially this reference I finally found a silver dial. Absolutely love it. But definitely too big. For me anyway.

[_speedmaster_]

Originally Posted by Patton250

Believe me I was bummed out about it. I bought the blue because blue is always best right? But after I wore it for a while this blue is just weird. It’s like VC tried to get cute with it. Anyway I sold it because of my disappointment but because of my love for this brand and especially this reference I finally found a silver dial. Absolutely love it. But definitely too big. For me anyway.

+1. The blue isn't really my taste, a bit too oversaturated. I tried one on with the full intention of buying the brown dial a while ago, but it wore a bit too large for me. 39mm would be prefect.

[ts3]

Originally Posted by Megalobyte

I honestly think the new OS wears smaller than 41mm suggests. And it’s fairly thin and light. I know blue is the obvious choice but the silver is very understated and really nice looking in person.


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Great shots, but it all depends on your perspective...

Coming from a Sea-Dweller or something similar the Overseas will wear smaller, thin and light. A car will feel light and nimble after owning a truck. LOL... Coming from a 5711 or a 15202 at just above 8mm the Overseas is one chunky watch at 11mm.

[capital]

My personal opinion is that they're lacking this one flagship model everyone is battling for (their Daytona, Nautilus, Royal Oak).

The OS is, to me, a watch with a dated design that isn't ageing well (especially the hands, indices, and bezel).

[fullofboats]

I found the 41 Overseas to wear exactly the same as the 41 RO

[mattrparker35]

Just picked up an Overseas 4500v black dial. Not much more I could ask for in a watch. Beautiful hand finishing, Geneva Seal, thin, not too flashy with polish (feels much less flashy than a DJ 41 to me), quick change straps, beautiful gloss black dial, dress and sport dual threat.

And that’s just the watch itself, not even mentioning the brand and its heritage. I feel like I scored big time with this one. And even apart from all the attributes and value, I just love the way it looks on wrist. Will post photos if I can figure out how to do so.

[NYG1121]

the wrist span if you include the integrated end links is about 3mm shorter on the VC than the RO 15500/15400

[Etschell]

the brand is and thus the watches are. but the overseas line is incredible.

[mickyd329]

The OS is a great watch. It gets the most wrist time in my collection. The strap system makes it very versatile. I think the finishing is superb and on par with AP or PP. It's definitely understated versus and AP or Rolex and that comes in handy.

[MeepHead]

I ask myself everyday why vc is undervalued. The answer is... it’s not. They’re just not selling overseas for six figures like a nautilus is. Any pre owned overseas I see is around 20k.. the patrimony is easily on par with a callatrava... I love vacheron. The overseas wears too large on my wrist but otherwise I’d buy one.

[cascavel]

Vacheron exists so that watch aficionados will have the opportunity to buy a terrific watch at a fair price and, at the same time, express their individuality. Most people don't take advantage of this.

[Chute]

Thanks to the OP for starting this thread and to all the contributors.
I’m considering the silver 4500v Overseas.
I have a black APRO 15400 and added rubber and alligator straps.
I like the ease in changing on the VC, plus the extension links (2 of them) are a big draw.
Honestly, I have tried to get a white PP 5711 since 2015 and it just never happened.
Now that they are discontinued and way to expensive for my comfort, the OS is very appealing.
I considered a silver AP 15300 but if the lug to lug on the VC really is 3mm shorter that the 15400, it should be perfect.
Hopefully I’ll be able to share some wrist shots and thoughts versus the 15400 soon.

[Secretariat]

Originally Posted by Chute

Thanks to the OP for starting this thread and to all the contributors.
I’m considering the silver 4500v Overseas.
I have a black APRO 15400 and added rubber and alligator straps.
I like the ease in changing on the VC, plus the extension links (2 of them) are a big draw.
Honestly, I have tried to get a white PP 5711 since 2015 and it just never happened.
Now that they are discontinued and way to expensive for my comfort, the OS is very appealing.
I considered a silver AP 15300 but if the lug to lug on the VC really is 3mm shorter that the 15400, it should be perfect.
Hopefully I’ll be able to share some wrist shots and thoughts versus the 15400 soon.

You're Very Welcome, Sir. By the way, I also have the VC Overseas 4500V in the Silver Dial.

[Scyb]

Hi all,

Looking for a bit of advice from all the seasoned VC collectors out there.

I will be picking up a 4500v blue dial from the boutique in the coming week. Are there any tips on what freebies to ask them for? I heard they may have a belt?

Thanks in Advance

[RollinMoses]

Originally Posted by Scyb

Hi all,

Looking for a bit of advice from all the seasoned VC collectors out there.

I will be picking up a 4500v blue dial from the boutique in the coming week. Are there any tips on what freebies to ask them for? I heard they may have a belt?

Thanks in Advance

Even if too late, I am sure you will want some extra straps. When I picked up a couple of straps from the boutique (having bought the watch at an AD with a discount) the manager gifted me (unprompted) a nice travel case for straps. Holds four and is really useful.

In general the service I have received from the VC boutique has been outstanding. They sent flowers when I said we did not want to come in to see some lady's watch because we just had a baby and when we dropped in with our toddler they gave him a watchmaking bear, a VC kids book on the history of watchmaking that was translated into the local language and a colouring book. I had an issue with my watch that was repaired by their watchmaker and once ready, since it wasn’t convenient for me to come into the boutique, they said they would send a courier, but actually one of the SAs delivered the repaired watch and documents to me at home.

[djona]

Originally Posted by RollinMoses

Even if too late, I am sure you will want some extra straps. When I picked up a couple of straps from the boutique (having bought the watch at an AD with a discount) the manager gifted me (unprompted) a nice travel case for straps. Holds four and is really useful.

In general the service I have received from the VC boutique has been outstanding. They sent flowers when I said we did not want to come in to see some lady's watch because we just had a baby and when we dropped in with our toddler they gave him a watchmaking bear, a VC kids book on the history of watchmaking that was translated into the local language and a colouring book. I had an issue with my watch that was repaired by their watchmaker and once ready, since it wasn’t convenient for me to come into the boutique, they said they would send a courier, but actually one of the SAs delivered the repaired watch and documents to me at home.

Outstanding service.

[Scyb]

Originally Posted by RollinMoses

Even if too late, I am sure you will want some extra straps. When I picked up a couple of straps from the boutique (having bought the watch at an AD with a discount) the manager gifted me (unprompted) a nice travel case for straps. Holds four and is really useful.

In general the service I have received from the VC boutique has been outstanding. They sent flowers when I said we did not want to come in to see some lady's watch because we just had a baby and when we dropped in with our toddler they gave him a watchmaking bear, a VC kids book on the history of watchmaking that was translated into the local language and a colouring book. I had an issue with my watch that was repaired by their watchmaker and once ready, since it wasn’t convenient for me to come into the boutique, they said they would send a courier, but actually one of the SAs delivered the repaired watch and documents to me at home.

I bought the watch already but thank you anyway

Ended up with a complimentary San Pellegrino and that was it

Beautiful watch though and I haven't been able to stop wearing it. The blue dial is radiant, glimmering different shades of blue depending on the setting. Sometimes it almost feels like a black dial when I look at it with an acute angle.

Would a white rubber strap look good with a blue dial?

[le_baron]

Originally Posted by Chute

I have a black APRO 15400 and added rubber and alligator straps.

Do you change the straps yourself? Bonus points if your AP came on the bracelet. The idea of removing the bracelet from my 15500 would terrify me.

Originally Posted by AHG

I think Vacheron is much more than the OS. I just ordered a Traditionnelle small seconds. I just find it to have more character than a Patek

The Vacheron I came closest to purchasing is the Patrimony Traditionelle. I would especially love the boutique-exclusive version with the textured dial, ref. 82172/000R-9888. Congrats on your purchase of one; I agree it has more character than the (most comparable) Patek 5196.

[AHG]

Originally Posted by le_baron

The Vacheron I came closest to purchasing is the Patrimony Traditionelle. I would especially love the boutique-exclusive version with the textured dial, ref. 82172/000R-9888. Congrats on your purchase of one; I agree it has more character than the (most comparable) Patek 5196.

Thanks. I did not get the boutique exclusive with the guilloche but that is gorgeous. I couldn't be happier though.

[AHG]

I personally don't love the OS design, but appreciate it nonetheless. But I think Vacheron is much more than the OS. I just ordered a Traditionnelle small seconds. I just find it to have more character than a Patek as do many of their watches. I love Patek as well (though I don't own one) but I appreciate that Vacheron has watches that are more "outside of the box" especially given how old of a brand they are. In addition I think Patek movements are still underwhelming from a power reserve capacity.
Vacheron's problem is marketing.

[snarkq]

You have to ask how czapek in their first attempt produced a stronger design than the overseas? Vacheron strength is not design. Great value yes.

The overseas perpetual ultra thin is an exception


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[ap1]

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[Secretariat]

Originally Posted by ap1

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Beautiful.

[MeepHead]

Does anyone here own a 37mm overseas.. I wish it had the same layout as the 41mm. The 41mm is too big for me overall because of the way the watch rests. The 37mm might be too small. 7” wrists.

[Etschell]

Originally Posted by MeepHead

Does anyone here own a 37mm overseas.. I wish it had the same layout as the 41mm. The 41mm is too big for me overall because of the way the watch rests. The 37mm might be too small. 7” wrists.

wish they made a 39 tbh. it would be

[gnuyork]

Originally Posted by Etschell

wish they made a 39 tbh. it would be

Agree, 39 would be perfect for the Overseas.

[Secretariat]

Originally Posted by Patton250

Believe me I was bummed out about it. I bought the blue because blue is always best right? But after I wore it for a while this blue is just weird. It’s like VC tried to get cute with it. Anyway I sold it because of my disappointment but because of my love for this brand and especially this reference I finally found a silver dial. Absolutely love it. But definitely too big. For me anyway.

Originally Posted by _speedmaster_

+1. The blue isn't really my taste, a bit too oversaturated. I tried one on with the full intention of buying the brown dial a while ago, but it wore a bit too large for me. 39mm would be prefect.

Originally Posted by gnuyork

Agree, 39 would be perfect for the Overseas.

Do you guys feel that a the VC Overseas 4500v would look too big for a 6.5 Inches wrist?
Thanks.

[Fishrus]

Originally Posted by Secretariat

Do you guys feel that a the VC Overseas 4500v would look too big for a 6.5 Inches wrist?
Thanks.

Best to go to an ad or boutique to take a look. Personally i feel that it would be ok.

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by Secretariat

Do you guys feel that a the VC Overseas 4500v would look too big for a 6.5 Inches wrist?
Thanks.

Here is mine on my 6.5” wrist. I think it looks too big but in my case I don’t care. It’s such an absolutely beautiful reference. This dial is perfect. Still though 38 or 39 mm would be much better overall because this is a dress watch in my opinion not a sports watch. If AP can make 37, 39 and 41mm then VC can do the same.