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Old 24 March 2022, 12:12 PM   #31
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I’d take a 11 over a 12 all day long
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Old 24 March 2022, 08:44 PM   #32
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I'd give that award to the Smurf, but each to our own.
Personally I find the "hulk" the least iconic sub. Its got both the ugly, thick lugs and a washed out garden furniture plastic coloured bezel

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Old 24 March 2022, 09:12 PM   #33
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12 series is the most comfortable Submariner I’ve worn. Almost as balanced a design as the 5 digit (or older refs), but with a better engine. 11 series kinda looks like it’s puffing out it’s chest a little to me, like the guy at the gym who only does arm and shoulder work outs...
EDIT: For folks with wrists 8 inches and larger, the bigger form factor of the 11 series may be a good thing.
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Old 24 March 2022, 09:22 PM   #34
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I’d take a 11 over a 12 all day long
Me too. The 11 series was, and still is IMO, the most perfect Sub ever made (for me).
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Old 24 March 2022, 09:39 PM   #35
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No hate, just different strokes for different folks is all
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Old 24 March 2022, 09:43 PM   #36
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no hate, just different strokes for different folks is all
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Old 24 March 2022, 10:01 PM   #37
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I walked around the corner once and found 2 116610s bullying a 14060

Hated them ever since
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Old 24 March 2022, 10:05 PM   #38
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Not too long ago

116610 SUB CERAMIC and its variations is loved by Rolex collectors and they called it BEST ROLEX SUB EVER Produce

Now when 126610 and variations was introduced

11661X are Hated and called one of the worst SUB ?They said if you buy a sub, either 16610 or 126610 and should ignore 116610??

Why opinion change so fast ? what make 126610 so much better than 116610 that we should bypass the Maxi Sub C??
Who said this??? The 116610 took major criticism since it was released for its blocky case.
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Old 24 March 2022, 10:13 PM   #39
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116610 SUB CERAMIC and its variations is loved by Rolex collectors and they called it BEST ROLEX SUB EVER Produce
Who said this???
Me, for one! And I still do.
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Old 24 March 2022, 10:32 PM   #40
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I do strongly dislike 97 or so percent of the Subs ever made since the beginning of time but that's because I really dislike the cyclops. I won't buy a watch with the cyclops but even that doesn't rise to the level of hate.

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Old 24 March 2022, 10:44 PM   #41
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If I was in the market for a Smurf for example, the lug size would not change my decision either way. It is just if you can get a new 12 at MSRP or a used 11, the decision is easy.
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Old 25 March 2022, 12:08 AM   #42
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Big fan of the 11661x series, thicker lugs included.
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Old 25 March 2022, 12:08 AM   #43
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I have a 116610 and 116618 LN. I really love them. The current series is fantastic as well, but not significantly different enough for me to want to trade up from the prior models.
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Old 25 March 2022, 12:45 AM   #44
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The next thread you start should be "Why do collectors HATE the Hulk and Daytona? Because they are good investments?"


That will get you lots of views. Cheers.
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Old 25 March 2022, 12:52 AM   #45
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Hate is a pretty strong word.

Some dislike the 11 series but personally for me, this is the perfect sub in every way.

11 Feels very top heavy which I like and tapers nicely to the clasp. The thicker lugs make it feel very modern and industrial.

Each to their own. Both are timeless pieces.

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Old 25 March 2022, 12:58 AM   #46
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Op what you smoking, hated? It’s still loved. Let stop the hating and love more
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Old 25 March 2022, 02:11 AM   #47
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Both the 11 and 12 series subs look almost identical, 99.9999% of the population don't care / notice the thick lugs which is a niche thing even among watch collectors. The DNA of the 12 series comes from its predecessor who was the first sub to use ceramic bezel, glidelock clasp, and the maxi case, the 12 series brought nothing new to the table...

I own a Hulk and a 41mm Sub ND, and personally I don't feel the difference, if anyone gets the chance to acquire either one at good price point don't think twice...
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Old 25 March 2022, 11:17 AM   #48
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Both the 11 and 12 series subs look almost identical, 99.9999% of the population don't care / notice the thick lugs which is a niche thing even among watch collectors. The DNA of the 12 series comes from its predecessor who was the first sub to use ceramic bezel, glidelock clasp, and the maxi case, the 12 series brought nothing new to the table...

I own a Hulk and a 41mm Sub ND, and personally I don't feel the difference, if anyone gets the chance to acquire either one at good price point don't think twice...
Thank you!

They are nearly the same watch unless someone literally holds their watch 3 inches away from their eyeball and prefers to read the lugs instead of the time. One is a minor refinement of the other.
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Old 25 March 2022, 03:15 PM   #49
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In a word, lugs.
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Old 25 March 2022, 03:50 PM   #50
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Never heard as well…
I heard totally the opposite evaluations!
The 116610 is the most masculine of the series…and the most particulate case…


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Old 25 March 2022, 04:11 PM   #51
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Old 25 March 2022, 05:08 PM   #52
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Sorry OP. I have an 116610LN, and love it!
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Old 25 March 2022, 05:13 PM   #53
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Big fan of the 11661x series, thicker lugs included.

Nice collection of Subs!
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