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Old 15 June 2022, 07:18 PM   #31
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The number of pages most likely includes listings for watches that have sold. Those pages are still in the system but do not display because they are not active. I could easily believe that DSW has had that many watches listed over the life of his site.

On the other hand I counted a local used market's inventory recently and they had 65 active listings for the 116500 in black dial alone, so there is a ton of inventory out there (but not quite that much!).
Agreed. The numbers are likely total sold since he switched to the new system. Completed transactions probably aren’t being cleared from inventory.
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Old 15 June 2022, 10:10 PM   #32
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Excellent point(s). As I wrote to another forum member in one of the other threads; I couldn't agree more.

(this is was what I posted in the other thread. Just to clarify)
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Agree as well, and bummed of what has become obvious is happening. Really disappointing.
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Old 15 June 2022, 11:21 PM   #33
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Old 16 June 2022, 12:00 AM   #34
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Agree as well, and bummed of what has become obvious is happening. Really disappointing.
Another thread closed just now. So to discuss topics related to this subject, is clearly much less interesting compared to finding 55 hundred new threads regarding "what watch are you wearing when you're doing the gardening, what watch are you wearing when walking the dog, what watch are you wearing when emptying the dishwasher" etc etc.

Or why is this watch better than the other one?
(just a small advice, use the search function. I can promise you that the same question has already been asked 10K times already through the years...)

I know I'm probably stepping on some toes here now, but this is getting a bit silly.

Anyhow, I guess I'll just return to reading "incoming, today's watch, why X watch is better than Y watch, what watch to wear when meeting the parents for the first time, what watch to bring to down town X city". Those threads tends to give me so much more knowledge regarding what is actually happening in the watch world.

I didn't post for over 2 years. Should probably go back into hiding again ;)

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Old 16 June 2022, 12:18 AM   #35
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Another thread closed just now. So to discuss topics related to this subject is clearly much less interesting that seeing 55 hundred new threads regarding what watch are you wearing when you're doing the gardening, what watch are you wearing when walking the dog, what watch are you wearing when emptying the dishwasher etc etc.

Or why is this watch better than the other one?
(just a small advice, use the search function. I can promise you that the same question has already been asked 10K times already through the years...)

I know I'm probably stepping on some toes here now, but this is getting a bit silly.

Anyhow, I guess I'll just return to reading "incoming, today's watch, why X watch is better than Y watch, what watch to wear when meeting the parents for the first time, what watch to bring to down town X city". Those threads tends to give me so much more knowledge regarding what is actually happening in the watch world.

I didn't post for over 2 years. Should probably go back into hiding again ;)

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Totally agree Joe. I've spent more time on this forum in the past two months than I have in the past two tears. It was painfully boring until recently. I truly don't understand locking the threads.
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Old 16 June 2022, 12:21 AM   #36
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Totally agree Joe. I've spent more time on this forum in the past two months than I have in the past two tears. It was painfully boring until recently. I truly don't understand locking the threads.
Clearly we understand what is going on. Do I agree with it? No. But what can we do if Mods only want selective topics to be talked about. Especially not threads that would hurt the business of the sellers on TRF.

It is what it is.
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Old 16 June 2022, 12:28 AM   #37
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I visit his website once in a while just for the laughs. Still requesting absolutely delusional prices.
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Old 16 June 2022, 12:37 AM   #38
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Clearly we understand what is going on. Do I agree with it? No. But what can we do if Mods only want selective topics to be talked about. Especially not threads that would hurt the business of the sellers on TRF.

It is what it is.
I guess I get it now. Interesting.
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Old 16 June 2022, 12:45 AM   #39
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Clearly we understand what is going on. Do I agree with it? No. But what can we do if Mods only want selective topics to be talked about. Especially not threads that would hurt the business of the sellers on TRF.

It is what it is.
I can imagine that they got a lot of pressure from greys and the sponsors at the bottom of this page.

But anyway, if greys think that speaking about the reality of the market is the origin of their issues but not what is happening with ECB (Italy and Greece), FED, BOJ, BOE, etc. Good luck to them...

I am a little saddened because I love reading TRF but the mods/admins' actions seem to not serve the diverse audience but a sub group of actors (greys) to the detriment of the majority. I hope that the admins will understand that letting this kind of conversation adds value and credibility to the forum.

A famous IT youtuber Linus Tech Tips which has +14M subs addressed that issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR5xwPPzmY4
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Old 16 June 2022, 12:50 AM   #40
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But anyway, if they think that speaking about the reality of the market is the origin of their issues but not what is happening with ECB (Italy and Greece), FED, BOJ, BOE, etc. Good luck to them...
Exactly, exactly this.

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Old 16 June 2022, 01:15 AM   #41
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I can imagine that they got a lot of pressure from greys and the sponsors at the bottom of this page.

But anyway, if greys think that speaking about the reality of the market is the origin of their issues but not what is happening with ECB (Italy and Greece), FED, BOJ, BOE, etc. Good luck to them...

I am a little saddened because I love reading TRF but the mods/admins' actions seem to not serve the diverse audience but a sub group of actors (greys) to the detriment of the majority. I hope that the admins will understand that letting this kind of conversation adds value and credibility to the forum.

A famous IT youtuber Linus Tech Tips which has +14M subs addressed that issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR5xwPPzmY4

Why should Greys care that prices are going down, if they are buying inventory at commensurately lesser prices from watch owners? Isn't their margin the same in either case?
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Old 16 June 2022, 01:17 AM   #42
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Why should Greys care that prices are going down, if they are buying inventory at commensurately lesser prices from watch owners? Isn't their margin the same in either case?
Not if they spent most of their liquidity buying at the peak. A lot of amateur greys were born the past couple of years.
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Old 16 June 2022, 02:15 AM   #43
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I can imagine that they got a lot of pressure from greys and the sponsors at the bottom of this page.

But anyway, if greys think that speaking about the reality of the market is the origin of their issues but not what is happening with ECB (Italy and Greece), FED, BOJ, BOE, etc. Good luck to them...

I am a little saddened because I love reading TRF but the mods/admins' actions seem to not serve the diverse audience but a sub group of actors (greys) to the detriment of the majority. I hope that the admins will understand that letting this kind of conversation adds value and credibility to the forum.

A famous IT youtuber Linus Tech Tips which has +14M subs addressed that issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR5xwPPzmY4
You want to post these kind of questions here.

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Old 16 June 2022, 02:28 AM   #44
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Why should Greys care that prices are going down, if they are buying inventory at commensurately lesser prices from watch owners? Isn't their margin the same in either case?
Because they keep a bunch in inventory and rather than have inventory profits when prices continue to rise, they have inventory losses as prices decline. In a steadily declining market (not saying this is one), it can be hard to make enough margin if you're buying last week and selling next week and prices are eroding in between.
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Old 16 June 2022, 02:51 AM   #45
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Why would you sit on 220 milgauss? Lol flirting with disaster.
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Old 16 June 2022, 02:55 AM   #46
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Why would you sit on 220 milgauss? Lol flirting with disaster.
true story. I went to one of my greys in January - February and they were hoarding and loading up on a good number of Milgauss watches because they were speculating that it would be discontinued after Watches and Wonders.

Obviously it didn't. Wonder how leveraged they are with all those watches sitting lol
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Old 16 June 2022, 02:57 AM   #47
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true story. I went to one of my greys in January - February and they were hoarding and loading up on a good number of Milgauss watches because they were speculating that it would be discontinued after Watches and Wonders.

Obviously it didn't. Wonder how leveraged they are with all those watches sitting lol
I'm sure they get less and less sleep each night. The Milgauss was supposed to be discontinued like 6 years ago now it seems lol I love the z blue, so maybe I'll get one at a good price in the near future!
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Old 16 June 2022, 03:07 AM   #48
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true story. I went to one of my greys in January - February and they were hoarding and loading up on a good number of Milgauss watches because they were speculating that it would be discontinued after Watches and Wonders.

Obviously it didn't. Wonder how leveraged they are with all those watches sitting lol
It’s funny about the Milgauss model. My brother has one. He rotates it with a 1675 fuschia, 6263, and 5711 among others. Time after time he is surprised by how many people give him complements on the watch. I do think they are pretty cool, but the others, much more interesting to me. To each is own I guess.
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Old 16 June 2022, 03:19 AM   #49
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It’s funny about the Milgauss model. My brother has one. He rotates it with a 1675 fuschia, 6263, and 5711 among others. Time after time he is surprised by how many people give him complements on the watch. I do think they are pretty cool, but the others, much more interesting to me. To each is own I guess.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not hating on the Milgauss and I also think it's a pretty damn cool reference.

The funny part was Grey dealers stocking up on them because of the speculation of it being discontinued.
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Don't get me wrong. I'm not hating on the Milgauss and I also think it's a pretty damn cool reference.

The funny part was Grey dealers stocking up on them because of the speculation of it being discontinued.
I know. I’m with you there. I guess what I was getting at is that a watch I don’t have much interest in, to others may have tremendous value. As far as hoarding watches, no thanks. I only have two wrists and when I wear more than one at a time, my wife says it looks tacky lol. YMMV
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