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Old 25 September 2020, 08:14 AM   #31
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Old 25 September 2020, 08:14 AM   #32
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Old 16 October 2020, 08:53 AM   #33
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Congratulations! What a beautiful watch. I was thinking about getting one too.

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Old 16 October 2020, 10:19 AM   #34
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Congratulations! What a beautiful watch. I was thinking about getting one too.

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Old 17 October 2020, 09:14 AM   #35
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Does anyone else feel like the bracelet is a little heavy?
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Old 17 October 2020, 09:16 AM   #36
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Does anyone else feel like the bracelet is a little heavy?
Nope but im used to soild bracelets.
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Old 25 October 2020, 06:23 PM   #37
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Great review for a great watch!

I love mine
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Old 26 October 2020, 01:18 AM   #38
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Old 26 October 2020, 01:20 AM   #39
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I got mine on a leather strap. It is so comfortable you hardly notice it.
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Old 26 October 2020, 10:36 AM   #40
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Going to try to add BB 58 blue to get some color in my mostly all black collection.
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Old 6 November 2020, 02:42 PM   #41
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What a great review. Similar to my thoughts. I’ve got both blue and black and the blue is the fave of the pair.

The other common gripe is the lack of adjustment in the bracelet. For the life of me I don’t understand why the micro adjust span is less than a link.

Other than that, there is not a lot to dislike here - obvs if you are dead set on wearing a Rolex it might not be for you, but I can’t think of many other watches that do it better at this price point.


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Love the watch, but the lack of adjustment bothered me too. So... I fixed it by retrofitting with a Rolex EasyLink.

So now, I find the watch just perfect!

Etschell, great comparison. I felt the same in comparison to the Rolex Submariner.
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Old 6 November 2020, 10:22 PM   #42
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Old 7 November 2020, 04:41 AM   #43
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Love the watch, but the lack of adjustment bothered me too. So... I fixed it by retrofitting with a Rolex EasyLink.



So now, I find the watch just perfect!



Etschell, great comparison. I felt the same in comparison to the Rolex Submariner.
Very cool

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Old 7 November 2020, 11:37 PM   #44
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Love the watch, but the lack of adjustment bothered me too. So... I fixed it by retrofitting with a Rolex EasyLink.

So now, I find the watch just perfect!

Etschell, great comparison. I felt the same in comparison to the Rolex Submariner.
ty sir!
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Old 8 November 2020, 12:17 AM   #45
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Great review. I went to try on one on leather and bracelet and was shocked how small it wore. Size of back bay 41 mm was better but both are on the thick side. Was def disappointed with the size on my 6.75 wrist.
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Old 8 November 2020, 01:28 AM   #46
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Great review. I went to try on one on leather and bracelet and was shocked how small it wore. Size of back bay 41 mm was better but both are on the thick side. Was def disappointed with the size on my 6.75 wrist.
Same as a 5 digit sub but smaller than the subc of course.
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Old 22 January 2021, 11:53 PM   #47
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Old 5 February 2021, 09:40 AM   #48
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Old 16 February 2021, 07:24 PM   #49
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Beautiful watch

I have the black tudor bb 58 and im starting to think i should have gotten the blue lol
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Old 5 October 2021, 02:43 AM   #50
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Great review of a great watch!

I sat on a wait list for a no date Submariner for like two years! The original BB 58 was nice, but it didn't overwhelm me. Then the BB 58 Navy Blue popped out and I loved it! Beyond the unbelievable color and looks that were covered so well in the review, you get an in-house movement with 70 hour power reserve, technology and quality such as silicon hairspring technology, full balance bridge, and a free sprung Microstella balance wheel. Oh, wait a minute; aren't those technologies some other Swiss company uses in their 3230/3235 movements. Yes, the Big Brother on the other side of the building in Geneva!
I got mine in September 2020 and my 1999 GMT II got a new home the watch winder. I couldn't be happier and forget the Sub.
In the comparison pictures to the sub, note the hands on the BB 58 are a bit wider and carry nearly double the lume. I love the way it is so readable in the dark; better than the GMT II. If you can ever get the two together and view them in the dark, the Tudor just pops.
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Old 5 October 2021, 06:36 AM   #51
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Forgot my one gripe; If the watch was going to carry through with the “Blue” theme, why didn’t Tudor use blue lume? Maybe Big Brother said “No!”
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Old 6 October 2021, 08:13 AM   #52
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Awesome review! I was used to large dial like the IWC 43mm pilot chronograph. BB58 gives me a new perspective, and I’m starting to like it.
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Old 31 October 2021, 06:42 PM   #53
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Great review! Thanks for sharing.
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Old 7 March 2022, 06:34 AM   #54
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I love this watch. I customized the strap with an everest blue band. It is one of my daily drivers. Great watch, it looks nice for casual wear and price point makes it one of the best watches that Tudor has made. I agree with the review.
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Old 18 March 2022, 11:39 PM   #55
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The Tudor Black Bay 58 Blue was released on July 1, 2020. I knew I had to have it and here is why.

The Original Black Bay 58

When the original Black Bay 58 was released at Basel 2018 I had quite an interest in the watch.  It had all the qualities I was looking for in a dive watch and the size was perfect for my wrist (a smidge under 6.5 inches). It had an in house movement with a 70 hour power reserve. It was 47.5 mm lug to lug. The lugs were sleek and chamfers were polished. Torch lume, a buttery smooth crown and 60 click bezel complete the compelling package. The dial was balanced with no date. It was under 12 mm thick and the price was...well we all know the value.

However, due to my collection having a 114060 I knew it was redundant and thus I passed. It would get less wrist time and I was better suited for adding a different piece to my collection which I did a little over a year later. But I thought to myself, 'Tudor wouldn't develop a new movement for just one iteration of this model, would they?' The next year came and I expected a new color or even a new Tudor Submariner. We got nothing. Still I thought to myself, 'can this really be it for the MT5402?'

The Black Bay 58 Blue

Fast forward to 2020 and, as we all know, Basel is postponed and then Rolex pulls out for good. Enthusiasts are left wondering if any new watches will be released. Of course in the state of affairs it is low on the list but this is our hobby so we cannot just forget. June 2020 arrives and the rumors are flying. Tudor and Rolex will release models. But what could it be?  In my own right I scour to find information and eventually stumble upon an Instagram picture reflecting a new Tudor Black Bay 58 - this one is in Blue. When I saw it I thought 'Oh it is nice but so what?.' Then I kept looking and the more I was the more I liked. It had everything I wanted in a dive watch but was a slight twist that I felt was enough to make it a new addition to my small collection. 

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Frustration and a Turn of Events

I have a few ADs I know decently well in the area. Well come to find out one was willing to sell me on the day prior to the release. However, the AD ended up backing out. I still have no answer. Now when I say AD I don't mean a sales rep. I mean the actual owner of the AD. Yes. It was terrible and I felt slighted but I do understand. It was sold to someone else. I would have to find another way.

Through a friend I met on this website I was able to get the watch a few weeks later. He knows who he is and it was a fantastic gesture. My frustration was short lived thanks to him. A few friends actually looked into it so I thank them all for looking out. 

The Dial (and Bezel insert)

This is the only difference between the original BB58. Some say the stainless steel color is lighter but I can not see that. The dial is stunning. There is no other blue like this blue in the Rolex and Tudor lineup. It is hard to describe but it can be monotone dark or light. The dial is actually textured. It is quite stunning. When it was released I was worried it would be the same color as the Black Bay 41 Blue bezel. It could not be further from that in the flesh. I will let the pictures do the talking.

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Comparison to the Rolex Submariner 114060

I thought many might find this interesting so I took some comparison shots to my Ceramic Sub C. These two watches compliment each other very well in my opinion. One is the ying and the other is the yang. Size wise they wear the very close but the Sub C with its fixed end links and larger lugs wears larger. You really cannot go wrong with either one of these watches. Perhaps it does not have the wrist presence of the Rolex but it has the charm that will keep you wearing it with its boxed sapphire crystal and 5 digit Rolex profile.

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Common Gripes of Others

The common gripes of others, that I have seen, are:

1. It is the same watch with a different color. So what?
2. It has a riveted bracelet for no reason. If it is not a real rivet bracelet it is worthless and horrible. 

My response to both is try the watch on. Blue is blue and yeah every brand has done it. But so what? Every brand also does black, white, green and so on. I assure you this blue is different and would look fantastic on a distressed leather strap. 

In terms of the second item I don't mind the riveted bracelet. It is a throwback to the days of the old Rolex and Tudor oyster bracelets. I know a lot of collectors are stuck on this point. All I can say as an owner is it is great and a mix up to the standard oyster styling. But I don't need to convince you - there are several strap options. 

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What is the Black Bay 58 Blue?

To me? Quite simply the best Tudor watch ever made. Now before the pitchforks come out let me tell you why (and no obviously I haven't owned every Tudor ever made). It is the modern five digit Submariner. Before flaming me, keep reading. You know the proportions because I detailed them above (which scream 5 digit Rolex), the lugs are slim, it does not have crown guards, it has a solid bracelet with no rattle, a better clasp (which isn't stamped) and has ceramic fitment in the flip lock, an in house movement with 70 hours of power reserve, 3 not 4 lines of text, green super luminova, a boxed sapphire crystal and an aluminum insert. The only thing it does not have is Rolex on the dial. But of course why would it?

Conclusion

There is seemingly nothing special about the Tudor Black Bay 58 Blue.  It is an unassuming release that gets a yawn from most as, "So what?". But look closer at what it sets out to do. It is an under the radar watch that shouldn't create such buzz but it did. Perhaps it is the year 2020 and the lack of releases. Only time will tell. But I will tell you this from owning the watch - the execution is just about as good as I have ever seen. 

You do not have to take my word for it. For the price of $3,700, or less if you loathe rivets, it can be yours. 

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Great review. Thanks for taking the time.
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Old 7 April 2022, 07:03 AM   #56
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Great review. Ive had the Tudor BB58 in a few colors and have the bronze boutique coming on today. Great little watches
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Old 2 May 2022, 09:07 PM   #57
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Excellent review. And excellent watch with a lot of value for the money.
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Old 26 May 2022, 02:42 PM   #58
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Old 13 September 2022, 01:04 AM   #59
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Glad to find this, great write-up OP.

What I like the most about the BB58 Blue is how unassuming it is at the onset, but when you really get into the details, one can appreciate it even more!

Vintage charm can be found everywhere. Elevated crystal, aluminum bezel, silver text, 5 lines, matte dial, meters-first, snowflake hands, no crown guards, rose crown, chamfers, diminutive size, and shield clasp. Just phenomenal
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Old 11 January 2023, 01:26 PM   #60
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Great write up, thanks for sharing. I don't like the thought of the "rivets" but I don't even know they're there, so carry on!!!

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