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Old 31 January 2023, 08:32 PM   #1
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I contacted the SA and asked her what she thought. She appreciated and thanked me for my transparency but recommended that I not sell it as it might negatively affect headquarters’ desire to to allocate this RO to me as well as future watches. The fact we are within a year of its initial purchase is certainly a key factor.

So now I have to choose if I buy it and then sell the ROO after and accept I will probably ruin future allocation opportunities, which may or may not be good depending on whatever SA I end up with back in the US, or I pass on it.
The yachtmaster will only get me approx 10K and although I could try to sell my DSSD (I love this watch and bought is at grey for MSRP), I’m not sure how close that would get me. Only reason to go this route would be to sell the ROO in a year or two and then buy another DSSD again haha. Seems feasible I guess although a bit silly.. how many RO’s does one need anyway?!? Would I really need more than a silver ROC and a Blue RO?

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Old 31 January 2023, 09:28 PM   #2
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I contacted the SA and asked her what she thought. She appreciated and thanked me for my transparency but recommended that I not sell it as it might negatively affect headquarters’ desire to to allocate this RO to me as well as future watches. The fact we are within a year of its initial purchase is certainly a key factor.

So now I have to choose if I buy it and then sell the ROO after and accept I will probably ruin future allocation opportunities, which may or may not be good depending on whatever SA I end up with back in the US, or I pass on it.
The yachtmaster will only get me approx 10K and although I could try to sell my DSSD (I love this watch and bought is at grey for MSRP), I’m not sure how close that would get me. Only reason to go this route would be to sell the ROO in a year or two and then buy another DSSD again haha. Seems feasible I guess although a bit silly.. how many RO’s does one need anyway?!? Would I really need more than a silver ROC and a Blue RO?

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You have a great and transparent SA.

I'd sell the YM and DSSD. This should get you close to the value of the RO.
You can always get another DSSD later even from an AD as there is less demand for it.
I have ROC 50th and recently got 15510. The 15510 is simply awesome, so I can highly recommend it.
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Old 31 January 2023, 10:06 PM   #3
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You have a great and transparent SA.

I'd sell the YM and DSSD. This should get you close to the value of the RO.
You can always get another DSSD later even from an AD as there is less demand for it.
I have ROC 50th and recently got 15510. The 15510 is simply awesome, so I can highly recommend it.
This. YM and DSSD aren’t special - they can already be found at pretty good prices, and things will likely just get worse.

I think you’ll regret passing on this. Will you really regret parting with the DSSD?
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Old 31 January 2023, 10:42 PM   #4
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This. YM and DSSD aren’t special - they can already be found at pretty good prices, and things will likely just get worse.

I think you’ll regret passing on this. Will you really regret parting with the DSSD?
The YM is small and while a great watch it just never clicked with me unfortunately so I totally agree.

The DSSD is actually a great watch in my opinion, fits me well but I totally agree with you that compared to the AP’s it’s not particularly special. It’s also a true tank which men’s sits a great option when I want to do some of the more reckless things In life like running with the bulls, skydiving, or spending a month training in Korea etc..

To complicate my decision, my wife prefers the ROO to the DSSD because it’s on the other spectrum with the ROC on one end as more dressy and the ROO as a very manly well fitting watch for someone my size. She says the DSSD fits between the two and doesn’t jump out. She has a datejust so she can appreciate watches for what they are even if the history some of us appreciate means nothing to her.

The problem is that I wore the DSSD more than the ROO so while maybe less special, I’m trying to be careful I don’t decide based on “rarity” or a companies status as much as what I truly want.
I guess I’m quite opposite so many of the recent threads about “which one hold its value most”…

I do acknowledge I’d regret passing on the RO so now it’s a matter of finding out how.
I took the advice of many and reached out to one of the grey dealers here to see what I would get for the DSSD - unfortunately it’s well worn so possibly not much.
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Old 31 January 2023, 10:59 PM   #5
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The YM is small and while a great watch it just never clicked with me unfortunately so I totally agree.

The DSSD is actually a great watch in my opinion, fits me well but I totally agree with you that compared to the AP’s it’s not particularly special. It’s also a true tank which men’s sits a great option when I want to do some of the more reckless things In life like running with the bulls, skydiving, or spending a month training in Korea etc..

To complicate my decision, my wife prefers the ROO to the DSSD because it’s on the other spectrum with the ROC on one end as more dressy and the ROO as a very manly well fitting watch for someone my size. She says the DSSD fits between the two and doesn’t jump out. She has a datejust so she can appreciate watches for what they are even if the history some of us appreciate means nothing to her.

The problem is that I wore the DSSD more than the ROO so while maybe less special, I’m trying to be careful I don’t decide based on “rarity” or a companies status as much as what I truly want.
I guess I’m quite opposite so many of the recent threads about “which one hold its value most”…

I do acknowledge I’d regret passing on the RO so now it’s a matter of finding out how.
I took the advice of many and reached out to one of the grey dealers here to see what I would get for the DSSD - unfortunately it’s well worn so possibly not much.
Yeah that’s tough no doubt. Where values matter is this situation right here - when you can’t afford em all right now but you want to end up with em all. DSSD will be there quite easily. So I’d say if you can live without it for a year or however long you want, I’d just sell the DSSD and YM. I don’t think you’d put much money on top of it
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Old 31 January 2023, 09:30 PM   #6
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Old 31 January 2023, 09:50 PM   #7
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Haha, you mean the one watch mentioned that isn’t considered for sale? Seems like a reasonable offer!
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Old 1 February 2023, 08:35 AM   #8
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I can help you....I will buy the 26240 at retail from you and I won't say a peep....seriously!
You’re a good man. I was gonna offer to buy the 15510 at retail from OP instead
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Old 1 February 2023, 06:36 AM   #9
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For me it depends on how much of a grail the blue dial is for you. I am like 5 watches deep with AP now in the US and have yet to be offered a blue dial so if going forward you will start a new relationship in the US it may take years and many purchases to get a blue RO again.
If I were offered a watch by AP at a time where I would have to sell others I would weigh up the watch vs the potential of losing the relationship and see which I care about more.
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Old 1 February 2023, 06:40 AM   #10
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Old 1 February 2023, 10:33 AM   #11
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It seems like you are attached to the DSSD and are more or less indifferent towards the ROO. If you say you’re selling the ROO do you think the boutique will pull the 15510 offer?
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Old 1 February 2023, 11:12 AM   #12
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take the 15510 no matter what. there is a good chance you will not connect with your new sa and its considered a grail piece for many!
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Old 1 February 2023, 12:16 PM   #13
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Your SA confirmed what I mentioned above. I would not count on this opportunity being presented to you again in another year. The comments from this forum are coming from 2 groups: those fortunate enough to have been allocated a 15510 blue; those still on the waitlist who would give their right arm to have your opportunity. The consensus from the collector community is unanimous: pull the trigger! You will not regret it. You’ll only regret the ones that got away — particularly a grail piece such as this.
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Old 1 February 2023, 02:06 PM   #14
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Think most would agree the YM and DSSD should go for this. Both easily obtained in the future if you desire whereabouts the AP is a cointoss
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Old 1 February 2023, 09:13 PM   #15
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Two actually! Haha

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You’re a good man. I was gonna offer to buy the 15510 at retail from OP instead
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It seems like you are attached to the DSSD and are more or less indifferent towards the ROO. If you say you’re selling the ROO do you think the boutique will pull the 15510 offer?
It’s possible they will but I could certainly wait to sell it in the near future once I purchase the 15510 if I choose to. I feel dishonest with the idea but it’s an option.

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take the 15510 no matter what. there is a good chance you will not connect with your new sa and it’s considered a grail piece for many!
Absolutely - certainly something I’m concerned about.

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Your SA confirmed what I mentioned above. I would not count on this opportunity being presented to you again in another year. The comments from this forum are coming from 2 groups: those fortunate enough to have been allocated a 15510 blue; those still on the waitlist who would give their right arm to have your opportunity. The consensus from the collector community is unanimous: pull the trigger! You will not regret it. You’ll only regret the ones that got away — particularly a grail piece such as this.
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Think most would agree the YM and DSSD should go for this. Both easily obtained in the future if you desire whereabouts the AP is a cointoss
Also true. I got a quote for the DSSD but it’s a little less than I could justify selling it for knowing I’d like to buy it again later…. But damn it is tempting.
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Old 1 February 2023, 10:02 PM   #16
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Blue dial 15510 isn’t something to miss out on. Like many have said in other boutiques you could be waiting years or never get one at all. AP’s blue is special, is by far and away the best colour to me, much more than the green even.

100% sell the yachtmaster and DSSD and there shouldn’t be a huge difference to step up to the 15510. If you find that you really miss the DSSD down the line then it’ll be a piece you’ll get from a Rolex AD pretty easily or on the grey market for a near retail price.
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Old 1 February 2023, 10:12 PM   #17
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If I were you, I would be already on the plane to Tokyo.
I have 15510 silver and had the chance to compare it to the blue dial.
The blue is less dynamic, it does not reflect light like the silver dial.
But it is a gorgeous color.
The proportions and ergonomics of 15510 is so good that I want to get another one.
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Old 2 February 2023, 06:04 AM   #18
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If I were you, I would be already on the plane to Tokyo.
I have 15510 silver and had the chance to compare it to the blue dial.
The blue is less dynamic, it does not reflect light like the silver dial.
But it is a gorgeous color.
The proportions and ergonomics of 15510 is so good that I want to get another one.
I’m probably flying there Friday night just to turn back around Sat afternoon..
I do love my silver ROC - you’re absolutely right about how it catches the light.
The only time I tried the blue 15510 was in a really dark area of a boutique in Taiwan so I suspect some hesitancy may derive from that interaction. I hope that changes this weekend when I go look at it.
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Old 3 February 2023, 02:58 AM   #19
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Just do it soldier. Go get your blue dial.
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Old 3 February 2023, 08:48 AM   #20
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I would get the blue 15510 immediately and do whatever you have to do to afford it (sell anything and everything else). I wouldn’t worry about future allocations bc if you had to sell the other prices for this, wouldn’t future allocations also put a strain on you financially? Most important thing about watches is to only buy what you can afford to lose, and assume values won’t go up in the long term. The blue 15510, however, worst case scenario will always hold its value imo
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Old 4 February 2023, 05:10 AM   #21
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I would get the blue RO 100%. AP announced it will start its own CPO program this year. Depending on their terms, and worst comes to worst, you might be able to sell them back the ROO and not hurt future allocations. Then again, it’s a risk since we don’t know what their terms and conditions will be when they launch..
Alternatively, I’d sell the rolex because AP blue RO> any rolex… (just my 2 cents). Good luck


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Old 5 February 2023, 04:23 PM   #22
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I’d like to say thank you to all of you who offered their thoughts.
Late Friday I flew to Tokyo and Saturday I met my SA.
As many of you already knew, it was too hard to pass so I ended up purchasing the 15510 and I would have been in and out of the store in 15 minutes had it not been for a great conversation with my SA for the next 45 mins. In the end I had to leave so I could catch my flight back to Okinawa a few hours later.
As always, a great experience and while I certainly won’t be able to afford another one anytime soon I don’t mind.

My SA again thanked me for my transparency and while it was obviously my choice she recommended keeping the ROO for at least 2 years from purchase before selling - even then there’s never a guarantee.

I reached out to one more trusted seller to see what they would offer for my AP and 2 Rolexes.
I absolutely want to keep the DSSD but understand I could purchase another later on if I wanted, and that selling the ROO would limit future AP’s - even if it wouldn’t be anytime soon.
That said, since I’ll be moving it’s impossible to know if I’ll even become this lucky again… so who knows.

I think I will insure all 3 AP’s with Hodinkee/Chubb since I’ll be moving this summer anyway and let’s face it, I’m a Marine - we aren’t known for being dainty haha.

No thread is complete without pics. Not great quality but it’s a gloomy day here.

Well… belay that, I’m having issues with tapa..
Pics will have to wait, I can’t get tapa to take anything.

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Old 5 February 2023, 04:41 PM   #23
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Congratulations, it’s great to read you were able to make it happen!
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I’d like to say thank you to all of you who offered their thoughts.
Late Friday I flew to Tokyo and Saturday I met my SA.
As many of you already knew, it was too hard to pass so I ended up purchasing the 15510 and I would have been in and out of the store in 15 minutes had it not been for a great conversation with my SA for the next 45 mins. In the end I had to leave so I could catch my flight back to Okinawa a few hours later.
As always, a great experience and while I certainly won’t be able to afford another one anytime soon I don’t mind.

My SA again thanked me for my transparency and while it was obviously my choice she recommended keeping the ROO for at least 2 years from purchase before selling - even then there’s never a guarantee.

I reached out to one more trusted seller to see what they would offer for my AP and 2 Rolexes.
I absolutely want to keep the DSSD but understand I could purchase another later on if I wanted, and that selling the ROO would limit future AP’s - even if it wouldn’t be anytime soon.
That said, since I’ll be moving it’s impossible to know if I’ll even become this lucky again… so who knows.

I think I will insure all 3 AP’s with Hodinkee/Chubb since I’ll be moving this summer anyway and let’s face it, I’m a Marine - we aren’t known for being dainty haha.

No thread is complete without pics. Not great quality but it’s a gloomy day here.

Well… belay that, I’m having issues with tapa..
Pics will have to wait, I can’t get tapa to take anything.
Congrats - almost missed the resolution to this dilemma! Good luck with the move!
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Old 5 February 2023, 05:30 PM   #25
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Big congrats Right decision for definite.
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Old 5 February 2023, 08:02 PM   #28
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Old 5 February 2023, 08:53 PM   #29
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Congrats, definitely the right decision! Looks great!
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Old 5 February 2023, 10:16 PM   #30
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Good move, this is the perfect RO for larger wrists and the blue dial is stunning. Did you consider the green dial to wear for work?


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