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Old 9 February 2023, 10:56 AM   #1
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Market 5164a

So interested in a 5164a. My long time Patek dealer no longer sells Patek. So starting over from square one. Will be about impossible to get one from another AD. Market had cooled some. Do you see it coming down another 20-30%? Or leveling out

5164 is hovering $65-80k on secondary market now.


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Old 9 February 2023, 11:04 AM   #2
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steel version will be $50-60 in no time
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Old 9 February 2023, 03:09 PM   #3
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steel version will be $50-60 in no time
Agreed, seeing them in the low 60s on Moda.

Does anyone remember what they traded pre watch hype?
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Old 9 February 2023, 03:14 PM   #4
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Agreed, seeing them in the low 60s on Moda.

Does anyone remember what they traded pre watch hype?
I think they are back to where they are Pre-covid. Maybe 10% to go down.
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Old 10 February 2023, 01:06 AM   #5
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Agreed, seeing them in the low 60s on Moda.

Does anyone remember what they traded pre watch hype?

I sold mine summer 2021 before stuff went nuts around 53k. It was 2018 excellent condition complete.
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Old 10 February 2023, 09:37 AM   #6
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A lot still sitting in the mid 70s, but doesn't seem to be moving fast. I know won't get at retail. But upper 50s low 60s would do it
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Old 10 February 2023, 06:47 PM   #7
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The retail for the watch is now 42+tax, in 2020 it was in the low 30s for retail, I think it's unlikely that it would sit in the 50s for a long time. But that being said I am biased towards it.
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Old 10 February 2023, 11:29 PM   #8
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Damn, I remember being able to get it for around $30k in 2016
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Old 11 February 2023, 12:09 AM   #9
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Damn, I remember being able to get it for around $30k in 2016
Same. Current retail is actually a bit insane tbh
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Old 11 February 2023, 12:13 AM   #10
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Get a 2020+ for 60-65 and you are in good shape
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Old 11 February 2023, 12:24 AM   #11
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Guys still asking $70k plus for 2020-2021 Will have to wait it out a little longer
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Old 11 February 2023, 02:31 AM   #12
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Damn, I remember being able to get it for around $30k in 2016
I got a discount on mine in 2017, $30K from the dealer! Heck, the 15202 and FBJ CB were both under MSRP grey as well! I don't think a 5164 will fall under MSRP unless we see all big watches start going under MSRP (5711, 15202, etc.).
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Old 14 February 2023, 04:05 AM   #13
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Does the production year matter much in regards to price? 2011 vs 2018+?


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Old 14 February 2023, 04:20 AM   #14
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Yes… Newer = More Expensive.
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Old 14 February 2023, 05:10 AM   #15
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Yes… Newer = More Expensive.

Is there a rough estimated % or $ difference?


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Old 14 February 2023, 09:11 AM   #16
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I do know of a 2020 that sold for $63k and 2021 that sold for $64k. Both of these were sold about a month ago…


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Old 14 February 2023, 07:43 PM   #17
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2022+ models have the "new" 26-330 movement in them with hacking feature. If you are able to get one of these, I'd prioritize them over earlier ones.

I also believe they won't be falling to pre-covid levels, simply due to the fact, that they are now substantially more expensive at retail. They were at 34k (EUR) if memory serves me correct pre early 2022 price increase. Now almost 42k here in Germany.
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Old 14 February 2023, 10:26 PM   #18
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Why was this moved to Watch out section?
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Old 14 February 2023, 10:27 PM   #19
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Why was this moved to Watch out section?

There are forum rules against price / what it's worth threads.
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Why was this moved to Watch out section?
Because it is about price speculation
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I do know of a 2020 that sold for $63k and 2021 that sold for $64k. Both of these were sold about a month ago…


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