New Submariner

[Subshark1861]

My new Sub (and first Rolex) has gained 6 seconds in 11 days. I'm really happy with that. I don't have a timegrapher, I just use an atomic clock app on my phone to roughly check. I'm not bothered about amplitude or beat error etc. (sorry). I bought it because I just love wearing it and looking at it!

Anyway, at night, I have it placed so 9pm is up. If I turn it in different directions at night, what can I expect to happen to the rate (I hope that's the correct term)?

[brandrea]

Congratulations on your new Submariner and welcome to the forum

[Kap007]

I'm guessing new watch. Not new to you. Saying that I'm fairly certain the newer movements are not effected by placement at night. I was testing my 116900(3131 movement) which is 2016-2022. I placed it crown up(which in the olden days is suppose to slow it down)it stayed exactly as I placed it for 42 hours. Did not gain or lose anything. But at the time while being worn was doing about 30 seconds fast a day. Still dealing with the issue. In NY right now under warranty.

[Subshark1861]

Brandrea - thanks for the welcome.

New watch from AD, I've had it a month.

[Harry-57]

Congratulations. A great watch and +6 seconds in 11 days is remarkable for a mechanical watch.

[JMGoodnight369]

Originally Posted by Subshark1861

My new Sub (and first Rolex) has gained 6 seconds in 11 days. I'm really happy with that. I don't have a timegrapher, I just use an atomic clock app on my phone to roughly check. I'm not bothered about amplitude or beat error etc. (sorry). I bought it because I just love wearing it and looking at it!

Anyway, at night, I have it placed so 9pm is up. If I turn it in different directions at night, what can I expect to happen to the rate (I hope that's the correct term)?

Interesting it’s gaining in that position. It seems like the 3235 is regulated to lose time in the 9 and 3 up positions usually. Mine does but it gains time when resting dial up. There’s a cool free app called WatchTracker you can get to keep up with them. Try different positions but keep in mind there is a settling period on new watches. Usually takes a couple months but they will slow down a bit. Mine went from +2.5ish to -0.4 over 60 days and is holding that for the last couple months

[Smobews]

Automatic movements usually run the fastest when resting dial up or dial down (horizontal). They run slightly slower when in any of the vertical positions. This is due to the different friction that the little rod the balance wheel is connected to experiences between the two positions. when the watch is horizontal, the rod in vertical, and the main point of friction is in the very point of the rod rubbing against the jewel that holds it in place. Think of a pencil upright; just the tip is touching. When the watch is vertical, the rod is horizontal, and the friction is now on more surface area on the jewels that hold the rod from the sides. Think of a pencil resting on two legos near each end.

The only way you will know how your watch performs in each position is to rest it in a particular position each night and see how it keeps time over a week. Try resting it on the crown down at night. It may or may not run a bit slower over the course of the week. Most likely, if you rest it dial up, it will run faster than the 2 spd your are seeing when you rest it crown up.

[Calatrava r]

Your watch is just meant to wear and enjoy. Too much delving and checking into the timekeeping can be a distraction and frustrating over time. While modern watches including Rolex are very accurate, they are all designed to be just worn. Some watch companies may miss the point of watch wearing, in my view, if they over advertise and obsess over the accuracy of their watches.

[samuel019]

Congrats on your new Sub

Assuming its the 12 series there are tons on threads here on Trf about the issues with the 32xx movements. I have two. A 126610 and 124060

I have been wearing my 126610 for 6 days straight and mine is slow by 10 seconds. And I leave it dial up every night. Being Rolex states -2 + 2 I'm fine with it.

I wouldnt worry so much about time keeping issue's unless you get out of spec.

[Subshark1861]

I'm not worried, but I'm thinking that it seems to run fast when worn during the day, then slower at night in the 9 o'clock up position. If I can get it to keep good time permanently just by its nighttime position, that's a good thing.

[ltmgeller]

Welcome and congrats!!!

[5iiood]

Congrats and welcome!

[RogerOP]

Live your life, enjoy the watch and if it’s causing major issues you have 5 years to fix it.

If you check the time and you’re a day late for an appointment then you have an issue! I only got a timegrapher when my 124300 stopped winding at all.

[007_Omega]

A modern Rolex shouldn't really deviate in different positions or very little. I wouldn't worry about this and just enjoy your watch. +6 in 11 days is phenomenal.

[creepy neville]

Originally Posted by Smobews

Automatic movements usually run the fastest when resting dial up or dial down (horizontal). They run slightly slower when in any of the vertical positions. This is due to the different friction that the little rod the balance wheel is connected to experiences between the two positions. when the watch is horizontal, the rod in vertical, and the main point of friction is in the very point of the rod rubbing against the jewel that holds it in place. Think of a pencil upright; just the tip is touching. When the watch is vertical, the rod is horizontal, and the friction is now on more surface area on the jewels that hold the rod from the sides. Think of a pencil resting on two legos near each end.

The only way you will know how your watch performs in each position is to rest it in a particular position each night and see how it keeps time over a week. Try resting it on the crown down at night. It may or may not run a bit slower over the course of the week. Most likely, if you rest it dial up, it will run faster than the 2 spd your are seeing when you rest it crown up.

Interesting ….

Thanks for that bit of info !

[al503]

Both my 32xx's accuracy is affected by the position they're left in when not worn. Dial up v. crown up/down, does make a difference.

[biza]

Congratulations

[AJMarcus]

Welcome to TRF and Congratulations! That’s not too bad actually. Wear it for awhile before jumping to conclusions. Never will be as accurate as your cell phone or a Gshock. Personally, I’d just wear it and forget it.