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dmb51599 · 29 July 2009, 04:30 PM

Is it just me or is anyone else not attracted to or does not see the appeal of the Sub? I'm not knocking it because it is a wonderful piece without a doubt. Please go easy on me.

Bimmernate · 29 July 2009, 04:32 PM

I don't get it.

barber · 29 July 2009, 04:39 PM

I'm not that into it either, but that doesn't mean I wont own one.

Watchdog · 29 July 2009, 05:03 PM

Wow! Tread lightly, neophyte.

Truth is the GMT is my favorite Rolex--by far--always has been and probably always will be. Sub isn't even in my top three.

However, the Sub is, IMHO, the most iconic watch of all time. It is the most imitated, replicated, duplicated, impersonated . . . oh, I could go on and on!

Ultimately, I would imagine, if you asked most people to choose the quintessential Rolex, they would pick the SS Sub (or even the TT Blue Sub). The Sub is the essence of what I--and many others--believe a Rolex should be.

In conclusion, the Rolex Submariner is, dare I say, the blueprint for the modern watch.

allanofcalifornia · 29 July 2009, 05:13 PM

Yes, it is you!!

This is why there are so many different Rolex models, to each their own but the sub is an icon for Rolex!

Allan

Art 1 · 29 July 2009, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmb51599

Is it just me or is anyone else not attracted to or does not see the appeal of the Sub? I'm not knocking it because it is a wonderful piece without a doubt. Please go easy on me.

The LV Sub is one of my favorite watches, I sold mine and have missed it since. I also have a 16613. But the 16610 is a watch I really don't care for and don't care to own.

Jimbits76 · 29 July 2009, 06:03 PM

Fair play. If everybody wanted the same thing, the world would be a boring place.

I don't really like the gmtc or the Turnograph so each to their own...

J

dmb51599 · 29 July 2009, 06:07 PM

I must say I'm trying to get on board due to the fact I'd like to have a watch I can "beat on" and know that it will be good to go the next day!

macstiltskin · 29 July 2009, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmb51599

Is it just me or is anyone else not attracted to or does not see the appeal of the Sub? I'm not knocking it because it is a wonderful piece without a doubt. Please go easy on me.

I have to agree with Jimbo, it's a personal taste thing. I don't see the appeal of your Daytona over a Speedmaster, but we all share different veiwpoints thankfully.

padi56 · 29 July 2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbits76

Fair play. If everybody wanted the same thing, the world would be a boring place.

I don't really like the gmtc or the Turnograph so each to their own...

J

Agree Jim myself not a fan of the modern Daytona, Milguass,DSSD, or any precious metal watch.

redcalx · 29 July 2009, 06:39 PM

I agree. I don't see the appeal of the sub. Perhaps at one time... but as it's been pointed out, it's the most replicated, duplicated, etc etc. It's also the Rolex that most people own.

When I bought my first Rolex, it was between the Sub and the GMT. I liked the sub because of it's subtleties, but I liked the GMT because I felt it was more unique. When the dealer suggest I get the sub because it's the watch that everyone goes for, and then even the security guard flashed his to prove it, I decided it had to be the GMT. I don't want a watch that everyone is wearing, real or fake.

In my opinion the GMT provides more daily usable features than the Sub, and upon a glance, is far more unique.

I'll take any flames as well, but I just don't get it. Never have.

michael69 · 29 July 2009, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmb51599

Is it just me or is anyone else not attracted to or does not see the appeal of the Sub? I'm not knocking it because it is a wonderful piece without a doubt. Please go easy on me.

I agree with you personally (absolutely great watch but I've never been drawn to it, or any other in the professional line)

It's all very personal isn't it?

It would be boring if everyone yearned for the same watches!

For me, I've always been drawn to the DJ and DD watches only (no diamonds though!)

DaveInLA · 29 July 2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by redcalx

In my opinion the GMT provides more daily usable features than the Sub...

I disagree with this statement.

I do understand the appeal of the GMT (I'd get one if I didn't already have the Sub), but I definitely think the Sub has more usable daily features than the GMT does. A timing bezel is very useful. I use it quite often, not just on the Sub, but on other dive watches I have. A 2nd/3rd time zone is useful when you travel or if you're keeping track of someone across the world. Definitely not something I (or most people) use daily.

I do agree that the GMT Master is more unique, though.

rajurama · 29 July 2009, 07:22 PM

My issue with the classic sub was the hollow bracelet and the clasp which will be taken care of now! so once the SS with ceramic sub is out... its on my wrist!

Brushpup · 29 July 2009, 08:36 PM

Well we all have opinions and I am very glad to see I'm not alone in my lack of enthusiasm for the GMTc. In fact, I don't really like any of the newer "supercase" watches that much at all. I truly believe they destroyed the graceful lines that to me are Rolex.

I do understand the appeal of the SUB however. I love the look, and the watch for all it represents and I understand why others do too. But, I am still amazed at the scope of it's mass appeal. It used to be the DJ that was most copied if I'm not mistaken, but I would defer to collectors on this one. In any event I don't have any problem with someone voicing their tastes here, popular or not......isn't that the true spirit of what a forum should be? I do, but it's just ones man's opinion. All that said, you will certainly be in the minority around here and in the collecting world in general regardings Subs, but so what.

Enjoy the forum and keep posting.....

Patrick

R1@160@alltimes · 29 July 2009, 08:44 PM

Submariner is my all time favorite Rolex

mcjp6 · 29 July 2009, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by redcalx

It's also the Rolex that most people own.

Not trying to flame you but I think that would be the Datejust, not the sub.

TheVTCGuy · 29 July 2009, 08:59 PM

Andad · 29 July 2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

WatchSmith · 29 July 2009, 09:24 PM

I do recognize that the sub is the most iconic Rolex and I respect that, but it simply doesn't appeal to me as much as the GMT's. Of course it's a great Rolex and probably the most popular watch in the world. I can't think of anything not to like about it, but it just doesn't wow me.

beshannon · 29 July 2009, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmb51599

Is it just me or is anyone else not attracted to or does not see the appeal of the Sub? I'm not knocking it because it is a wonderful piece without a doubt. Please go easy on me.

And I will likely be shot for this, I have tried to sell my Sub so that I can buy a GMT IIc and cannot bring myself to do it.

johnnybazookajoe · 29 July 2009, 09:36 PM

I'm a sub lover, the GMT is "OK" and I may consider owning one, but for me I can't get on the Daytona boat. The dial has alot of action on it, and I refuse to beleive that 10% percent of Daytona owners actually use any of the Daytona dials. I can see its beauty and history, and may consider owning one of these too, but perhaps its more hype than watch?...

Solid thread, its nice that people can disagree without problems. TRF has some great people.

frank gama · 29 July 2009, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcjp6

Not trying to flame you but I think that would be the Datejust, not the sub.

X 2

jamesb · 29 July 2009, 10:21 PM

I'm also not a fan of the GMT when really as a big sub fan you would think I would like it. It's just the numbering on the dial that doesn't quite do it for me. Milgauss also has no effect on me.

I wonder if we will see a corrolation of those who like X also like X and dislike X...probably.

Prince · 29 July 2009, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redcalx

...It's also the Rolex that most people own...

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcjp6

Not trying to flame you but I think that would be the Datejust, not the sub.

Quote:

Originally Posted by frank gama

X 2

Absolutely correct. NOTHING surpasses the DJ as the most owned Rolex watch.

Clay · 29 July 2009, 11:00 PM

I feel the same way about the Daytona.....

rolexgiants · 29 July 2009, 11:05 PM

i agree.... a lot of people view a sub like they would a casio....

landroverking · 30 July 2009, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolexgiants

i agree.... a lot of people view a sub like they would a casio....

Really? I like the Sub, but never pick it over a GMT or a Sea Dweller.

I have had two TT Blues and one 18Kt Blue. I would buy the new Blue Dial in white gold if and only if I won the lottery.
I do plan to pick up another 18Kt Blue from the early 90's within the next year.

Rockrolex · 30 July 2009, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingkongkelley

Wow! Tread lightly, neophyte.

Truth is the GMT is my favorite Rolex--by far--always has been and probably always will be. Sub isn't even in my top three.

However, the Sub is, IMHO, the most iconic watch of all time. It is the most imitated, replicated, duplicated, impersonated . . . oh, I could go on and on!

Ultimately, I would imagine, if you asked most people to choose the quintessential Rolex, they would pick the SS Sub (or even the TT Blue Sub). The Sub is the essence of what I--and many others--believe a Rolex should be.

In conclusion, the Rolex Submariner is, dare I say, the blueprint for the modern watch.

X2., esp. about the GMT-II.

kcmo · 30 July 2009, 12:33 AM

I am a HUGE Sub fan, and also like the GMTs (old style). Again, different strokes for different folks.

Thankfully we all have different taste!

29 July 2009, 04:30 PM	#1
dmb51599 Member Join Date: May 2006 Real Name: Justin Location: Miami Watch: Daytona 16520 Posts: 46	I know I'm going to hunted down and shot for saying this but.... Is it just me or is anyone else not attracted to or does not see the appeal of the Sub? I'm not knocking it because it is a wonderful piece without a doubt. Please go easy on me.

29 July 2009, 08:36 PM	#15
Brushpup "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Patrick Location: Texas Watch: what I'm wearing Posts: 5,943	Well we all have opinions and I am very glad to see I'm not alone in my lack of enthusiasm for the GMTc. In fact, I don't really like any of the newer "supercase" watches that much at all. I truly believe they destroyed the graceful lines that to me are Rolex. I do understand the appeal of the SUB however. I love the look, and the watch for all it represents and I understand why others do too. But, I am still amazed at the scope of it's mass appeal. It used to be the DJ that was most copied if I'm not mistaken, but I would defer to collectors on this one. In any event I don't have any problem with someone voicing their tastes here, popular or not......isn't that the true spirit of what a forum should be? I do, but it's just ones man's opinion. All that said, you will certainly be in the minority around here and in the collecting world in general regardings Subs, but so what. Enjoy the forum and keep posting..... Patrick __________________ *TRFs "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Patron-Founding Member* PClub # 10 74,592 The safest place for your watch is on your wrist.

29 July 2009, 08:44 PM	#16
R1@160@alltimes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA Watch: ♛ Posts: 4,408	Submariner is my all time favorite Rolex __________________

29 July 2009, 09:36 PM	#22
johnnybazookajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Belvidere, IL Watch: SS Sub Posts: 242	I'm a sub lover, the GMT is "OK" and I may consider owning one, but for me I can't get on the Daytona boat. The dial has alot of action on it, and I refuse to beleive that 10% percent of Daytona owners actually use any of the Daytona dials. I can see its beauty and history, and may consider owning one of these too, but perhaps its more hype than watch?... Solid thread, its nice that people can disagree without problems. TRF has some great people. __________________ Sub-Date 16610 "M"

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29 July 2009, 04:32 PM	#2
Bimmernate Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Nate Location: USA Watch: 14060M Posts: 273	I don't get it.

29 July 2009, 04:39 PM	#3
barber Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Mike Location: reno Watch: TT DJ Posts: 84	I'm not that into it either, but that doesn't mean I wont own one.

29 July 2009, 05:03 PM	#4
Watchdog "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Junkyard Dog Location: The Doghouse Watch: I can't tell time Posts: 6,822	Wow! Tread lightly, neophyte. Truth is the GMT is my favorite Rolex--by far--always has been and probably always will be. Sub isn't even in my top three. However, the Sub is, IMHO, the most iconic watch of all time. It is the most imitated, replicated, duplicated, impersonated . . . oh, I could go on and on! Ultimately, I would imagine, if you asked most people to choose the quintessential Rolex, they would pick the SS Sub (or even the TT Blue Sub). The Sub is the essence of what I--and many others--believe a Rolex should be. In conclusion, the Rolex Submariner is, dare I say, the blueprint for the modern watch.

29 July 2009, 05:13 PM	#5
allanofcalifornia "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Allan Location: California Posts: 3,210	Yes, it is you!! This is why there are so many different Rolex models, to each their own but the sub is an icon for Rolex! Allan

29 July 2009, 06:03 PM	#7
Jimbits76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK Posts: 9,407	Fair play. If everybody wanted the same thing, the world would be a boring place. I don't really like the gmtc or the Turnograph so each to their own... J

29 July 2009, 06:07 PM	#8
dmb51599 Member Join Date: May 2006 Real Name: Justin Location: Miami Watch: Daytona 16520 Posts: 46	I must say I'm trying to get on board due to the fact I'd like to have a watch I can "beat on" and know that it will be good to go the next day!

29 July 2009, 06:39 PM	#11
redcalx "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Amsterdam Watch: GMTIIc/SS Daytona Posts: 171	I agree. I don't see the appeal of the sub. Perhaps at one time... but as it's been pointed out, it's the most replicated, duplicated, etc etc. It's also the Rolex that most people own. When I bought my first Rolex, it was between the Sub and the GMT. I liked the sub because of it's subtleties, but I liked the GMT because I felt it was more unique. When the dealer suggest I get the sub because it's the watch that everyone goes for, and then even the security guard flashed his to prove it, I decided it had to be the GMT. I don't want a watch that everyone is wearing, real or fake. In my opinion the GMT provides more daily usable features than the Sub, and upon a glance, is far more unique. I'll take any flames as well, but I just don't get it. Never have.

29 July 2009, 07:22 PM	#14
rajurama "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Rick Location: Wakanda Watch: amacallit Posts: 2,090	My issue with the classic sub was the hollow bracelet and the clasp which will be taken care of now! so once the SS with ceramic sub is out... its on my wrist!

29 July 2009, 08:59 PM	#18
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29 July 2009, 09:24 PM	#20
WatchSmith 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Posts: 702	I do recognize that the sub is the most iconic Rolex and I respect that, but it simply doesn't appeal to me as much as the GMT's. Of course it's a great Rolex and probably the most popular watch in the world. I can't think of anything not to like about it, but it just doesn't wow me.

29 July 2009, 10:21 PM	#24
jamesb Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: London Watch: Bi Metal Blue Sub Posts: 111	I'm also not a fan of the GMT when really as a big sub fan you would think I would like it. It's just the numbering on the dial that doesn't quite do it for me. Milgauss also has no effect on me. I wonder if we will see a corrolation of those who like X also like X and dislike X...probably.

29 July 2009, 11:00 PM	#26
Clay Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Up a tree Posts: 4,001	I feel the same way about the Daytona.....

29 July 2009, 11:05 PM	#27
rolexgiants "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: new york, usa Posts: 2,903	i agree.... a lot of people view a sub like they would a casio....

30 July 2009, 12:33 AM	#30
kcmo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Karis Location: USA Posts: 19,377	I am a HUGE Sub fan, and also like the GMTs (old style). Again, different strokes for different folks. Thankfully we all have different taste!

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