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Beaumont Miller II · 30 July 2009, 10:56 AM

Here is a question that I have never seen on this forum. What would you do if you saw a post by either a newbie or a veteran poster that had a picture of his /her new purchase, and it was an incorrect watch...meaning totally fake or had a fake dial or band? Would you be the bearer of the bad news, complement them on their new purchase, or say nothing and move on?

Idle Swede · 30 July 2009, 10:58 AM

Timid as I am I'd probably move on.....

DRAWTOOL · 30 July 2009, 11:13 AM

He would be advised in a heartbeat, if I were sure. Otherwise I'd let someone else do it and then I'd pile on!

allanofcalifornia · 30 July 2009, 11:14 AM

I would very gracefully raise the subject because that person should know and maybe he might be able to get his money back.

Allan

ijen0311 · 30 July 2009, 11:14 AM

That happened a little while ago... although the OP probably knew it was fake to begin with.

Alan111 · 30 July 2009, 12:32 PM

They get banned.

Art 1 · 30 July 2009, 12:36 PM

I would say nothing.

Andad · 30 July 2009, 06:01 PM

Hi Beaumont.

Are you posting some pix?

fishrising · 30 July 2009, 08:20 PM

If it's one of my pics, I would want to know...

SWFLA1 · 30 July 2009, 10:20 PM

I think I'd let them know in a pm, instead of publicly - just to save them some embarassment.

Dan Pierce · 30 July 2009, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allanofcalifornia

I would very gracefully raise the subject because that person should know and maybe he might be able to get his money back.

Allan

Then we can all learn a valuable lesson.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWFLA1

I think I'd let them know in a pm, instead of publicly - just to save them some embarassment.

Probably the best way to start the conversation.

dP

Tools · 30 July 2009, 11:37 PM

Depends on how they are representing it..........

It happens quite frequently..........

allanofcalifornia · 31 July 2009, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishrising

If it's one of my pics, I would want to know...

x2!

Allan

AWATCH · 31 July 2009, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWFLA1

I think I'd let them know in a pm, instead of publicly - just to save them some embarassment.

I think this would be the proper way to handle the situation, If i were the person with the watch i would want to know.

Beaumont Miller II · 31 July 2009, 12:27 AM

The reason I brought up the question is in addition to the outright fakes seen in auctions, there are an increasing number of watches that are put together from pieces that are bought separately. Relumed dials, non original but authentic dials, toned hands, service cases, aftermarket bezels, even to the extent of incorrect paper work... basically parts of authentic and non authentic rolex parts from different eras put together to make a watch. Recently I have seen a 1665 DRSD with a fake dial and a case back from the wrong era given that the serial number was a 3.7 mil. Another example, it would be very easy for an unsuspecting buyer to buy a late model 16800 Submariner with an authentic but incorrect flat matte dial with tritium markers. No one would be the wiser unless the serial number of the watch was made known. I recently considered buying a 1655 Exp II but the paper work was for a non chronometer movement. I am curious to know whether you all would let the new owner know that while his new watch is authentic it may be incorrect and tell him why.

Ed Rooney · 31 July 2009, 01:35 AM

It just happened recently. We let him know it was bogus, then he said he can have someone get him a real one anytime he wants (so there).

cody p · 31 July 2009, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Rooney

It just happened recently. We let him know it was bogus, then he said he can have someone get him a real one anytime he wants (so there).

mmm, seems i missed that little bit of entertainment, anyone care to provide a link?

30 July 2009, 10:56 AM	#1
Beaumont Miller II "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,615	What would you do? Here is a question that I have never seen on this forum. What would you do if you saw a post by either a newbie or a veteran poster that had a picture of his /her new purchase, and it was an incorrect watch...meaning totally fake or had a fake dial or band? Would you be the bearer of the bad news, complement them on their new purchase, or say nothing and move on?

30 July 2009, 06:01 PM	#8
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,534	Hi Beaumont. Are you posting some pix? __________________ E

30 July 2009, 08:20 PM	#9
fishrising "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ben Location: New England, USA Watch: Sub, Pam164, PO-XL Posts: 383	If it's one of my pics, I would want to know... __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

30 July 2009, 11:37 PM	#12
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,515	Depends on how they are representing it.......... It happens quite frequently.......... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

31 July 2009, 12:27 AM	#15
Beaumont Miller II "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,615	What would you do? The reason I brought up the question is in addition to the outright fakes seen in auctions, there are an increasing number of watches that are put together from pieces that are bought separately. Relumed dials, non original but authentic dials, toned hands, service cases, aftermarket bezels, even to the extent of incorrect paper work... basically parts of authentic and non authentic rolex parts from different eras put together to make a watch. Recently I have seen a 1665 DRSD with a fake dial and a case back from the wrong era given that the serial number was a 3.7 mil. Another example, it would be very easy for an unsuspecting buyer to buy a late model 16800 Submariner with an authentic but incorrect flat matte dial with tritium markers. No one would be the wiser unless the serial number of the watch was made known. I recently considered buying a 1655 Exp II but the paper work was for a non chronometer movement. I am curious to know whether you all would let the new owner know that while his new watch is authentic it may be incorrect and tell him why.

30 July 2009, 10:58 AM	#2
Idle Swede Suspended Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Leo Location: Boca Raton Posts: 13,820	Timid as I am I'd probably move on.....

30 July 2009, 11:13 AM	#3
DRAWTOOL "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Mikey Uí Néill Location: Olden Texas Watch: 14060M & 16570 Posts: 1,941	He would be advised in a heartbeat, if I were sure. Otherwise I'd let someone else do it and then I'd pile on!

30 July 2009, 11:14 AM	#4
allanofcalifornia "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Allan Location: California Posts: 3,210	I would very gracefully raise the subject because that person should know and maybe he might be able to get his money back. Allan

30 July 2009, 11:14 AM	#5
ijen0311 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jen Location: Jax, FL Watch: Sea-Dweller Posts: 3,977	That happened a little while ago... although the OP probably knew it was fake to begin with.

30 July 2009, 12:32 PM	#6
Alan111 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 1,605	They get banned.

30 July 2009, 12:36 PM	#7
Art 1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida, Canada Watch: Rol/Seik/Tud/Omega Posts: 30,244	I would say nothing.

30 July 2009, 10:20 PM	#10
SWFLA1 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Posts: 226	I think I'd let them know in a pm, instead of publicly - just to save them some embarassment.

31 July 2009, 01:35 AM	#16
Ed Rooney "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Annapolis, MD Watch: Sea-Dweller 16600 Posts: 5,081	It just happened recently. We let him know it was bogus, then he said he can have someone get him a real one anytime he wants (so there).

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