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briboxer · 30 July 2014, 12:13 AM

S550 inquired about my BNIB 116613 on Sunday. Willing to pay paypal fees and send own fedex label.
Sent paypal to my account using name "[email protected]". Shipping to Saral Kumar in NY. [email protected].
Claims to use name "samk100" on TZ.
Checked with reference of one our members who somewhat recognized him.
Later Sunday night requested a refund to paypal account, and asked for my bank wire information. Sent right away and did refund.
Claimed to have sent wire Monday at 8:05 am, his time. No wire Monday, and communication stopped.
Maybe I am over reacting, but too much information exchanged to allow it to go unmentioned.
Anyone out there that can shed some light on this?

alexthegreat123 · 30 July 2014, 12:32 AM

Sounds very suspicious. I'd NEVER accept Paypal and use buyer's Fedex account...

TAKUYA · 30 July 2014, 12:36 AM

Yes he's done that so many times. First, he gives low ball offers and keep coming back with better offers. Then he accepts the deal, asks the bank wire info from sellers and gives his Fedex account numbers to tell them to use it…. But end up he disappears…….

His info:
Saral Kumar
43-25 Douglaston Parkway
Apt 3C
Douglaston,NY,11363

His previous banned ids here:

"samkumar" & "nishantJ" and his contact numbers: (516)468-8422

His fedex account #1803-2499-2

P.s Glad you did not mail the watch out first when you just received his Paypal payment….

Chelseafan · 30 July 2014, 09:10 AM

NEVER USE A BUYER FED EX LABEL. Ever.

kooltzar · 30 July 2014, 10:45 AM

Did you send the watch?

kooltzar · 30 July 2014, 10:47 AM

And when he paid through paypal paying the fees, why did you refund?

Am I missing something of the logic here?

briboxer · 30 July 2014, 02:44 PM

I did not send the watch, and only refunded the paypal payment, as he decided to save the fees and wire Monday morning. Of course no wire came, and he disappeared.

Rogdogg · 30 July 2014, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by briboxer

I did not send the watch, and only refunded the paypal payment, as he decided to save the fees and wire Monday morning. Of course no wire came, and he disappeared.

Forget about him and move on. I wouldn't have any more dealings with him if I was you. It's not worth the risk.

MX727 · 30 July 2014, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chelseafan

NEVER USE A BUYER FED EX LABEL. Ever.

Why not? As a buyer, I'd rather use my FedEx account and have you ship it from me, to me so that I can handle the insure issues if they arise. Now, I understand that FedEx doesn't insure watches, but the process works for other items. Otherwise, as a buyer, FedEx (UPS, USPS, etc.) won't talk to you.

mfnj · 30 July 2014, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chelseafan

NEVER USE A BUYER FED EX LABEL. Ever.

Never and Ever are strong words! There are always exceptions. I frequently send UPS labels (with a parcel pro insurance wrap) to sellers when I make a purchase using my account with parcel pro/ups. Your point is valid if the buyer is otherwise "questionable".

Chelseafan · 3 August 2014, 09:36 AM

[QUOTE=mfnj;5139224]Never and Ever are strong words! There are always exceptions. I frequently send UPS labels (with a parcel pro insurance wrap) to sellers when I make a purchase using my account with parcel pro/ups. Your point is valid if the buyer is otherwise "

Do so at your own risk. You have no idea about the account or the address. Up to you.

Chelseafan · 3 August 2014, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MX727

Why not? As a buyer, I'd rather use my FedEx account and have you ship it from me, to me so that I can handle the insure issues if they arise. Now, I understand that FedEx doesn't insure watches, but the process works for other items. Otherwise, as a buyer, FedEx (UPS, USPS, etc.) won't talk to you.

Insurance obligation is that it is delivered to the address on the label. Thats it. Whoever signs for it is irrelevant. Once delivered the cover is dropped.

MX727 · 5 August 2014, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chelseafan

Insurance obligation is that it is delivered to the address on the label. Thats it. Whoever signs for it is irrelevant. Once delivered the cover is dropped.

Correct. However, only the sender can file a claim. The shipping company does not have a contract with the receiver.

Danex · 9 August 2014, 11:51 AM

The first watch I purchased was delivered to the wrong address, to my neighbor down the street. He signed for it. He and the driver were none the wiser it was the wrong address. Lucky for me the mistake was corrected by honest neighbor. In this case then, the insurance would be useless, because someone signed for it? FedEx is notorious for bring packages to the wrong address. I've had two other instances of misdeliveries that required searching the neighborhood.

Tal1 · 14 December 2016, 04:19 AM

My luck, he contacted me also on another watch forum where I have a watch for sale. Same actions, asked plenty of questions, references, etc .
He wanted payment by paypal, and after he will receive it , I will give him a refund and them he will make me a bank wire

Sounds clever.
Avoid him, you will lose your time.

LuminousMaximus · 14 December 2016, 05:28 AM

Glad u didn't loose anything. I have learned.

There's never a problem, until there's a problem...

Mosco · 19 April 2017, 10:26 PM

Bumping this to the top

southtexas · 2 July 2018, 12:35 AM

Sorry not sure how I found myself in this thread...it’s like the twilight zone!

racraigo · 25 September 2023, 09:26 PM

Thanh, I think it is great that you shared your experience about S550 to help seller. The watch world needs more honest people like you.

T3rmina1 · 26 September 2023, 10:30 AM

It's been 5 years since the last post, wtf is this necromancy?

30 July 2014, 12:32 AM	#2
alexthegreat123 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Alex Location: Cincinnati, OH Watch: GMT 16710 w/ 3186 Posts: 8,406	Sounds very suspicious. I'd NEVER accept Paypal and use buyer's Fedex account... __________________ GMT Master II 16710 w/3186 "M" Coke SeaDweller 16600 "M"

30 July 2014, 12:36 AM	#3
TAKUYA ⭐⭐⭐⭐2024 SubLV41 sponsor & Boutique Seller Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Thanh Takuya Location: Dont mess w Texas Watch: AP/Rolex/PP Posts: 52,976	Warning!!! Yes he's done that so many times. First, he gives low ball offers and keep coming back with better offers. Then he accepts the deal, asks the bank wire info from sellers and gives his Fedex account numbers to tell them to use it…. But end up he disappears……. His info: Saral Kumar 43-25 Douglaston Parkway Apt 3C Douglaston,NY,11363 His previous banned ids here: "samkumar" & "nishantJ" and his contact numbers: (516)468-8422 His fedex account #1803-2499-2 P.s Glad you did not mail the watch out first when you just received his Paypal payment…. __________________ 2 Factor Authentication Security Active Instagram @takuyawatches

9 August 2014, 11:51 AM	#14
Danex "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Dan O Location: Park City, UT Watch: Cosmograph Daytona Posts: 741	The first watch I purchased was delivered to the wrong address, to my neighbor down the street. He signed for it. He and the driver were none the wiser it was the wrong address. Lucky for me the mistake was corrected by honest neighbor. In this case then, the insurance would be useless, because someone signed for it? FedEx is notorious for bring packages to the wrong address. I've had two other instances of misdeliveries that required searching the neighborhood. __________________ -Dan, WIS In Training 116520 Cosmograph Daytona 116622 & 16622 Yacht-Master 114060 & 14060 Submariner

14 December 2016, 05:28 AM	#16
LuminousMaximus 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Watch: me hit Huge Lotto Posts: 6,512	Glad u didn't loose anything. I have learned. There's never a problem, until there's a problem... __________________ “Every man Dies... Not Every Man, Really Lives.” – William Wallace - To really lives means to live your life to the fullest. It means to chase your dreams, take risks, and to love life. Since everyone’s fate is the same, why not live the best life that you possibly can? In order to really live,you must seize the day. Live each day as if it's your last and overall just do it! Today is a gift, that’s why it’s called the present...

19 April 2017, 10:26 PM	#17
Mosco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Greg Location: Cincinnati Watch: I like to... Posts: 18,567	Bumping this to the top __________________ Instagram - @CaliberSwiss *“A man who procrastinates in his choosing will inevitably have his choice made for him by circumstance.” - Hunter S. Thompson*

30 July 2014, 12:13 AM	#1
briboxer 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: SoCal Watch: forever changing Posts: 27,446	Anyone know S550? Suspicious actions S550 inquired about my BNIB 116613 on Sunday. Willing to pay paypal fees and send own fedex label. Sent paypal to my account using name "[email protected]". Shipping to Saral Kumar in NY. [email protected]. Claims to use name "samk100" on TZ. Checked with reference of one our members who somewhat recognized him. Later Sunday night requested a refund to paypal account, and asked for my bank wire information. Sent right away and did refund. Claimed to have sent wire Monday at 8:05 am, his time. No wire Monday, and communication stopped. Maybe I am over reacting, but too much information exchanged to allow it to go unmentioned. Anyone out there that can shed some light on this?

30 July 2014, 09:10 AM	#4
Chelseafan Banned Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: London Posts: 542	NEVER USE A BUYER FED EX LABEL. Ever.

30 July 2014, 10:45 AM	#5
kooltzar "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Zürich Watch: Submariner 5512 Posts: 922	Did you send the watch?

30 July 2014, 10:47 AM	#6
kooltzar "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Zürich Watch: Submariner 5512 Posts: 922	And when he paid through paypal paying the fees, why did you refund? Am I missing something of the logic here?

30 July 2014, 02:44 PM	#7
briboxer 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: SoCal Watch: forever changing Posts: 27,446	I did not send the watch, and only refunded the paypal payment, as he decided to save the fees and wire Monday morning. Of course no wire came, and he disappeared.

3 August 2014, 09:36 AM	#11
Chelseafan Banned Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: London Posts: 542	[QUOTE=mfnj;5139224]Never and Ever are strong words! There are always exceptions. I frequently send UPS labels (with a parcel pro insurance wrap) to sellers when I make a purchase using my account with parcel pro/ups. Your point is valid if the buyer is otherwise " Do so at your own risk. You have no idea about the account or the address. Up to you.

14 December 2016, 04:19 AM	#15
Tal1 Banned Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: B Posts: 23	My luck, he contacted me also on another watch forum where I have a watch for sale. Same actions, asked plenty of questions, references, etc . He wanted payment by paypal, and after he will receive it , I will give him a refund and them he will make me a bank wire Sounds clever. Avoid him, you will lose your time.

2 July 2018, 12:35 AM	#18
southtexas 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Great State of TX Posts: 5,763	Anyone know S550? Suspicious actions Sorry not sure how I found myself in this thread...it’s like the twilight zone! __________________ Forty six & 2 are just ahead of me. Follow me on Instagram @ccrolex

25 September 2023, 09:26 PM	#19
racraigo "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Joliet, IL Posts: 1	Thanh, I think it is great that you shared your experience about S550 to help seller. The watch world needs more honest people like you.

26 September 2023, 10:30 AM	#20
T3rmina1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2022 Location: The Wired Posts: 77	It's been 5 years since the last post, wtf is this necromancy?

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