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Old 8 October 2023, 10:48 PM   #1
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At what point do you worry about accuracy?

For a Rolex. Anything past 10sec day is annoying and I would get it serviced. Luckily all my Rolex watches are within 1 sec. Amazing. This is what truly impressed me about Rolex. The sheer accuracy. I don’t see how they do it making so many watches.


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Old 8 October 2023, 11:07 PM   #2
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Your very lucky to have a few that run 1 spd. Many do not. Based on actual experience.
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Old 8 October 2023, 11:15 PM   #3
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I rotate my watches every few days so I don’t really tend to notice “accuracy” as much as others do.

The longest I’ve ever worn a watch continuously is when we travel.

I only travel with one watch, the one I’m wearing.

In this case I haven’t noticed any of my watches keeping poor time. To me my measure of poor time in this example would be + or - a minute or two YMMV
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Old 8 October 2023, 11:21 PM   #4
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In well over 50 years of wearing and owning Rolex watches never been anal about the exact second or even 10 seconds either way. Thank god my long 79 year life was never ran to the exact second, far more important things to worry about that a few seconds out of 86400 in a day.
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Old 8 October 2023, 11:28 PM   #5
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I’ve never had anything over +/- 8sec

I think everything everything I own is <6 and most of it is <3

I only worry about inconsistency. Stability is key. Once that goes, it’s time for service especially if it’s overdue.
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Old 8 October 2023, 11:31 PM   #6
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Yeah I keep 3 on rotation in a winder. The rest stay unwound. That’s why I want a certain amount of accuracy. So I don’t have to reset it. I keep one AP in rotation and it is awful. +15 a day. I just sent it in for service. I had to reset it every few days. Annoys me.


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Old 8 October 2023, 11:34 PM   #7
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In well over 50 years of wearing and owning Rolex watches never been anal about the exact second or even 10 seconds either way. Thank god my long 79 year life was never ran to the exact second, far more important things to worry about that a few seconds out of 86400 in a day.

I don’t worry about 30sec either. But if it’s 3 or 5 min off I tend to reset the Watch. And I do. If I wear a watch once every week and it’s 3 min off whenever I pick it up I think it is justified to be annoyed. I suppose I can reset it. Ha ha.


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Old 8 October 2023, 11:55 PM   #8
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All my Rolexes maintain Superlative chronometer accuracy (±2 sec/day), but even if they went outside this range, it wouldn't be a big deal for me.
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Old 9 October 2023, 12:02 AM   #9
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I would be concerned if a watch was super accurate and then suddenly began losing time noticeably like 15 seconds a day
I’ve only had one Rolex do that, it was sent in and serviced to it’s original accuracy
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Old 9 October 2023, 12:03 AM   #10
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At what point do you worry about accuracy?

I expect my watches to work as advertised. With that said, I don’t really keep track of it.


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Old 9 October 2023, 12:07 AM   #11
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10 seconds off is a lot to me for any modern watch. That means a weekly reset. I would prefer a re-set every two weeks or more.
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Old 9 October 2023, 12:24 AM   #12
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For the most part I’m in the +6/-4 camp. It does somewhat depend on the specific watch. My demands for my DayDate are different for that of my SKX.
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Old 9 October 2023, 12:31 AM   #13
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+- 8-10 seconds/day is the trigger for me if still under warranty. In fact, I'm taking my Navitimer in this week as after being near perfect (less than a second/day fast) it has all of a sudden gone to 10 sec/day slow. Still under warranty so taking it in.
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Old 9 October 2023, 12:40 AM   #14
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I don’t understand question. Do you think one’s opinion about watch accuracy depends on brand?

Mine not. In fact Rolex was least accurate watch i had. Inside COSC, but still, some if not most of my non chronometer watches outperformed Rolex.

So, basically i don’t like watch to be more than 30s off and i don’t like to reset every week, so my expectations are less than 2spd. Unless it’s rarely worn.
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Old 9 October 2023, 12:43 AM   #15
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COSC is where I land. -4 to +6 a day. Closer to +3 to -2 is where I prefer to be ideally.
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Old 9 October 2023, 02:07 AM   #16
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Getting +2.3/day now. If that doubled, I'd get it looked at. Quality matters.
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Old 9 October 2023, 02:24 AM   #17
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I don’t understand question. Do you think one’s opinion about watch accuracy depends on brand?
In the real world, yes. Rolex is bigger today as a signal than it is as a tool. That was always gonna happen, because watches have been replaced as tools for most of the functions they once performed.

There are Rolex owners who just strap that puppy on their wrist and go about their day (That's a direct quote from the 32xx thread, but I won't go looking for it again) so gleeful about having Rolexes that they may or may not care if they're accurate or even set properly.

My guess is OP knows/feels that doesn't happen so much with some other brands.

EDIT: Plus, this is a Rolex forum. It wouldn't make much sense to ask about brands in general here- you'd get a better response on a site dedicated to all brands.
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Old 9 October 2023, 02:25 AM   #18
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+/- a minute a day or so. Basically if it’s very noticeable.
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Old 9 October 2023, 03:07 AM   #19
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It depends. Buy a timegrapher. They are relatively inexpensive. If you have multiple watches it will save you a bundle on service, as you will have a better idea when they need service than just guessing by age. If you are timing it by your phone or to a reference time, I just don’t know how you are getting accurate numbers.

Most of my watches run a bit fast. I check them in several positions and note the average. Most of my recently serviced watches or newer watches run less than 5 seconds fast. Some vintage watches and some non-COSC a watches I own run ~15 seconds fast.
I have a speedmaster that was serviced 4 years ago that is running about 30 seconds fast, but the amplitude is still great (280). I will likely send this one to be regulated, but it doesn’t need a full service.

None of these variations worry me. Heck even if the watch is running a minute fast I still wear it. It’s just getting time for regulation or service if the amplitude is also low.

I think sending a watch for regulation that is running just outside of COSC specs is overkill, but you need to do whatever makes you happy.


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Old 9 October 2023, 03:18 AM   #20
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I currently have 2 12 series watches with 32xx movements - and they are about 1/2 sec per day (1 runs fast, other slow). The 5 digit sus are in the +/- range of 6 - 10 sec / day. The daytonas (116520 & 116523) run +/- 4- 6 secs per day last i checked. It's got to get to maybe 15 sec per day for me to consider sending it in.
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Old 9 October 2023, 03:20 AM   #21
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My Submariner was regulated to run slightly fast (the way I like it) after its last service in 2019. I´ll only re-set the time if I happen to notice it's off by a minute or two. Personally I'm not bothered about to-the-second accuracy while wearing a mechanical watch...for that I have an iPhone, a G-Shock and a radio-controlled desktop clock, if needs be. Thankfully my life doesn't revolve around seconds!
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Old 9 October 2023, 03:46 AM   #22
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Accuracy isn’t something that worries me especially if it’s only a few seconds
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Old 9 October 2023, 04:03 AM   #23
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Cant say I bother. If it's a few mins out I set the time again. No big deal. It's not a Casio.
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Old 9 October 2023, 04:15 AM   #24
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my watches are on rotation so many times when i pick it up i need to set the time. so unless its like +/- 3 minutes a day i'm not too concerned
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Only if the amplitude (dial up) falls below 275 degrees or so.
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At what point do you worry about accuracy?

I would say if I was consistently seeing anything greater than 2 to 3 seconds out of spec per day then I’d be concerned. Could be an indicator of several things and time to have it checked out.


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I rotate my watches every few days so I don’t really tend to notice “accuracy” as much as others do.

The longest I’ve ever worn a watch continuously is when we travel.

I only travel with one watch, the one I’m wearing.

In this case I haven’t noticed any of my watches keeping poor time. To me my measure of poor time in this example would be + or - a minute or two YMMV
This.

I will add consistency is more important to me than + or - per day.
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Old 9 October 2023, 07:20 AM   #28
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I value accuracy as the most highly prized atribute of a timepiece and it's something I have always sought.
If it's within the COSC framework then I can be satisfied as long as it's consistent.
When consistency falls away or accuracy falls outside the COSC framework then I send them in for a service if it's a COSC watch.
For non COSC watches, as long as they're within the manufacturers tolerance and are still consistent then I don't have any concerns. Once the watch falls outside the specs then I will take action.

At the end of the day I will seek out better accuracy where ever it's possible, but I don't worry about it.
An accurate timepiece that maintains its accuracy is always something to behold especially if I've paid good money for it
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Old 9 October 2023, 07:28 AM   #29
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It depends. Buy a timegrapher. They are relatively inexpensive. If you have multiple watches it will save you a bundle on service, as you will have a better idea when they need service than just guessing by age. If you are timing it by your phone or to a reference time, I just don’t know how you are getting accurate numbers.

Most of my watches run a bit fast. I check them in several positions and note the average. Most of my recently serviced watches or newer watches run less than 5 seconds fast. Some vintage watches and some non-COSC a watches I own run ~15 seconds fast.
I have a speedmaster that was serviced 4 years ago that is running about 30 seconds fast, but the amplitude is still great (280). I will likely send this one to be regulated, but it doesn’t need a full service.

None of these variations worry me. Heck even if the watch is running a minute fast I still wear it. It’s just getting time for regulation or service if the amplitude is also low.

I think sending a watch for regulation that is running just outside of COSC specs is overkill, but you need to do whatever makes you happy.


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All of my watches are kept on a winder. I reset the time on the watches whenever there are only 30 days in a month and I need to advance the date anyway. Then in about 30 days I check how fast/slow the watches are vs. when I set them. This gives me a pretty accurate gauge as to their accuracy over the course of 30 days. My worst watch (out of 11) is about +3 seconds/day. Most are around +- 1 sec/day. Within the past week I noticed that my Navitimer is all of a sudden running around 10 sec/day slow when it was running less than a second/day fast. Since it is still under warranty I am sending it in to have it looked at. If it wasn't still under warranty I most likely wouldn't send it in.
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I don’t understand question. Do you think one’s opinion about watch accuracy depends on brand?

Mine not. In fact Rolex was least accurate watch i had. Inside COSC, but still, some if not most of my non chronometer watches outperformed Rolex.

So, basically i don’t like watch to be more than 30s off and i don’t like to reset every week, so my expectations are less than 2spd. Unless it’s rarely worn.

Yeah I’m talking Rolex specifically. I’ve recently gotten into AP. The time accuracy is horrible. I’ve gotten used to Rolex performance.


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