At what point do you worry about accuracy?

[Gab27]

I expect it to perform as-advertised or close to as-advertised, with the understanding that there can be some deviation in performance based on individual usage conditions. In the case of Rolex, their testing methodology for +2/-2 is designed to simulate real world wear, and so I think it is reasonable to expect the watch to perform somewhere close to this, or at least within COSC tolerance specs. My watch does this and has done it for the last 2.5 years of daily wear and so I am quite happy with it.

I don't think it is unreasonable to expect something to come relatively close to meeting its advertised specifications.

[codecow]

Originally Posted by rcwatchcollector

For a Rolex. Anything past 10sec day is annoying and I would get it serviced. Luckily all my Rolex watches are within 1 sec. Amazing. This is what truly impressed me about Rolex. The sheer accuracy. I don’t see how they do it making so many watches.


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If you like that and you think it’s really impressive you’re missing out.

https://www.citizenwatch-global.com/...100/index.html

[Garry1]

I'm not overly concerned about accuracy because I rotate my watches, but hence it works +/- a minute a day that's fine by me.

[Kevin of Larchmont]

I’ve never reached a point where I’ve had to worry about accuracy. I have a few winders and watches in active rotation spend some time on those but probably no more than a few weeks at a time, except for my 226570 which I’ve pledged to keep running indefinitely specifically to see if it presents with any symptoms. Everything else gets set when it comes out of the box and stops when it goes back in the box. I check accuracy against a time app every few days while wearing and have never observed any uncharacteristic variations on any watch (except for one ETA driven Panerai, fixed with a service). After twenty-four years of Rolex ownership and eight years of active acquisition everything’s good so far.

[Old Expat Beast]

I don't worry too much, but the fact that my Ranger and Black Bay are both still keeping near-perfect time after around a decade of wear does impress me, especially as both contain ETA movements that have never been serviced, and neither was chronometer rated. I wouldn't expect this from a Rolex 32xx.

Timegrapher pics, etc: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=916455

[geoach]

rolex hammers the fact they're watches are accurate.....so they should be......if I buy a car that boost they it will go 0 to 60 in 4 sec it should.... will I test it no.. do I need to in the real world no..do I need a watch that keeps 2 sec accuracy in the real world no..BUT it should if the manufacture says it will.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by geoach

rolex hammers the fact they're watches are accurate.....so they should be......if I buy a car that boost they it will go 0 to 60 in 4 sec it should.... will I test it no.. do I need to in the real world no..do I need a watch that keeps 2 sec accuracy in the real world no..BUT it should if the manufacture says it will.

Well for any purely mechanical watch to run to or better than the Swiss COSC spec is a mechanical marvel.And when they test on machine's to certain spec and at time of testing met the spec.But on the wrist there are many variables like owners wearing habits mainspring power reserve plus many others.So what does this mean well daily there could be slight variations,and no purely mechanical watch will keep 100% perfect time close yes but perfect no out of 86400 seconds in a day.

[77T]

10 seconds per day is one minute per work week - what’s not to like?

It’s nice to prop accuracy but it’s a two-edged sword as the opinions here reflect.


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[padi56]

Originally Posted by 77T

10 seconds per day is one minute per work week - what’s not to like?

It’s nice to prop accuracy but it’s a two-edged sword as the opinions here reflect.


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Wow and double wow a whole minute fast or slow over the working week expect the world would come to a end for some.

[rcwatchcollector]

Originally Posted by padi56

Wow and double wow a whole minute fast or slow over the working week expect the world would come to a end for some.

For myself if it’s a minute fast it really annoys me. I have very mild ocd imo (never diagnosed) and it will just sit in the back of my mind and distract me all day. I actually don’t think I would be able to not reset the Watch. Sort of weird. But this sort of behavior has allowed me a lot of success in my life so I see it as a blessing.


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[Krash]

Originally Posted by rcwatchcollector

For myself if it’s a minute fast it really annoys me. I have very mild ocd imo (never diagnosed) and it will just sit in the back of my mind and distract me all day. I actually don’t think I would be able to not reset the Watch. Sort of weird. But this sort of behavior has allowed me a lot of success in my life so I see it as a blessing.


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That comment hits home for me. I believe I would never have been as good a computer programmer without my underlying OCD condition. (i.e., things must be in proper order and in place). Ultimately, that led to managerial and executive level positions. No doubt the details matter in your career.

When it comes to my watches, I just expect them to work as advertised. As long as they’re performing to that level, then I’m fine.


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[Kevin of Larchmont]

Originally Posted by rcwatchcollector

For myself if it’s a minute fast it really annoys me. I have very mild ocd imo (never diagnosed) and it will just sit in the back of my mind and distract me all day. I actually don’t think I would be able to not reset the Watch. Sort of weird. But this sort of behavior has allowed me a lot of success in my life so I see it as a blessing.


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You know, preferring the details of your life to be in order is not OCD. Enjoying the time on your watch being correct is not OCD. Losing jobs and crashing relationships because you are obsessed with those details is OCD and there is no mild case of an obsession that becomes compulsion to the point that it disorders your life. An OCD diagnosis isn’t a fashion accessory to describe normal organized human behavior, it’s an anchor. It’s a diagnosis you don’t want.

[rcwatchcollector]

Originally Posted by Kevin of Larchmont

You know, preferring the details of your life to be in order is not OCD. Enjoying the time on your watch being correct is not OCD. Losing jobs and crashing relationships because you are obsessed with those details is OCD and there is no mild case of an obsession that becomes compulsion to the point that it disorders your life. An OCD diagnosis isn’t a fashion accessory to describe normal organized human behavior, it’s an anchor. It’s a diagnosis you don’t want.

Of course not. Maybe easily addictive personality? Im not sure. I had many rituals and compulsions as a kid that on the surface seems like it to me. I’m not nearly as bad now.


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[BraveBold]

For the $ spent for a MODERN Rolex, it makes sense to expect they conform to the advertised standards.

When using a modern watch you shouldn’t feel the need to pull out a phone to confirm the time.

A vintage piece, different standards. Also, for those who talk about using their watches as intended, helping you be “on-time” seems a core use for a watch.

[77T]

Originally Posted by BraveBold

For the $ spent for a MODERN Rolex, it makes sense to expect they conform to the advertised standards.

Like advertised MPG, COSC or some other “standard” varies with type of usage. This, I think, is where YMMV originates.


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[BraveBold]

Originally Posted by 77T

Like advertised MPG, COSC or some other “standard” varies with type of usage. This, I think, is where YMMV originates.


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Agree. In part at least.

If your car cannot make its stated MPG, you can initiate a class action. This isn’t about whether it does, but whether it can.

I -do- think that users need to understand key concepts (like full wind, basic usage parameters). Someone who knows watches and has a few making their stated specs, and one that doesn’t, likely has a legitimate “issue”…

[Blansky]

As other have said, I don't worry or notice accuracy since I swap them out every few days.

This is the only time it bothers me.....

[Easy E]

Originally Posted by Blansky

As other have said, I don't worry or notice accuracy since I swap them out every few days.

This is the only time it bothers me.....

I could see how that might get to you a little.

[Rollei35]

My dj36 is about 1 second faster every 3 days.
My YM40 is about 1 second faster every 2 days.
My sub is about 3 second slower everyday.
None of them bothers me.

[codecow]

Maybe it’s this, if you rely on the watch to be accurate then it needs to be accurate.

Twice in the last year I set my wife’s watch incorrectly. So it was accurately keeping the wrong time.

In terms of pure tools, everyone has a cell phone with a clock that is more accurate and sync’d to an external time source like an atomic clock. With that said, if you need it on your wrist and you don’t want to use an actually accurate watch like one that syncs to an external time source; there are still options like the Citizen that is accurate to 1 sec/year.

I’m always looking at my phone so I don’t need a watch to tell time.

However, I also don’t want to wear a broken watch that can’t tell time.

[MINOLI]

I know the spec is +2/-2, if it varies a few seconds outside of this, then it doesn't bother me.

I sent my SD43 in a few years ago, as it was - 7-8 seconds per day, has been great since. I sent my 126710 BLRO in a few weeks ago for running - 11 seconds per day. Both serviced under warranty. Not acceptable in my opinion to be - 11 seconds per day over the course of a few months.

[vliberman]

I loathe sports car analogy but will use it here: if u buy certain specs like time to 60, top speed and handling characteristics, one expects them to be true. In a context of daily usage, absolutely irrelevant. One might have a few vehicles and change them throughout…. Why should watches be different? Measurable characteristics are the only way to compare anything objectively, the rest is art…

That is why I firmly believe that Rolex makes the best mechanical watches in the world, full stop…none of the whole trinity BS brands come close…. But they do polish their watches thoroughly by hand…

[Juan Luis]

Originally Posted by rcwatchcollector

For a Rolex. Anything past 10sec day is annoying and I would get it serviced. Luckily all my Rolex watches are within 1 sec. Amazing. This is what truly impressed me about Rolex. The sheer accuracy. I don’t see how they do it making so many watches.


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In my opinion 10 seconds is unacceptable. BTW, I have never owned a Rolex that is faster than 2-3 seconds.
And I do not consider myself lucky.

[Blansky]

I get the whole concept that Rolex and others specify that their watches are plus or minus whatever, but basically anything within a minute is fine by me.

My life is just not that regulated, where I need to check it all the time to see if it's a second or two off.

Everyone is different.

I had a friend that set his watch 5 minutes fast so he'd always arrive somewhere on time.

Now this lady, she's paid to have OCD.

[Dave O]

Originally Posted by Blansky

I get the whole concept that Rolex and others specify that their watches are plus or minus whatever, but basically anything within a minute is fine by me.

My life is just not that regulated, where I need to check it all the time to see if it's a second or two off.

Everyone is different.

I had a friend that set his watch 5 minutes fast so he'd always arrive somewhere on time.

Now this lady, she's paid to have OCD.

If you are saying a minute a day off is ok by you then I think you are letting a luxury watch maker off the hook. Rolex guarantees their new watches to be +- 2 sec/day, and there is no reason not to expect that standard.

If you are saying that you are ok with a watch being off by one minute at any given time I agree with that (heck, I'm fine with 2 minutes). I'm ok resetting my watch every month or two. But I don't want to have to reset my watch every 6 days because it is running +- 10 sec/day. They are promised to deliver +- 2 sec/day and once that gets up to ~ 10 sec/day is where I draw the line. We should not accept a $10k+ watch to lose/gain that much time while still under warranty.

[Blansky]

Originally Posted by Dave O

If you are saying a minute a day off is ok by you then I think you are letting a luxury watch maker off the hook. Rolex guarantees their new watches to be +- 2 sec/day, and there is no reason not to expect that standard.

If you are saying that you are ok with a watch being off by one minute at any given time I agree with that (heck, I'm fine with 2 minutes). I'm ok resetting my watch every month or two. But I don't want to have to reset my watch every 6 days because it is running +- 10 sec/day. They are promised to deliver +- 2 sec/day and once that gets up to ~ 10 sec/day is where I draw the line. We should not accept a $10k+ watch to lose/gain that much time while still under warranty.

Actually what I'm saying is the 10 watches in rotation, I have no idea what their accuracy is. I never checked.

I get it. To some people checking and using tools to check is important to them. To me not so much, in response to the OP.

[Jcm87]

I've noticed lately my Sub (14 months old) is losing a noticeable amount of time over a week, at least 10 seconds a day. This is a major bummer, and something I haven't had happen with my non-Rolex watches.

[Lesnerelli23]

My 2019 116610 is still running within +-2, also my 3 Tudors run that or slightly better. My 2001 Explorer runs +5 if I don’t take it off but +10 if I sit it on a table for bed… no matter what position I leave it in which is weird lol.

My Planet Ocean, which I’ve sold, was almost 0/day


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[Mathematoxic]

Recently sent my 4yr old sub(worn almost daily) that runs slow about 11s per day to RSC and they confirmed that it needs to be serviced. Upon collection they mentioned something was done to the power reserve and also some parts in the watch was replaced. Watch is under warranty hence no costs involved.

[Goldman555]

Having owned Rolex for 30 years if you want an accurate watch Rolex is not it in fact mechanical watches are inherently inaccurate. Of course they are pretty much able to tell the time but if you want accurate time you should look at your phone or get an Apple watch. Or if you are looking for a physical watch the accuracy of Seiko's is far superior to Rolex obviously I'm talking about the high end ones