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Old 7 January 2010, 03:28 AM   #1
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Did Pan Am ever fly Concorde??

And did you know, ROLEX uses "Russian" ss now, yup, your 904L comes sometimes from Russia, FYI !

Ad nabbed from Jake's and Leo's place !

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Old 7 January 2010, 03:31 AM   #2
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I thought it was only Air France and British Airways???
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Old 7 January 2010, 03:31 AM   #3
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No, PanAm Never used the Concorde. They placed orders but never came through.

It would have looked like this



I'm VP of PanAm World Airways Virtual!

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Old 7 January 2010, 03:33 AM   #4
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Thanks so much for this post. Informative and thought provoking to some extent.
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Old 7 January 2010, 03:33 AM   #5
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No, PanAm Never used the Concorde. They placed orders but never came through.

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I'm VP of PanAm World Airways Virtual!

www.fsxpanam.webs.com
I will trade you a watch pouch for that model !
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Old 7 January 2010, 03:34 AM   #6
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Old 7 January 2010, 03:36 AM   #7
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Nope was only British Airways and Air France. Not sure which Russian airline flew the concordski though. Aeroflot maybe? Not sure if it ever even entered passernger service.
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Old 7 January 2010, 03:39 AM   #8
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Nope was only British Airways and Air France. Not sure which Russian airline flew the concordski though. Aeroflot maybe? Not sure if it ever even entered passernger service.
Aeroflot had the Concordeski and Yes it went into passenger service but for a short time.
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Old 7 January 2010, 03:45 AM   #9
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Like the part that states it takes more than a year to build a Rolex.There's a lot of myths surrounding Rolex watches,and here is one of them.You often hear that it takes Rolex a year to build a watch. Rolex does little to dispel this myth and in fact promotes it in some of its advertising like one above. But this claim is widely ridiculed within the industry. Anyone who has seen Rolex's new watch manufacturing center in Geneva knows it's a near perfect fusion of automation and technology.Today when you consider that Rolex was producing around 3000-4,000 plus watches a day at peek, this one-year-to-build claim is exposed for what it is.Just purely marketing hype propaganda bullsh#t designed to create a romantic myth around the idea of real watchmaking instead of highly automated mass production..I watched a program on the making of mobile phones all those very very tiny component put on to circuit boards at break neck speed by machine.Cannot see why not the same for mass produced watches.
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Old 7 January 2010, 03:49 AM   #10
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$295 for a SS GMT Master?!?!????!!! WOW!! What year was this? 1958?
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Old 7 January 2010, 03:57 AM   #11
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I believe there was a lot of lobbying by Boeing to stop the purchase by Pan-am , most US airports were told to refuse concord because of "noise pollution" . Never thought the US was that "green" minded , look how long it takes them to accept "Kyoto" but the concord was stopped in the early 70's ...
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Old 7 January 2010, 04:01 AM   #12
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$295 for a SS GMT Master?!?!????!!! WOW!! What year was this? 1958?
But don't forget the average yearly wage in 1958 was around $3600.
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Old 7 January 2010, 04:51 AM   #13
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But don't forget the average yearly wage in 1958 was around $3600.
The median individual (male) income in 1960 was $4,080. At $295, that's 7.2% of annual income.

The median individual (male) income in 2006 was $32,140. 7.2% of that is $2,314. The GMT Master II in 2006 sold for $4525.00 or 14.1% of annual income.

So, we could say that Rolex is, relatively speaking, twice as expensive today as they were 45 years ago.
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Old 7 January 2010, 04:58 AM   #14
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I worked for Eastern Air Lines in the 80's and the Concord use to fly into Miami International Airport ( Man what a noisy plane ) It was British Airways. Pan Am
was also a main airline there and so was National Airlines, ( remember the commercial For National Airlines with the stewardess Hi I'm Nancy fly me ) anyway never saw a Pan Am Concorde ...
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Old 7 January 2010, 10:30 AM   #15
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In 1966 there were 3 C $ to the Pound. C$295 = £98. My new 1675 cost me £85. Pretty close!

This site might be of interest for other comparisons.

http://fx.sauder.ubc.ca/etc/
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Old 7 January 2010, 11:20 AM   #16
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Pan Am DID fly this !

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Old 7 January 2010, 12:03 PM   #17
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The median individual (male) income in 1960 was $4,080. At $295, that's 7.2% of annual income.

The median individual (male) income in 2006 was $32,140. 7.2% of that is $2,314. The GMT Master II in 2006 sold for $4525.00 or 14.1% of annual income.

So, we could say that Rolex is, relatively speaking, twice as expensive today as they were 45 years ago.
Thanks for the analysis. Actually the ad is from 1969 (they give the date on Jake's blog) so the GMT is probably closer to 3x as expensive (relative to income) today as in the ad.
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Old 7 January 2010, 12:28 PM   #18
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Love the vintage Rolex ads.

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Old 7 January 2010, 12:30 PM   #19
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...and the titanium used to build the SR-71 came from Russia as well. It was bought under a CIA dummy corp so not to be seen it was going to be used against the very country it originated.
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Old 7 January 2010, 01:04 PM   #20
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The Boeing 2707 (SST) project had funding cancelled in 1971 before a prototype was even finished.

The Soviets flew the TU-144 from 1968 - 1978 (mainly cargo). It had passenger service starting in 1977. Supposedly it only flew about 100 flights.

The Concorde flew from 1969 - 2003 for British Airways and Air France.
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The median individual (male) income in 1960 was $4,080. At $295, that's 7.2% of annual income.

The median individual (male) income in 2006 was $32,140. 7.2% of that is $2,314. The GMT Master II in 2006 sold for $4525.00 or 14.1% of annual income.

So, we could say that Rolex is, relatively speaking, twice as expensive today as they were 45 years ago.
As Benjamin said:

'There are lies, damned lies and statistics'.
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Old 7 January 2010, 09:25 PM   #22
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I worked for Eastern Air Lines in the 80's and the Concord use to fly into Miami International Airport ( Man what a noisy plane ) ...
I can vouch for that. In 1976 I was at Heathrow airport's freight building retrieving the motorcycle I'd had shipped there for a European tour. Heard one He!! of a noise and looked up, I was directly under the glide path of a landing Concorde. But man oh man, what a sight!!!
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Old 8 January 2010, 12:00 AM   #23
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I can vouch for that. In 1976 I was at Heathrow airport's freight building retrieving the motorcycle I'd had shipped there for a European tour. Heard one He!! of a noise and looked up, I was directly under the glide path of a landing Concorde. But man oh man, what a sight!!!
Aah to live in those times, to see that musta been lika 'moon landing' !
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Old 8 January 2010, 12:40 AM   #24
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Always wanted to hop the pond on a Concord! They were grounded before it happened.
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British and Air France WERE NOT the only airlines to fly the Concorde. At one point one of them was painted and operated for Singapore Airlines using a British airways owned Concord.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Singa...71cef59cce9428

Also, Pesps Co painted an Air France owned Concord for publicity.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-F...71cef59cce9428

Aeroflot flew te Tu -144 for a very short period of time..the Soviet version of the Concord
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Like the part that states it takes more than a year to build a Rolex.There's a lot of myths surrounding Rolex watches,and here is one of them.You often hear that it takes Rolex a year to build a watch. Rolex does little to dispel this myth and in fact promotes it in some of its advertising like one above. But this claim is widely ridiculed within the industry. Anyone who has seen Rolex's new watch manufacturing center in Geneva knows it's a near perfect fusion of automation and technology.Today when you consider that Rolex was producing around 3000-4,000 plus watches a day at peek, this one-year-to-build claim is exposed for what it is.Just purely marketing hype propaganda bullsh#t designed to create a romantic myth around the idea of real watchmaking instead of highly automated mass production..I watched a program on the making of mobile phones all those very very tiny component put on to circuit boards at break neck speed by machine.Cannot see why not the same for mass produced watches.

Wow! I just scanned and gave this ad to Jake three days ago and it already winds up here.
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Old 9 January 2010, 04:55 PM   #27
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If I were flying the Concord tomorrow, I'd wear a parachute...
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