1680 Red Sub

[barstoolman]

Hey Guys-

Is this watch real?????? Numbers on end links, 1520 movement, position of ft under Submariner, L under coronet...is this correct???? Let me know.....most appreciated


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...T#ht_744wt_925

[bayerische]

Isn't that the wrong bracelet atleast?

I'm certainly no expert on these. The red "Submariner" text looks a bit strange?

[barstoolman]

Originally Posted by bayerische

Isn't that the wrong bracelet atleast?

I'm certainly no expert on these. The red "Submariner" text looks a bit strange?

That's what I'm thinking but I'm certainly no expert. Thanks for the input. Hope I get some more.

[TheBluePrince]

Well it ain't got a 1520 in it, that's for sure so that pic is a different watch.

[TimeToGo]

Originally Posted by TheBluePrince

Well it ain't got a 1520 in it, that's for sure so that pic is a different watch.

This sounds right. The 1520 was used in the 55XX series for years, but I do not know about the 1680.

The bracelet is a later production year than the watch.

[FIB112358]

Originally Posted by TheBluePrince

Well it ain't got a 1520 in it, that's for sure so that pic is a different watch.

you guys jump to conclusions too quickly.....look at the watch as a whole...then think about it for a second......it looks as if the osciliating weight has been changed, this does happen you know, this part """moves constantly""" therefore they wear out.... and they are interchangable....all 1520-1570....know your watches before you comment

[TheBluePrince]

Originally Posted by FIB112358

you guys jump to conclusions too quickly.....look at the watch as a whole...then think about it for a second......it looks as if the osciliating weight has been changed, this does happen you know, this part """moves constantly""" therefore they wear out.... and they are interchangable....all 1520-1570....know your watches before you comment

The oscilating weight is the same on all that movement series, the whole top bridge/plate under it would have to have been changed, as that's what 1520 is written on. If so it's a butchered movement, fitted with inccorect parts and there is no way a watch with a date can have non-date movement fitted so the description is wrong, the movement is wrong whatever way you look at it.

[TimeToGo]

Originally Posted by FIB112358

you guys jump to conclusions too quickly.....look at the watch as a whole...then think about it for a second......it looks as if the osciliating weight has been changed, this does happen you know, this part """moves constantly""" therefore they wear out.... and they are interchangable....all 1520-1570....know your watches before you comment

Point taken. The listing, though, says the watch HAS a 1520 movement.

[FIB112358]

Originally Posted by TheBluePrince

The oscilating weight is the same on all that movement series, the whole top bridge/plate under it would have to have been changed, as that's what 1520 is written on. If so it's a butchered movement, fitted with inccorect parts and there is no way a watch with a date can have non-date movement fitted so the description is wrong, the movement is wrong whatever way you look at it.

you have no idea what you are talking about!!!

[TheBluePrince]

Originally Posted by FIB112358

you have no idea what you are talking about!!!

I know that a 1520 movement shouldn't and couldn't be in a 1680 watch, a 1570 movement shouldn't be botched/butchered with a 1520 top plate and that you are a rude, ignorant, and arrogant.

So, actually, that is quite a lot i know just limiting myslef to this thread isn't it.

[FIB112358]

Originally Posted by TheBluePrince

I know that a 1520 movement shouldn't and couldn't be in a 1680 watch, a 1570 movement shouldn't be botched/butchered with a 1520 top plate and that you are a rude, ignorant, and arrogant.

so how many of these movements have you worked on before???

[TheBluePrince]

Originally Posted by FIB112358

so how many of these movements have you worked on before???

1520 a lot ta.

So could a 1520 be in a 1680?

Should a 1570 be fitted with a 1520 top bridge/plate and then advertised as a 1520 in a 1680?

[TimeToGo]

Some great information listed on the thread below:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?p=1525263

[FIB112358]

Originally Posted by TheBluePrince

1520 a lot ta.

So could a 1520 be in a 1680?

Should a 1570 be fitted with a 1520 top bridge/plate and then advertised as a 1520 in a 1680?

dude...your a head doctor fiddling at the arse end,

the weight has got nothing to do with the date config, it's a matter of available parts, the watch is fine, move along now please

[TheBluePrince]

Originally Posted by FIB112358

dude...your a head doctor fiddling at the arse end,

the weight has got nothing to do with the date config, it's a matter of available parts, the watch is fine, move along now please

You're funny, well you're making me laugh

Ok, so you're agreeing with me that a 1520 movement can't be in a 1680 with a date?

So you think it's ok to repair movements with any old part to hand that fits? And to then describe the watch as having a movement that it doesn't and cannot have?

If that's fine then lets start putting some mickey mouse dials on them there Submariners and having some real fun!

[FIB112358]

ok I've got a question for you, did you read the following link that TTG added: ?

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?p=1525263

now you tell me whether the movement in the watch in question has a flat hairspring or a breguet overcoil, this will answer the question of whether it is fitted with the correct movement or not.....


furthermore have a look at the serial of the movement baseplate...does that look like the serial of an early 1520 to you?

[TheBluePrince]

You didn't answer either of my questions or either of my previous Two and you want me to start answering yours now?

It's clear what has been done to the movement, that the description is wrong and that the movement is now not as it should be having been repaired with the wrongly marked parts making it entirely incorrect and misleading.

[FIB112358]

ok, pardon me, ill answer,
it's a 1570 movement that has a 1520 weight fitted,
now it's your turn

and yes i do think it is fine that it has a 1520 weight as this does not change the fundamental characteristics of the movement

[TheBluePrince]

Originally Posted by FIB112358

ok, pardon me, ill answer,
it's a 1570 movement that has a 1520 weight fitted,
now it's your turn

Right. So is that OK? It it ok to advertise it as having a 1520 movement when it does not?

[TheBluePrince]

Just read the last line of your post.

We'll have to agree to differ on this one then.

Then Ebay sale is misleading, the description is incorrect, the movement is now misleading and wrongly marked/fitted with the wrong parts not intended for it.

Just because parts fit doesn't mean it's OK to fit them.

[FIB112358]

yep, it's fine because either way, the buyer will be getting a correct watch, but it would be more correct if they advertised it as having a 1570 movt fitted with a 1520 rotor,
but Im glad we have come a long way from you incorrectly identifying the movement

[TheBluePrince]

Lol, i didn't i said "it ain't got a 1520 in it that's for sure"

And it hasn't got a 1520 in it

[Czechman]

All that aside he states PayPal but will only accept Wire Transfer or Personal Check. Ebay violation.

[TimeToGo]

Originally Posted by Czechman

All that aside he states PayPal but will only accept Wire Transfer or Personal Check. Ebay violation.

Those little details...

For L.C. sort out!