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Old 4 July 2010, 04:47 AM   #1
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Screws backing out...1 mon. old EXP II .. ?

Was fishing for a week with my month old Explorer II (from AD) and when I looked down to admire my Rolex and turned it to view the clasp - my jaw dropped when I saw that a screw in the bracelet was half backed out..!! I quickly removed it and placed it into my jacket pocket. Had I not noticed that screw coming out I might have been calling State Farm Monday...has this ever happened to anyone with a new Rolex? I contacted my AD and he stated that his watchmaker 'is usually pretty good with loctite...'

So I turned in the screw gently and will return the watch to my AD to check all remaining screws..


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Old 4 July 2010, 04:52 AM   #2
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There we have a good example why Loctite is necessary. If I where you so have I pull off every screw and give
them some Loctite. If you don't feel safe to do it by yourself it will be very cheap to do at a watchmaker.
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Old 4 July 2010, 05:05 AM   #3
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Old 4 July 2010, 05:10 AM   #4
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Old 4 July 2010, 05:42 AM   #5
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How will he be able to lose it?
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Old 4 July 2010, 06:13 AM   #6
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Personally, I do not think it is good enough for the AD to deal with this matter. I would insist on the bracelet being returned to RolexSA Geneve and for the AD to supply and fit a brand new bracelet.

I do not know why this should have happened on such a new bracelet;- I am sure that Rolex SA Geneve would wish to find out for their quality control.

Screwing it back in with loctite or no loctite?... I do not think that is the solution....just send it back... let Rolex deal with it.

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I think they should reverse the thread so it only comes lose when you wear it on your right wrist.
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Old 4 July 2010, 06:34 AM   #8
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Further to my previous reply the question of the screw coming undone/loose I have just realised that we have all been also discussing two issues;-

1. The use of loctite for the bracelet screws.
2. What is the toughest Rolex.

For some of us on this forum the Explorer is the toughest watch and also loctite is not necesary.

To fans of the Explorer who think it is the toughest and others who think loctite is not necessary what do they think of this potentially catestrophic loss/failure of this Rolex Explorer?

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Old 4 July 2010, 06:41 AM   #9
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Personally, I do not think it is good enough for the AD to deal with this matter. I would insist on the bracelet being returned to RolexSA Geneve and for the AD to supply and fit a brand new bracelet.

I do not know why this should have happened on such a new bracelet;- I am sure that Rolex SA Geneve would wish to find out for their quality control.

Screwing it back in with loctite or no loctite?... I do not think that is the solution....just send it back... let Rolex deal with it.

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Brand new bracelet because of a loose screw? That's insane.

It was probably loose from the start, poor quality control perhaps, but screw it back in already. Or go nylon, that's probably the best solution.
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Old 4 July 2010, 06:55 AM   #10
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Probably the sales clerk adjusted your bracelet and did not give it a good twist to tighten. I size and tighten all my watches and do not use loctite. Very easy to do yourself.
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Old 4 July 2010, 07:21 AM   #12
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I'm getting a mini air ratchet for my screws. I figure if they are snugged in with loctite, at 225 ft lbs that should hold it tight.

That picture reminds me of a trip to Cold Lake, Canada. The lake trout are fun to fish.
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Old 4 July 2010, 07:22 AM   #13
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I'm getting a mini air ratchet for my screws. I figure if they are snugged in with loctite, at 225 ft lbs that should hold it tight.

That picture reminds me of a trip to Cold Lake, Canada. The lake trout are fun to fish.
I use to weld my ones to be safe. It's no problem, I just use my andle grinder when I resize.
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Old 4 July 2010, 09:41 AM   #14
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Thanks for all the replies...

I did not screw it back in because I do not own a tiny screw driver which would fit.

I did have the bracelet adjusted - another link added when I bought it - however my AD has a watchmaker who worked at Rolex for 11 years and stated that he is normally good with loctite and torquing these screws however things happen.

Thank goodness I looked down at that Explorer...a couple more fish and it may have separated and released from my wrist - perhaps falling into the boat if I was lucky. Going forward I will now keep an eye on this during active pastimes. That being said - I never had issues with IWC or Omega bracelets - neither of which use screws - yet often come under criticism...

And yes the fishing was at Lesser Slave Lake in northern Alberta where the walleye were biting anything!
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Old 4 July 2010, 09:48 AM   #15
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Stupid question......Are pike just a sport fish, or do people eat them (regularly). I know people eat turtles, and carp, but are they really worth preparing?
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Old 4 July 2010, 10:03 AM   #16
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Stupid question......Are pike just a sport fish, or do people eat them (regularly). I know people eat turtles, and carp, but are they really worth preparing?
Our family and friends do not eat pike. It really depends on who you ask and how hungry you are . I have eaten pike before - where all of the pin bones have been removed - and it was caught early in the year in cool water...and deep fried it was pretty darn good. But it comes down to what you prefer taste and texture-wise...
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I'm getting a mini air ratchet for my screws. I figure if they are snugged in with loctite, at 225 ft lbs that should hold it tight.

That picture reminds me of a trip to Cold Lake, Canada. The lake trout are fun to fish.
Paul...When were you in Cold Lake??
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Strange happenings! I would send it back to Rolex Geneva. I never use loctite on my rolex bracelets. I adjust the bracelets myself, after finding the "how to" instructions here on the forum. Sounds weird that the screw would back out on it's own. As for the watchmaker..
Could have been a simple oversight.

I've seen posts here of people with the same issue.
Really weird.
I wonder if it's the watchmakers at the AD. Since, this one above made an adjustment to the bracelet. Seems like he/she may be the suspect.
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Old 4 July 2010, 10:20 AM   #19
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More fishing pix from northern Alberta..

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I'm getting a mini air ratchet for my screws. I figure if they are snugged in with loctite, at 225 ft lbs that should hold it tight.

That picture reminds me of a trip to Cold Lake, Canada. The lake trout are fun to fish.
Enjoy these pictures...fishing heaven I reckon...!








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Old 4 July 2010, 11:02 AM   #20
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Is it possible that whomever sized the watch did a poor job and either stripped the screw or didn't re-screw them properly?

I have to admit, when I first read this title, I was thinking the consensus would be: if the caseback screws are loose, it's probably from where the dealer put in a new battery :D.
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Old 4 July 2010, 11:03 AM   #21
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I thought I was going crazy I am having the same issue with my Milgauss. I have been using the mini screwdriver for a few weeks and it keeps backing out. I was planning on taking it to the AD on Monday. Anyone else out there having similar issues?
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Probably the sales clerk adjusted your bracelet and did not give it a good twist to tighten. I size and tighten all my watches and do not use loctite. Very easy to do yourself.
Very likely.
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Old 4 July 2010, 11:17 AM   #23
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I would take the watch back! Surely, with the price of Rolex, you shouldn't have these issues.
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Never mind the Rolex for just a minute. Where have you been fishing to have caught all that Walleye, or Pickerel, or Dore ?
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Personally, I do not think it is good enough for the AD to deal with this matter. I would insist on the bracelet being returned to RolexSA Geneve and for the AD to supply and fit a brand new bracelet.

I do not know why this should have happened on such a new bracelet;- I am sure that Rolex SA Geneve would wish to find out for their quality control.

Screwing it back in with loctite or no loctite?... I do not think that is the solution....just send it back... let Rolex deal with it.

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Screws can become unscrewed.

Nothing is perfect... especially humans and last I heard, Rolex is assembled by hand.

I think I have to adopt the tag line of another member...
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very nice pictures of the trip. love those fish and the sunset scene.

it's an important reminder for us all to check the screws from time to time, just like checking the oil or tire pressure on your car
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You have the new style clasp on your Explorer! Did it come like that NIB from Rolex? If so there has been a change recently. It also looks like it is the new style standard (non flip lock) clasp.

If it did not come like that from the factory someone has added the clasp, and like others have said a bit of Loctite will fix things.

I am curious on the clasp!

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I love this clasp..

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You have the new style clasp on your Explorer! Did it come like that NIB from Rolex? If so there has been a change recently. It also looks like it is the new style standard (non flip lock) clasp.

I am curious on the clasp!

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I think this clasp is more in keeping with the Explorer II. So comfortable and looks fantastic!


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Screws can become unscrewed.

Nothing is perfect... especially humans and last I heard, Rolex is assembled by hand.

I think I have to adopt the tag line of another member...
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Agree that nothing is perfect but would doubt if all Rolex are assembled by hand today.And yes screws can become unscrewed, but a simple task like most other screws that become loose. Just screw them back in its not rocket science.
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