Does the engraved rehaut work?

[VincentVega]

We're told the original purpose of the engraved rehaut is to further prevent accurate counterfeit watches. My question is simple: Are there any KNOWN counterfeit Rolex watches with the engraved rehaut? If so, does anyone mind posting a few pictures?

I'm not worried about any specific watch or anything, just curious how reliable it is to distinguish a counterfeit from the real deal based partially on the rehaut.

I apologize if this has been discussed before.

[Rolesor]

The new fakes do have the engraved rehaut - I've seen at least 5 on the subway on the way to work.

The few that have shown up on TRF always seem to be miss-aligned, poorly etched and I think there are even a few common serial numbers used..

I don't know much else - I just know they look like crap-o-la!

[2th Dr]

Yes there are, but this is not a topic that should be discussed here, much less post pictures of.

TRF Rules:
5. THIS IS NOT A FORUM FOR THE DISCUSSION OF FAKE WATCHES, BRACELETS ETC, and your opinion are about FAKE WATCHES and who makes them, sells them, buys them and wears them is NOT welcome.

[Speed]

There are examples I have seen of bogus rehaut engraving. The quality is usually poor.

That said we don't talk much about Fakes here. :-)

[Dr.Brian]

Maybe you can repost in the watchout section.

[VincentVega]

I don't think this is in any way encouraging or condoning counterfeit activity. The point of the thread is to further everyones understanding of Rolex watches. I guess if you want to flame me for speaking of a "taboo" subject, feel free. I maintain though that this thread could be more interesting and productive than many other threads if people felt open to discuss.

It's not like I posted a picture and said "is this real or fake." I'm just trying to understand Rolex products a little more and possibly protect some follow TRF readers.

[esm]

Originally Posted by VincentVega

I don't think this is in any way encouraging or condoning counterfeit activity. The point of the thread is to further everyones understanding of Rolex watches. I guess if you want to flame me for speaking of a "taboo" subject, feel free. I maintain though that this thread could be more interesting and productive than many other threads if people felt open to discuss.

It's not like I posted a picture and said "is this real or fake." I'm just trying to understand Rolex products a little more and possibly protect some follow TRF readers.

agreed!

imo - the op was simply asking if the rehut actually worked to allow most people to spot a fake. due to bad quality engrave.

[kel]

Sorry..... i must be a stupid newbie or something.... i dont get it... No one here would want to get stitched up with a fake, whether be a watch, shirt, bag or whatever. `so why when someone asks a question about it are they "shot down in flames" and quoted a rule.

[QUOTETRF Rules:
5. THIS IS NOT A FORUM FOR THE DISCUSSION OF FAKE WATCHES, BRACELETS ETC, and your opinion are about FAKE WATCHES and who makes them, sells them, buys them and wears them is NOT welcome.[/QUOTE]

I for one didn't know about the "rehaut thing" with the fakes and have just learned something "WORTH KNOWING".

Thanks to the OP for bringing this up..... And does rule five apply to the "watching" section cos i've learned hell of a lot there too!

Long live pickled eggs.....

[kel]

Why cant i get that damn quote thingy to work properly??!!??

[sakuraba]

Originally Posted by kel

Why cant i get that damn quote thingy to work properly??!!??

Just hit the "quote" button and type after the "[/QUOTE]"

Hope this helps.

[sakuraba]

Originally Posted by VincentVega

I don't think this is in any way encouraging or condoning counterfeit activity. The point of the thread is to further everyones understanding of Rolex watches. I guess if you want to flame me for speaking of a "taboo" subject, feel free. I maintain though that this thread could be more interesting and productive than many other threads if people felt open to discuss.

It's not like I posted a picture and said "is this real or fake." I'm just trying to understand Rolex products a little more and possibly protect some follow TRF readers.

I don't think there's a problem with the topic, just might be better posted in the "Watch Out" Forum instead.

[Dr.Brian]

The rules are the rules. This post is clearly violating them, and the OP DID ask for pictures BTW. Feel free to post about whatever you want, but you might not like the result of your actions. If you don't like the rules, feel free to PM the mods or the owner with your suggestions on how to run their privately funded site.
There are whole forums about fake watches. Just seek them out and see the state of the art for yourself, or post there. It's pretty scary.
Again, this post may fly in the watchout section. Just a heads up.

[jcherskine]

Fake = counterfeit= non Rolex = No discussion.
That's the rule.
Counterfeiters may also monitor TRF, and pointing out faults with non Rolex items, could lead to counterfeiters becoming more adept at producing goods which may be more like the genuine article.
Best not to discuss.

[springbar]

Originally Posted by jcherskine

Fake = counterfeit= non Rolex = No discussion.
That's the rule.
Counterfeiters may also monitor TRF, and pointing out faults with non Rolex items, could lead to counterfeiters becoming more adept at producing goods which may be more like the genuine article.
Best not to discuss.

Yeah, whatever.

What about this popular thread in which the inauthentic details of a fake Milgauss are discussed in-depth - and by a moderator no less - with congratulations for his insight from the site admin himself?

Clearly the rule is subject to interpretation.

[Rolesor]

Sorry for my initial input guys - didn't think / know I was breaking rules.

[kel]

well now i'm really confused..... I thought a forum like this, with all the knowledge, knowhow and experience here you folk apposed to this discussion, which is all it is, discussion, would appreciate that if a thread like this one saved ONE person being stuffed with ONE fake would be a result..... Also, how would a counterfeiter become more adept at producing by reading these posts??? I'm sure without any disrespect to anyone here that Mr Counterfeighter in his massive criminal organisation with millions at his disposal from every crime known to man will manage quite well just by looking at the real thing.

I would sooner look at it from a different point of view.

Maybe with posts on this subject we are making their job harder to pass off crap as the real thing. If they do monitor the forums, what they are learning is that its getting harder to fool folk.....

[VincentVega]

Originally Posted by kel

well now i'm really confused..... I thought a forum like this, with all the knowledge, knowhow and experience here you folk apposed to this discussion, which is all it is, discussion, would appreciate that if a thread like this one saved ONE person being stuffed with ONE fake would be a result..... Also, how would a counterfeiter become more adept at producing by reading these posts??? I'm sure without any disrespect to anyone here that Mr Counterfeighter in his massive criminal organisation with millions at his disposal from every crime known to man will manage quite well just by looking at the real thing.

I would sooner look at it from a different point of view.

Maybe with posts on this subject we are making their job harder to pass off crap as the real thing. If they do monitor the forums, what they are learning is that its getting harder to fool folk.....

Well said. Also, counterfeiters can look at the millions of pictures on this forum to figure out exactly how to make them look more real. The point is that the ridiculous argument that discussing it somehow makes it easier for them reminds me of the circular logic promoted by politicians.

Don't let the terrorists win. Don't let the counterfeiters win.

[jcherskine]

Originally Posted by springbar

Yeah, whatever.

What about this popular thread in which the inauthentic details of a fake Milgauss are discussed in-depth - and by a moderator no less - with congratulations for his insight from the site admin himself?

Clearly the rule is subject to interpretation.

The popular thread in question was the result of a TRF member posting a picture of a watch that he had bought and believed it was genuine.
The members of TRF quickly pointed out that it was not authentic, thereby enabling the OP to take appropriate action.

VincentVega in his post asked:

We're told the original purpose of the engraved rehaut is to further prevent accurate counterfeit watches. My question is simple: Are there any KNOWN counterfeit Rolex watches with the engraved rehaut? If so, does anyone mind posting a few pictures?

He unknowingly asked people to deliberately post pictures of non Rolex items on the forum.

That is against the rules. Unless in the "Watchout" section.

If you don't agree with this rule, then as previously stated, you can complain to the Mods.

[Dr.Brian]

Originally Posted by springbar

Yeah, whatever.

Great attitude man.

[Welshwatchman]

Done.

[Welshwatchman]

Originally Posted by springbar

Yeah, whatever.

What about this popular thread in which the inauthentic details of a fake Milgauss are discussed in-depth - and by a moderator no less - with congratulations for his insight from the site admin himself?

Clearly the rule is subject to interpretation.

This thread is wholly about a fake Rolex.

The other thread was about letting some poor sod know that his "genuine Rolex" was not so good.

Apart from the fact that admin and myself were never really in danger of getting in trouble with anyone.