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EchoBlueUK · 13 July 2010, 03:51 AM

As there are 2 types of glidelock clasps, DSSD & New Sub it got me thinking: what is the point of the DSSD glidelock? Are there any advantages over the sub's? The only one i can think of is that it maybe easier to adjust the dssd's whilst on the wrist or is it just a necessity of design because of the diver extension?

I know both are great pieces of engineering - the dssd's arguably more so as its more complex but surely the sub's will prove to be more reliable over time due to the fewer moving parts?

Any thoughts guys?

JJ Irani · 13 July 2010, 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EchoBlueUK

As there are 2 types of glidelock clasps, DSSD & New Sub it got me thinking: what is the point of the DSSD glidelock? Are there any advantages over the sub's? The only one i can think of is that it maybe easier to adjust the dssd's whilst on the wrist or is it just a necessity of design because of the diver extension?

I know both are great pieces of engineering - the dssd's arguably more so as its more complex but surely the sub's will prove to be more reliable over time due to the fewer moving parts?

Any thoughts guys?

Very good points raised there.............let the experts chime in!!

JJ

EchoBlueUK · 13 July 2010, 05:12 PM

Anyone?

Jayo · 13 July 2010, 05:27 PM

I have the new Sub and the Deepsea! The Deepsea is more practical! You can make it wider or tighter while wearing it and you can do so by just adding milimeters! It is great! You have to take off the Sub for that! You can see, that the Deepsea is more sophisticated and it doesn't seem or feel less reliable, so Deepsea is the better Glidelock for me!

Atomant · 13 July 2010, 07:18 PM

Why don't Rolex use the DSSD glidelock clasp on the new ceramic sub as well instead of using two different one?

BASSETHOUNDS · 13 July 2010, 07:25 PM

To distinguish the watches ? Not to have many interchangeable parts . Why does Rolex not make a jubilee bracelet for the DJ2 ? Maybe not to confuse it with a DD? Rolex works in mysterious ways

Jayo · 13 July 2010, 07:56 PM

I think they just want to have one real professional dive watch and that is the Deepsea, so they put the more professional bezel on it and the better Glidelock!

And the Deepsea Glidelock is longer, so it fits the bigger watch better!

Andad · 13 July 2010, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayo

I have the new Sub and the Deepsea! The Deepsea is more practical! You can make it wider or tighter while wearing it and you can do so by just adding milimeters! It is great! You have to take off the Sub for that! You can see, that the Deepsea is more sophisticated and it doesn't seem or feel less reliable, so Deepsea is the better Glidelock for me!

Atomant · 14 July 2010, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayo

I think they just want to have one real professional dive watch and that is the Deepsea, so they put the more professional bezel on it and the better Glidelock!

And the Deepsea Glidelock is longer, so it fits the bigger watch better!

Great, you must be one deepsea owner.

Rolesor · 14 July 2010, 12:34 AM

I didn't know you could adjust the DSSD while it was still on the wrist - that is awesome!

Atomant · 14 July 2010, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rolesor

I didn't know you could adjust the DSSD while it was still on the wrist - that is awesome!

yeap adjust it 'on the fly'.

sparky_magoo · 14 July 2010, 12:40 AM

My wrist expands and contracts with temp. chages. I love adjusting the Glidelock on my DSSD for a comfortable fit. I have never liked bracelets until now because they never fit. My Sub. has a vintage Tropic strap. I love the DSSD so much that the Sub is retired.

psv · 14 July 2010, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Atomant

Why don't Rolex use the DSSD glidelock clasp on the new ceramic sub as well instead of using two different one?

One watch is the ultimate dive watch and costs $2,000 more - they have to differentiate somehow. I'm glad they did.

Atomant · 14 July 2010, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by psv

One watch is the ultimate dive watch and costs $2,000 more - they have to differentiate somehow. I'm glad they did.

MagedMS · 14 July 2010, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayo

I have the new Sub and the Deepsea! The Deepsea is more practical! You can make it wider or tighter while wearing it and you can do so by just adding milimeters! It is great! You have to take off the Sub for that! You can see, that the Deepsea is more sophisticated and it doesn't seem or feel less reliable, so Deepsea is the better Glidelock for me!

X2.. Agreed.. That's why the DSSD is more professional !

Tony-GB · 14 July 2010, 02:47 AM

Can the DS glidelock be fitted to the new sub?

Clogger · 14 July 2010, 03:05 AM

The DSSD is designed to fit over a hot water suit for diving, hence the extra length on the clasp, the sub isn't.

psv · 14 July 2010, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony-GB

Can the DS glidelock be fitted to the new sub?

You mean just the glidelock clasp? Because the lug-width of the DSSD is 21mm vs 20mm for the Sub-C so one cannot swap the whole bracelet.

RLX-lvr · 14 July 2010, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by psv

You mean just the glidelock clasp? Because the lug-width of the DSSD is 21mm vs 20mm for the Sub-C so one cannot swap the whole bracelet.

I thought the ssdd wad 20mm, no?

Jayo · 21 July 2010, 04:13 PM

Deepsea 21mm
Submariner 20mm

Zed Homme · 21 July 2010, 04:25 PM

The extension found in the 16610 was put in place to accommodate a wetsuit. However, wetsuits come in different thicknesses and therefore having that fine adjustment is most useful in case you dont want to work on your bracelet in between dives...

Zirotti · 20 August 2010, 04:34 AM

Yeah, that is the one thing that peeves me about the new Sub. I miss being able to adjust the bracelet on the wrist like I could with the DSSD.

Johny · 20 August 2010, 04:40 AM

does the sub c bracelet fit to the 16610?

13 July 2010, 03:51 AM	#1
EchoBlueUK "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,543	Glidelock Vs errr...Glidelock As there are 2 types of glidelock clasps, DSSD & New Sub it got me thinking: what is the point of the DSSD glidelock? Are there any advantages over the sub's? The only one i can think of is that it maybe easier to adjust the dssd's whilst on the wrist or is it just a necessity of design because of the diver extension? I know both are great pieces of engineering - the dssd's arguably more so as its more complex but surely the sub's will prove to be more reliable over time due to the fewer moving parts? Any thoughts guys?

13 July 2010, 07:18 PM	#5
Atomant "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Fernwood Posts: 3,455	Why don't Rolex use the DSSD glidelock clasp on the new ceramic sub as well instead of using two different one? __________________ 116613LN 16600SD 16610LV 116710 16710 16570 Speedy 3570.50 PAM25 Oris TT1 and a bunch of G-Shocks. Flipped: Daytona 116520 Seamaster 2231.80

14 July 2010, 12:34 AM	#10
Rolesor "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Brandon Location: Toronto, ON Watch: 116234 Posts: 4,150	I didn't know you could adjust the DSSD while it was still on the wrist - that is awesome! __________________ 116234 - Blue Concentric Dial - Fluted Bezel - Oyster Bracelet Tudor Black Bay 54 - Rubber Strap

14 July 2010, 02:47 AM	#16
Tony-GB "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: Oxfordshire, UK Watch: 116680 & 116622 Posts: 3,953	Can the DS glidelock be fitted to the new sub? __________________ "...why oh why, didn't I take the blue pill...?" http://www.helenanddouglas.org.uk/ www.cheetah.org

20 August 2010, 04:40 AM	#23
Johny "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: john Location: Scotland Watch: sub 16610Lv Posts: 13,523	does the sub c bracelet fit to the 16610? __________________ "AFTER DARK" BAR AND NIGHT CLUB GM.

13 July 2010, 05:12 PM	#3
EchoBlueUK "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,543	Anyone?

13 July 2010, 05:27 PM	#4
Jayo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Out there Posts: 22	I have the new Sub and the Deepsea! The Deepsea is more practical! You can make it wider or tighter while wearing it and you can do so by just adding milimeters! It is great! You have to take off the Sub for that! You can see, that the Deepsea is more sophisticated and it doesn't seem or feel less reliable, so Deepsea is the better Glidelock for me!

13 July 2010, 07:25 PM	#6
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	To distinguish the watches ? Not to have many interchangeable parts . Why does Rolex not make a jubilee bracelet for the DJ2 ? Maybe not to confuse it with a DD? Rolex works in mysterious ways

13 July 2010, 07:56 PM	#7
Jayo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Out there Posts: 22	I think they just want to have one real professional dive watch and that is the Deepsea, so they put the more professional bezel on it and the better Glidelock! And the Deepsea Glidelock is longer, so it fits the bigger watch better!

14 July 2010, 12:40 AM	#12
sparky_magoo Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Mark Location: RENO Watch: Deep Sea Posts: 64	My wrist expands and contracts with temp. chages. I love adjusting the Glidelock on my DSSD for a comfortable fit. I have never liked bracelets until now because they never fit. My Sub. has a vintage Tropic strap. I love the DSSD so much that the Sub is retired.

14 July 2010, 03:05 AM	#17
Clogger Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: SE Asia Watch: SS Sub Date Posts: 431	The DSSD is designed to fit over a hot water suit for diving, hence the extra length on the clasp, the sub isn't.

21 July 2010, 04:13 PM	#20
Jayo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Out there Posts: 22	Deepsea 21mm Submariner 20mm

21 July 2010, 04:25 PM	#21
Zed Homme "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: usa Watch: Rolex Posts: 6,962	The extension found in the 16610 was put in place to accommodate a wetsuit. However, wetsuits come in different thicknesses and therefore having that fine adjustment is most useful in case you dont want to work on your bracelet in between dives...

20 August 2010, 04:34 AM	#22
Zirotti "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: Tejas Watch: Invicta Posts: 1,066	Yeah, that is the one thing that peeves me about the new Sub. I miss being able to adjust the bracelet on the wrist like I could with the DSSD.

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