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30 January 2011, 07:09 AM
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Check out the bid history of this Tudor Sub
what are you supposed to think when you see this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Tudor-Submariner...item2eb2c758a8 |
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30 January 2011, 07:13 AM
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shill bidding!
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30 January 2011, 08:38 AM
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30 January 2011, 09:12 AM
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Real Name: Dallas Wottlin
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what is shill bidding? I'm confused?
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30 January 2011, 09:13 AM
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Banned
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Another word for cheating on eBay?
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30 January 2011, 09:36 AM
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What's the giveaway that it was shill? Love to learn how to spot these bids...?
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30 January 2011, 10:44 AM
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The most consistent bidder (who ended up winning) has an ebay rating of zero.
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30 January 2011, 11:32 AM
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Shill bidding??????????????????
As a person who has been going to auctions for 32 years and using eBay for 12 years I can’t see how you could say with any certainty that there has been shill bidding in this case.
It could just be a case of a new ebayer getting excited/not really understanding eBay and bidding foolishly. I am not saying for sure that is the case either way. I sure wouldnt bet my house on either being true. Who gives a pigs ass anyway !!!!!!!!!! Some of us need to find better things to do than worry about such things that dont even effect us !!!!! Remember any system can be manipulated !!!! Pay what you want to pay = no problems. Last edited by oinkitt; 30 January 2011 at 11:33 AM.. Reason: spelling |
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30 January 2011, 11:38 AM
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It's been shilled by the zero feedback bidder, probably the seller himself!
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30 January 2011, 01:32 PM
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He needs to learn how to do it....could have sold for a decent price.....I bid against a shill (didn't know what it was called) bidder once and let him have it to himself 3 minutes before the end
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30 January 2011, 01:57 PM
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It sold for $2300. Whether it was a shill bidder or not, the selling price is reasonable and a very fair price.
I tend to agree with some of the other posts here, that when I see a lot of "0" feedback bids, it is usually a big red flag to me.
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30 January 2011, 03:09 PM
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Adrian Oinkitt said; "Some of us need to find better things to do than worry about such things that dont even effect us !!!!!"
I find your comment rude... or maybe you dont understand how auctions work. how do you know i was unaffected? if you were interested in bidding on the item, would you consider yourself unaffected? i have an idea for something better you can do with your time; how about determine if Australia has laws against shill bidding an auction. |
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30 January 2011, 03:11 PM
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then check out the watch on Timezone marketplace priced at 2400.
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30 January 2011, 03:38 PM
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If you dont like the game - get out of it !!!!!!!!! I again state - THERE IS NO CONCLUSIVE EVEDENCE THAT SHILL BIDDING HAS OCCURED IN THIS INSTANCE !!!!!!! If you KNOW different perhaps you can tell me the winning numbers in lotto next week !!!!! What if your so called "shill" bidder had 203 auctions under his belt - you still couldnt say for sure weather it had been shilled or not. Hell I am glad im not charged with murdering my wife, with you on the jury !!! |
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30 January 2011, 04:16 PM
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I am not surprised that you did not answer my questions. This is further "evedence" as you put it that you do not understand how auctions function. (after 35 years?)
I sincerely hope that all your future ebay endeavors involve being outbid by 0 rated bidders. then i hope you see the seller on a board offering the watch for slightly more. cheers |
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30 January 2011, 04:35 PM
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You can not be 100% sure this listing has been shilled Its a pitty I dont understand how an auction works considering I spend over 500k at auction every year. I dont care if anyone outbids me, even if its the vender!!! You should also have the same attitude. If the item has been shilled, you were never going to get it for your price - go on to the next one, and get over it !!!!!!!!! |
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30 January 2011, 05:45 PM
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I am amazed that two strangers can be so rude to each other over such a trivial matter !
Lighten up gentlemen , watch forums do not exist for grown men to indulge in such petty rudeness. I'm off to chapel now , God bless you all ! |
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30 January 2011, 06:28 PM
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I am trying to point out one should only make claims they can substantiate. |
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30 January 2011, 08:31 PM
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Guys this is TRF and what goes on on ebay should stop on ebay its that simple topic closed..
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