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Old 4 April 2011, 10:30 AM   #1
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Panerai at europe is more cheaper?
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Panerai watch collector,my friend said Europe was selling more cheaper than other contry
TRUE????
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Old 4 April 2011, 10:33 AM   #2
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Huh?
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Old 4 April 2011, 10:38 AM   #3
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Huh?
He's asking if they are cheaper in Europe.
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Old 4 April 2011, 10:49 AM   #4
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He's asking if they are cheaper in Europe.
Ah! Thanks Mon!
Not sure if that 'rumor' is true or not.

Maybe Eric, Dan, Mik or Chris can shed some light on this.
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Old 4 April 2011, 10:59 AM   #5
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I guess I need to catch a flight.
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Old 4 April 2011, 11:45 AM   #6
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I was in Italy twice last year. When the dollar was peaking against the euro, it was cheaper (if you subtract the VAT that we get refunded) When I went back later in the year, when the dollar slipped, so it wasn't.

I ended up buying a JV strap from the Florence boutique and paid $261.98 after exchange and refunded VAT. I'm not interested in buying a watch from Europe and having to get stuck paying duty on my return.
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Old 4 April 2011, 11:52 AM   #7
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i think Europe is less expensive.. on another forum a member listed this years new price list and they were increased supposedly... my pam 341 retail there is 19,000.00 euro which in USD is 28,328.99 and this price is after the European price increase for 2011 and here in the US before our new price increase which hasnt hit yet is currently a bit over $29,000.00..

which means if i went to Europe about 5 months ago i could have saved a grand if i bought my watch there.

all of these prices are in euro and are the new 2011 price list:

PAM00000 LUMINOR BASE LOGO - 44MM 3000
PAM00005 LUMINOR MARINA LOGO - 44MM 3300
PAM00112 LUMINOR BASE - 44MM 3800
PAM00114 LUMINOR BASE - 44MM 3800
PAM00176 LUMINOR BASE TITANIO - 44MM 4200
PAM00219 LUMINOR BASE LEFT-HANDED - 44MM 4500
PAM00111 LUMINOR MARINA - 44MM 4100
PAM00113 LUMINOR MARINA - 44MM 4100
PAM00177 LUMINOR MARINA TITANIO - 44MM 4500
PAM00183 RADIOMIR BLACK SEAL - 45MM 4100
PAM00210 RADIOMIR - 45MM 3800
PAM00231 RADIOMIR ORO ROSA - 45MM 10900
PAM00292 RADIOMIR BLACK SEAL CERAMICA - 45MM 5800

PAM00336 RADIOMIR ORO ROSA - 42MM 12100
PAM00337 RADIOMIR - 42MM 5100
PAM00338 RADIOMIR TITANIO - 42MM 5600

PAM00233 LUMINOR 1950 8 DAYS GMT - 44MM 9900
PAM00289 LUMINOR 1950 8 DAYS GMT ORO ROSA - 44MM 20400
PAM00268 RADIOMIR 8 DAYS - 45MM 8200
PAM00346 RADIOMIR 8 DAYS TITANIO - 45MM 9400

PAM00104 LUMINOR MARINA AUTOMATIC - 44MM 4700
PAM00164 LUMINOR MARINA AUTOMATIC - 44MM 4700
PAM00299 LUMINOR MARINA AUTOMATIC - 44MM 5200
PAM00240 LUMINOR MARINA AUTOMATIC TITANIO - 44MM 5100
PAM00296 LUMINOR MARINA AUTOMATIC TITANIO - 44MM 5800

PAM00024 LUMINOR SUBMERSIBLE - 44MM 4900
PAM00025 LUMINOR SUBMERSIBLE TITANIO - 44MM 5300
PAM00243 LUMINOR SUBMERSIBLE 1950 1000M - 44MM 6300

PAM00088 LUMINOR GMT - 44MM 5300
PAM00161 LUMINOR GMT TITANIO - 44MM 6700
PAM00297 LUMINOR GMT - 44MM 5800

PAM00090 LUMINOR POWER RESERVE - 44MM 5400
PAM00171 LUMINOR POWER RESERVE TITANIO - 44MM 6800

PAM00250 LUMINOR CHRONO DAYLIGHT - 44MM 6000
PAM00251 LUMINOR CHRONO DAYLIGHT - 44MM 6000
PAM00326 LUMINOR CHRONO DAYLIGHT TITANIO - 44MM 6400
PAM00327 LUMINOR CHRONO DAYLIGHT TITANIO - 44MM 7200
PAM00310 LUMINOR CHRONOGRAPH 40MM - 5900
PAM00212 LUMINOR 1950 FLYBACK - 44MM 7900
PAM00213 LUMINOR 1950 RATTRAPANTE - 44MM 9800
PAM00361 LUMINOR 1950 FLYBACK - 44MM 6700
PAM00362 LUMINOR 1950 RATTRAPANTE - 44MM 8900

PAM00049 LUMINOR MARINA AUTOMATIC - 40MM 4600
PAM00048 LUMINOR MARINA AUTOMATIC - 40MM 4600
PAM00298 LUMINOR MARINA AUTOMATIC - 40MM 4900
PAM00050 LUMINOR MARINA AUTOMATIC - 40MM 5400
PAM00051 LUMINOR MARINA AUTOMATIC - 40MM 5400
PAM00282 LUMINOR MARINA AUTOMATIC TITANIO - 40MM 4900
PAM00283 LUMINOR MARINA AUTOMATIC TITANIO - 40MM 6100
PAM00333 LUMINOR MARINA AUTOMATIC TITANIO - 40MM 5500

PAM00241 LUMINOR POWER RESERVE - 40MM 5000

PAM00244 LUMINOR GMT - 40MM 5200

PAM00287 RADIOMIR BLACK SEAL AUTOMATIC - 45MM 4600
PAM00288 RADIOMIR CHRONOGRAPH - 45MM 5800
PAM00355 RADIOMIR GMT/ALARM - 42MM 7300
PAM00312 LUMINOR MARINA 1950 3 DAYS AUTOMATIC - 44MM 5400
PAM00359 LUMINOR MARINA 1950 3 DAYS AUTOMATIC - 44MM 5400
PAM00328 LUMINOR MARINA 1950 3 DAYS AUTOMATIC - 44MM 5900
PAM00351 LUMINOR MARINA 1950 3 DAYS AUTOMATIC TITANIO - 44MM 5800
PAM00352 LUMINOR MARINA 1950 3 DAYS AUTOMATIC TITANIO - 44MM 6500
PAM00305 LUMINOR SUBMERSIBLE 1950 3 DAYS AUTOMATIC TITANIO - 47MM 6600
PAM00320 LUMINOR 1950 3 DAYS GMT AUTOMATIC - 44MM 6400
PAM00329 LUMINOR 1950 3 DAYS GMT AUTOMATIC - 44MM 6900
PAM00321 LUMINOR 1950 3 DAYS GMT POWER RESERVE AUTOMATIC - 44MM 6500
PAM00347 LUMINOR 1950 3 DAYS GMT POWER RESERVE AUTOMATIC - 44MM 7000
PAM00270 LUMINOR 1950 10 DAYS GMT - 44MM 11600
PAM00335 LUMINOR 1950 10 DAYS GMT CERAMICA - 44MM 13500
PAM00323 RADIOMIR 10 DAYS GMT - 47MM 10200

PAM00275 LUMINOR 1950 CHRONO MONOPULSANTE 8 DAYS GMT - 44MM 12900
PAM00311 LUMINOR 1950 CHRONO MONOPULSANTE 8 DAYS GMT TITANIO - 44MM 14500
PAM00317 LUMINOR 1950 CHRONO MONOPULSANTE 8 DAYS GMT CERAMICA - 44MM 17300
PAM00306 LUMINOR 1950 TOURBILLON GMT TITANIO - 47MM 87000
PAM00315 RADIOMIR TOURBILLON GMT TITANIO - 48MM 87000
PAM00316 RADIOMIR TOURBILLON GMT PLATINO - 48MM 99000
PAM00330 RADIOMIR TOURBILLON GMT ORO ROSA - 48MM 96000
PAM00319 LUMINOR 1950 RATTRAPANTE 8 DAYS ORO ROSA - 47MM 29900
PAM00344 LUMINOR 1950 CHRONO MONOPULSANTE 8 DAYS ORO ROSA - 44MM 24000
PAM00277 LUMINOR 1950 CHRONO MONOPULSANTE 8 DAYS ORO ROSA - 44MM 23500
PAM00348 LO SCIENZIATO 115000
PAM00350 LO SCIENZIATO 115000

PAM00339 RADIOMIR COMPOSITE MARINA MILITARE 8 GIORNI - 47MM 9900
PAM00343 RADIOMIR REGATTA ONE/EIGHT SECOND TITANIO - 47MM 11900
PAM00029 LUMINOR GMT - 44MM 5100
PAM00300 MARE NOSTRUM - 52MM 25900
PAM00307 LUMINOR 1950 PANGAEA DEPTH GAUGE 11900
PAM00341 L'EGIZIANO 19900
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Old 4 April 2011, 11:56 AM   #8
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so all in all, i would think US is more money on pams based on the info i provided which really shocked me when i saw these new euro prices and many models have raised in price according to this price list, but are still less money when converted to USD and compared to current US pricing.. does anyone have any word when the US price increase will hit for this year?
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Old 4 April 2011, 12:51 PM   #9
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i think Europe is less expensive.. on another forum a member listed this years new price list and they were increased supposedly... my pam 341 retail there is 19,000.00 euro which in USD is 28,328.99 and this price is after the European price increase for 2011 and here in the US before our new price increase which hasnt hit yet is currently a bit over $29,000.00..

which means if i went to Europe about 5 months ago i could have saved a grand if i bought my watch there.
Assuming the exchange was $28,329.99, you would have made out... not significantly, but still. I imagine you would have charged it (AMEX charges 2.7%) plus you pay duty upon return ($800 exemption and 10% on anything over that) Your total amount would look something like this:

$ 28,329.99 (USD)
+ $ 537.30 (AMEX international transaction fee)
- $ 3,980.00 (VAT Refunded)
+ $ 2,752.99 (Duty upon arriving in US)
= $ 27,640.28
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Old 5 April 2011, 05:21 AM   #10
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yeah, that really is an amazing price... i cannot believe the difference in msrp
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