Another scam in the works

[Runnin' Rebel]

The e-mail address:This sender is DomainKeys verified
"T.B, Abacus" <[email protected].

How careful I was I thought. Thank god I used American Express.
Payment went through goggle check out. No response after they received
the payment. No response at all. $4900.00

[Rolex116520]

Hope you will recuperate your money through AMEX . Is this seller on Ebay ? TRF ? Somewhere else ?

[Runnin' Rebel]

Originally Posted by Rolex116520

Hope you will recuperate your money through AMEX . Is this seller on Ebay ? TRF ? Somewhere else ?

After posting in TRF under the watches wanted section, I was contacted by this
POS. I took all the precautions, even calling AMX to make sure I was covered
if it was fraud. Google Check Out said since I contacted American Express for a charge back they are out of this problem now, now goggle check out can go
F themselves, never again will I use Goggle check out.

PEACE

[Rolex116520]

This seems to be the latest fashion . We have had many reports of scams or attempted scams after people post WTB adds lately . These scammer must roam all the forums for WTB adds and propose the potential buyers what they want .

[bayerische]

Hopefully Amex will save your money! Sorry to hear about this. Lots of scams lately...

[jeff hess]

Katrina Hess here:

Contact your local police for economic crimes file a report generally can be done online.
follow up and provide the ICCC with all the pertinent data including police report number, google checkout data and transaction number let Amex and google checkout know you have done so.

http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

You have the data as does google checkout.

law enforcement takes these things seriously they cannot catch the bad guys if we don't give law enforcement the proper tools to do so.

Katrina Hess

[greekbum]

Katrina good stuff and thanks for sharing this.

[captirwin]

Originally Posted by jeff hess

Katrina Hess here:

Contact your local police for economic crimes file a report generally can be done online.
follow up and provide the ICCC with all the pertinent data including police report number, google checkout data and transaction number let Amex and google checkout know you have done so.

http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

You have the data as does google checkout.

law enforcement takes these things seriously they cannot catch the bad guys if we don't give law enforcement the proper tools to do so.

Katrina Hess

Good Stuff...Thanks.

[Runnin' Rebel]

Originally Posted by jeff hess

Katrina Hess here:

Contact your local police for economic crimes file a report generally can be done online.
follow up and provide the ICCC with all the pertinent data including police report number, google checkout data and transaction number let Amex and google checkout know you have done so.

http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

You have the data as does google checkout.

law enforcement takes these things seriously they cannot catch the bad guys if we don't give law enforcement the proper tools to do so.

Katrina Hess

Thank you, I will follow through on this.

[Runnin' Rebel]

Here's the help that I received ( didn't receive ) through Goggle Checkout
No help from them, they can Ki$$ my a$$, never will I use them again.


I understand that you've contacted your credit card issuing bank regarding
Google Order #402********.

Once a chargeback has been filed, both Google and the seller are unable to
take action on your request. Please continue to work with your bank
because they are now responsible for determining the outcome of your
dispute. Procedures and turnaround times may vary depending on your bank,
so please contact your bank representative for further details.

Sincerely,

Taylor
The Google Checkout Team

[jeff hess]

Jagervegas,

This is correct once your bankcard is involved no other entity has authority over the funds.

Have you filed a police report at this time? Have you also filed with the IC3 link I posted? These two things will assist you with your bankcard chargeback. If you haven't done so yet and figured you are gonna be made whole by the CC company you are letting the scammer go ahead and scam others.

So make your police report, make the IC3 report, get this additional information to the bankcard company they will take you more seriously, your funds will be returned faster and the scammers info will be on law enforcements lists. Do not underestimate the power that this gives you in the long run.

From misdemeanors reports often future felony cases are built.

Katrina Hess

[Runnin' Rebel]

Originally Posted by jeff hess

Jagervegas,

This is correct once your bankcard is involved no other entity has authority over the funds.

Have you filed a police report at this time? Have you also filed with the IC3 link I posted? These two things will assist you with your bankcard chargeback. If you haven't done so yet and figured you are gonna be made whole by the CC company you are letting the scammer go ahead and scam others.

So make your police report, make the IC3 report, get this additional information to the bankcard company they will take you more seriously, your funds will be returned faster and the scammers info will be on law enforcements lists. Do not underestimate the power that this gives you in the long run.

From misdemeanors reports often future felony cases are built.

Katrina Hess

Thank you for your insight

[Runnin' Rebel]

He's at it again, this time on craigs list...

[TempoKing]

Originally Posted by jeff hess

Katrina Hess here:

Contact your local police for economic crimes file a report generally can be done online.
follow up and provide the ICCC with all the pertinent data including police report number, google checkout data and transaction number let Amex and google checkout know you have done so.

http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

You have the data as does google checkout.

law enforcement takes these things seriously they cannot catch the bad guys if we don't give law enforcement the proper tools to do so.

Katrina Hess

Dear Katrina
All of the above is hog-wash in my opinion
I do not think Law enforcement or anyone in authority
takes watch scams seriously.

I will give you an example
Jeff Hess introduced the scammer Tristan Bouchez to Sothebys
so he can sell his watch in an auction.
When I told Jeff Hess....Tristan scammed me - there was nothing
he could do - and rightly so....He simply said...in a way I was scammed
by Tristan as well.?

I wrote to the Spanish police that he is a scammer and gave them all info

I e-mailed the electronic crime police in Spain that he is a scammer

I Wrote to his bank enclosing all the info
and told them that he is using his account there to scam Rolex buyers

I told Sothebys not to pay him because he is a scammer

I wrote to his town police where he lives and explained how he scams his friends

My Spanish lawyer was not able to do anything because
this was a small claim

My local (in his area) small town lawyer could not bring him to the
small claims court because he could not deliver a summons to him (unknown).

No one in authority gave a damn - no one wrote me back

But I do give a damn !
and I will not rest untill he pays me back !

...I know you are reading this ...Tristan-garbage of a man ?

[mastermixer]

This guy just called me! He said he buys unclaimed safety deposit boxes and sometimes gets Rolex's and that he has a M serial TT Sub. He sounded sketchy,I got his email address [email protected] and typed it in to Google and it came to this page!

[Dan2000]

I say, flood his email with hi-res pictures or videos or sign the bastard up to porn sites so he gets spammed!

[Runnin' Rebel]

ATTENTION KIDS...American Express has credited my account the 4900.00 this pile of steaming SHITstole from me, they credit my account the money stolen. I filed with ICCC, AMX and GOOGLE check out, maybe it helped. Bad news is he's at it again, so be careful !!

Thanks to TRF and all it's members for helping me.

Now, whose got the WG Blue I want, must be a trusted seller, or course:f lypg::bi ggrin:

[Runnin' Rebel]

They do have him in their sites, shouldn't be to long

[Gaijin]

Good news..

[AJMarcus]

Thanks for sharing and glad it worked out for you with AmEx.

[jeff hess]

Congrats. We find that AMEX is the best for getting your money back.

Amex is very fair minded and when you have back-up proof they will actually listen to you and ACT in your favor.