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HL65 · 29 July 2011, 09:31 AM

I wanted to post this as I came across a watch for sale: A 5512 that had a fake dial. The dial is made and sold in China by Yukiwatch Co. Fortunately the watch is not for sale here on TRF but nonetheless you have to be super careful and especially when buying vintage. I will stress once again that you have got to buy the seller and only deal with people with stellar reputations!
Here is the watch that was for sale and below is an ad for the fake dial from their website. The watch that was advertised is a 5512 and asking price was $5600. Again-be careful out there and do your homework!

toph · 29 July 2011, 09:38 AM

it is scary, i mean to me it looks relumed and no more and if a seller was selling at relumed i really really would not know any better. As you say, that swhy i always always buy teh seller

HL65 · 29 July 2011, 09:56 AM

If you look at the spacing between the M- A- R in SUBMARINER you will notice the large spacing. Also the strange looking lume. Again- BUY THE SELLER!!! and DO YOUR HOMEWORK!!

rolexpawn · 29 July 2011, 10:00 AM

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To me, the dial jumps right out as fake.

HL65 · 29 July 2011, 10:05 AM

Also- Notice bottom of the fake dial the S and 5 don't fit between 28 and 32 minute markers and in fact it sits above. Below is a real dial for a comparison. Again look at SUBMARINER spacing versus fake above. Again- BUY THE SELLER and DO YOU HOMEWORK!! Cheers.....

TSts · 29 July 2011, 10:08 AM

Thanks for that, definitely buy the seller!

mrbill2mrbill2 · 29 July 2011, 10:58 AM

Wow! You are right on this.

subtona · 29 July 2011, 11:04 AM

thanks for the education

sadly, the counterfeiter also gets educated

mcjp6 · 29 July 2011, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

sold in China by Yukiwatch Co

Excellent call and thanks for spotting Dan.....There is no question at all that this is fake....

Be careful here.....this seller is your enemy and has an infamous history on TRF

(http://50.30.33.71/~trfcom/search.php?searchid=4149351).

Everything he sells on his own websites (he has several) and on ebay (he has several id's) is counterfeit.

keep well clear.......

Is the link an ebay listing Dan??

rolexpawn · 29 July 2011, 11:03 PM

[QUOTE=the counterfeiter also gets educated

[/QUOTE]

They are not that smart, no matter what trash they put out it will never be like the real deal.

mcjp6 · 29 July 2011, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolexpawn

They are not that smart, no matter what trash they put out it will never be like the real deal.

But be careful Chester........some of their work is very good and some of it is very much like the real deal. I am just saying this seller is a guaranteed scammer.... be very careful.

rolexpawn · 29 July 2011, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcjp6

But be careful Chester........some of their work is very good and some of it is very much like the real deal. I am just saying this seller is a guaranteed scammer.... be very careful.

I agree a small percent does good work, to bad they do not start their own company and things would be a lot easier. I have to authenticate used Rolex watches, so I am always on my guard looking at every detail of the watch. Thankfully I have reference material to guide me when I need it.

onkyo · 29 July 2011, 11:50 PM

As Michael said above, YukiWatch also sells on quite a bit on eBay ..... "professionally refinished dials". So be careful out there and know what (and who) you are buying. You do not want to be stuck with this junk!

Michael M. · 29 July 2011, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onkyo

As Michael said above, YukiWatch also sells on quite a bit on eBay ..... "professionally refinished dials". So be careful out there and know what (and who) you are buying. You do not want to be stuck with this junk!

You mean ND Trading, they buy from Yuki.

Looks like a fake dial, but thanks for the heads up Ken

subtona · 30 July 2011, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolexpawn

They are not that smart, no matter what trash they put out it will never be like the real deal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolexpawn

I agree a small percent does good work...

I have to authenticate used Rolex watches, so I am always on my guard looking at every detail of the watch.

Thankfully I have reference material to guide me when I need it.

29 July 2011, 09:31 AM	#1
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,006	Be very careful out there: Warning on fake dials... I wanted to post this as I came across a watch for sale: A 5512 that had a fake dial. The dial is made and sold in China by Yukiwatch Co. Fortunately the watch is not for sale here on TRF but nonetheless you have to be super careful and especially when buying vintage. I will stress once again that you have got to buy the seller and only deal with people with stellar reputations! Here is the watch that was for sale and below is an ad for the fake dial from their website. The watch that was advertised is a 5512 and asking price was $5600. Again-be careful out there and do your homework! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

29 July 2011, 09:38 AM	#2
toph "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: ChrisTOPHer Location: Sydney Watch: Rolex, Brellum, Posts: 12,601	it is scary, i mean to me it looks relumed and no more and if a seller was selling at relumed i really really would not know any better. As you say, that swhy i always always buy teh seller __________________ "Where no counsel is the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." Member No.# 11795

29 July 2011, 09:56 AM	#3
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,006	If you look at the spacing between the M- A- R in SUBMARINER you will notice the large spacing. Also the strange looking lume. Again- BUY THE SELLER!!! and DO YOUR HOMEWORK!! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

29 July 2011, 10:05 AM	#5
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,006	Also- Notice bottom of the fake dial the S and 5 don't fit between 28 and 32 minute markers and in fact it sits above. Below is a real dial for a comparison. Again look at SUBMARINER spacing versus fake above. Again- BUY THE SELLER and DO YOU HOMEWORK!! Cheers..... __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

29 July 2011, 10:08 AM	#6
TSts "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: So-Cal USA Posts: 1,067	Thanks for that, definitely buy the seller! __________________ 116710LN 116300blro

29 July 2011, 10:00 AM	#4
rolexpawn Banned Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Chester Location: Bolton UK Watch: my Rolex(s) Posts: 479	To me, the dial jumps right out as fake.

29 July 2011, 10:58 AM	#7
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	Wow! You are right on this. __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

29 July 2011, 11:04 AM	#8
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,599	thanks for the education sadly, the counterfeiter also gets educated __________________

29 July 2011, 11:03 PM	#10
rolexpawn Banned Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Chester Location: Bolton UK Watch: my Rolex(s) Posts: 479	[QUOTE=the counterfeiter also gets educated[/QUOTE] They are not that smart, no matter what trash they put out it will never be like the real deal.

29 July 2011, 11:50 PM	#13
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	As Michael said above, YukiWatch also sells on quite a bit on eBay ..... "professionally refinished dials". So be careful out there and know what (and who) you are buying. You do not want to be stuck with this junk!

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