Rolex Datejust - Two Tone - Gold face 16233 - SERIAL : W307383 (STOLEN/SCAMMED)

[li21]

Hi all

This guy bought a Rolex watch from me on ebay.
His payment via paypal showed up in my account.
I withdrew the funds thinking i've got clear funds. about 4k

Then I went to deliver the watch in person.
He was short a little bit , but he made up all these docs to say he would pay me the rest back on this day, signed by JP with his drivers license and a copy of his credit card. I was happy to let him pay the small amount later/

When I got home the paypal payment was withheld and reversed. I called paypal to ask why and they said it came from suspicious funding source. ie. credit card fraud.

Went to the cops..
Found out the JP stamp was a fake, the drivers license was not him.
The car : Holden Commodore (2004 ish model) in Dark Grey/Silver was a Rental from Hertz Rentals Cars. They are working on it and i gave them his mobile no.

Went to paypal.. Paypal will not offer me Seller protection as I didn't mail the item with a tracking no. I mean seriously ? He lives in the next suburb, why would I use post? Anyways it sucks.. They just wont offer me the victim any protection at all.. Anyone experienced this?

I also tried to contact the guy in the license who he claimed to be. his phone was off. Googling I managed to find someone with the same surname and same address. I called her but she refused to comment about anything which was strange. I was only trying to help incase her husband/bro has his identity stolen.

About the guy:

He is Cantonese Chinese (so from Hong Kong)
Speaks perfect English with no hint of accent. Just your typical non heavily accented Australian. (can't tell he is asian by voice)
He was last seen in near Chatswood Chase, Sydney.
He must live 10-15 mins from Chatwood as it took him only that amount of time to get from where he was to meeting spot in that time.
About mid 20's

And here's the kicker.. after many sms back and fourth asking him to return the watch.. he admitted to doing alot more credit card fraud / phishing and gloated about never being caught.
So I want justice.

I know its not much to go on, but if you recognize the guy please let me know for reward if I can locate him.
I mean, he's not quite generic / conservative looking.

Thanks for reading.

[swatty]

Sorry to hear this, just to clarify, you withdrew funds from paypal and they want you to pay it back?
Paypal seems to be a the centre of a lot of scams

[MonBK]

Is that him/her in the picture?
Shouldn't be too hard to find an ugly looking mug like that.
I hope they catch that scumbag oriental fast.

[li21]

Originally Posted by swatty

Sorry to hear this, just to clarify, you withdrew funds from paypal and they want you to pay it back?
Paypal seems to be a the centre of a lot of scams

Yeh ! Paypal withdrawals generally take about 3-4 days to hit my account, but I got a message that confirmed the withdrawal was being reversed out the next day

[crowncollection]

I am very sorry to hear that paypal offers no protection for sellers, they say you get protection i seriously doubt it, they will find some loop hole in those pages you never fully read in terms and conditions, they always side with buyers. Good luck I hope you catch him.

[li21]

Yep that's the guy! should be easy to spot if he shows up around town..

Thanks guys, will update this thread if I have any news

[Rolex Junky]

Sorry for your loss. Hope this gets resolved quickly and that he gets to do time. With a baby face like that I'm sure convicts will be lining up in jail to molest him.

[robertneville]

did you get any emails from this guy? might be able to at least track where they were sent from. pm me if you want details.

[dysondiver]

good picture too , the police may have something on record ,,, is there a crime watch type of show , they may post the mugshot , tv interest or local paper story , anything that would show the picture. local chineese social club or the likes.
fingers crossed you get a result

[RolexWatcher]

That POS. Hope the police can catch this thief!

[conrail]

Originally Posted by MonBK

Is that him/her in the picture?
Shouldn't be too hard to find an ugly looking mug like that.
I hope they catch that scumbag oriental fast.

Haha yea seriously!

[alexthegreat123]

What's his Ebay ID?

[cajunron]

I may be wrong, but if PP posted the funds and you withdrew the money already, why should YOU take the hit? It seems like PP is the party that made the mistake, not YOU. I know that they can send you to collections, but damn. That just don't seem right to me. "Oh, we're sorry, we made a mistake! Send us our money back!" I don't think so!

[Andelain]

Hope you get the money or your watch back, OP. Damn I hate thieves!

[toph]

Very sorry to hear this, i live about 10 mins from Chatswood in Wollstonecraft/Crows nest, you never know he might just pop up as he is quite a distinctive looker shall we say;)
paypal is a joke, hate them in so many ways.
If someone wants to meet to do a deal, i always think if they pay or want to pay by paypal it is just odd.. and what happened is why.
and good luck

[toph]

also what name did he give you and what is his ebay id?