Pam 292

[eric23]

Good Day All,

Does anyone know the current list price for a PAM 292? Do they still make it? How many a year?

Thanks for all your help,

Eric

[Rollie2011]

Eric,
I wish I could help you on that one.
I will say this, the 292 is gorgeous!

[sushisummo]

MSRP is $9200 and I believe they are still making it.

[bcacncnc]

Hi Eric. I've been doing some research on the 292 lately too. Some interesting things I found out was that the case is made out of ceramic but the bezel and buckle are of the less durable PVD. I'm not 100% sure this is accurate though but I was concerned about scratches with the less durable PVD technology.

[eric23]

Originally Posted by sushisummo

MSRP is $9200 and I believe they are still making it.

Thanks JT

[eric23]

Originally Posted by bcacncnc

Hi Eric. I've been doing some research on the 292 lately too. Some interesting things I found out was that the case is made out of ceramic but the bezel and buckle are of the less durable PVD. I'm not 100% sure this is accurate though but I was concerned about scratches with the less durable PVD technology.

The case back and buckle are PVD, it does scratch but so does everything else.
I am not sure about the bezel. I will try one on tomorrow.

[Fearsome Puppy]

Eric, you're correct, it's the case back, buckle and screws that are PVD. Though it's only really the screws that are the issue with scratching off the PVD coating. Good luck in your hunt...

[mfer]

Originally Posted by eric23

The case back and buckle are PVD, it does scratch but so does everything else.
I am not sure about the bezel. I will try one on tomorrow.

Bezel is ceramic per Micah.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/35339...for+292+owners

[eric23]

Originally Posted by mfer

Bezel is ceramic per Micah.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/35339...for+292+owners

Thanks for the link Mik

[bcacncnc]

Thx mik. Interesting read. I think we can confirm the following:

Ceramic:
Case
Bezel

PVD:
Buckle
Screws
Strap wire loops
Case back and
Crown

[mfer]

Originally Posted by bcacncnc

Thx mik. Interesting read. I think we can confirm the following:

Ceramic:
Case
Bezel

PVD:
Buckle
Screws
Strap wire loops
Case back and
Crown

I'm pretty sure the Crown is not PVD, but some other material. I recall reading the 292 crown shatters when struck sharply. I remember reading about some guy who had it happen twice. Let me see what I can find.

[mfer]

Ah, here we go.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/35339...wn+Cap+Cracked

[eric23]

Originally Posted by mfer

Ah, here we go.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/35339...wn+Cap+Cracked

There seems to be a lot that can go wrong with that watch.

[mfer]

Originally Posted by eric23

There seems to be a lot that can go wrong with that watch.

That is the tradeoff for scratchproofness (if that is a word). You can't have it all.

The ceramic is is brittle (can crack) as a results of being so hard (scratchproof).

Steel is soft by comparision (doesn't crack) but scratches easily.

[Cru Jones]

Originally Posted by eric23

There seems to be a lot that can go wrong with that watch.

to be fair, from reading the post, the poster dropped it 3 feet onto a tile floor....not something that would always result in problems, but, it's not 100% "shocking", either. maybe in an SS watch the case would be dented, or maybe the movement would get knocked around, or, maybe, nothing would happen.

[eric23]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

to be fair, from reading the post, the poster dropped it 3 feet onto a tile floor....not something that would always result in problems, but, it's not 100% "shocking", either. maybe in an SS watch the case would be dented, or maybe the movement would get knocked around, or, maybe, nothing would happen.

Originally Posted by mfer

That is the tradeoff for scratchproofness (if that is a word). You can't have it all.

The ceramic is is brittle (can crack) as a results of being so hard (scratchproof).

Steel is soft by comparision (doesn't crack) but scratches easily.

True, good points both of you guys, anyways I going to take my lunch break now and try it on at the AD.

[eric23]

I tried on the 292 today, one of the nicest looking watches I have ever put on but just not for me, so I passed on it.

[eric23]

I aslo tried on a 112;

[Cru Jones]

Thanks for the watch porn, Eric. Looking good! The 112 looks perfect on you. Just sayin'....

[CMLPXLV]

pam 00292 radiomir black seal ceramica- 45mm $9,200... wears smaller as per his size 45mm... Im not fan of PVD always an issue with that no matter wich brand... DLC is the present !

[eric23]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

Thanks for the watch porn, Eric. Looking good! The 112 looks perfect on you. Just sayin'....

I know, I like it. They seem to not be able to keep them on the shelf at my AD this one just came in and it will be out the door by the weekend.

[Cru Jones]

Originally Posted by eric23

I know, I like it. They seem to not be able to keep them on the shelf at my AD this one just came in and it will be out the door by the weekend.

...................and on your wrist??

[eric23]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

...................and on your wrist??

No, I think the next one will be a 372 or a 233.

[Cru Jones]

Originally Posted by eric23

No, I think the next one will be a 372 or a 233.

aaah, well, either of those will do, too.

[bcacncnc]

Eric. I think it looks nice on you. But maybe it just takes some time getting used to black watches. They certainly look cool!

Mfer. Thanks for the tip on the crown. Looking at the pics then the material does look like ceramic. I'm wondering though if the crown cracks can also be due to over tightening.