Tudor Sumariner

[Antonio]

Hello,

Anybody know if is hard to get a Tudor Submariner, from any age, normal submariner (not mini), and their prices depending of the age? Im currently looking for one :D

Also, where I can search for any?

Thanks,

Antonio

[BiG JeEzY]

Originally Posted by Antonio

Hello,

Anybody know if is hard to get a Tudor Submariner, from any age, normal submariner (not mini), and their prices depending of the age? Im currently looking for one :D

Also, where I can search for any?

Thanks,

Antonio

A Tudor Submariner should not be too hard of a find. It may be here in the United States since they have been officially discontinued here.

I think a good place to start is to ask your AD if they can refer you to a place that sells Tudors. Try to reserve buying online as a lower priority. Its always better to look and feel what you are going to buy first.

Most newer Tudor Submariners should not be a hard find at all. The general rule of thumb is that the older the models are, the harder they will be to find. Some Tudor Submariners with the "rose" logo on the dial from the 1960s are the ones that can be very difficult to find. That rose logo has A LOT of appeal to vintage watch collectors. Tudor had a "rose" logo on the dial before the "shield" logo that you currently see today.

Hope this helped.

[sylar]

this might be out of the topic but does anyone know where i can send my tudor submariner for service in London?

any phone numbers? or names?

[sylar]

Originally Posted by Antonio

Hello,

Anybody know if is hard to get a Tudor Submariner, from any age, normal submariner (not mini), and their prices depending of the age? Im currently looking for one :D

Also, where I can search for any?

Thanks,

Antonio

In addition to that, does anyone know where can i service my tudor submariner? any phone number?

[sylar]

does anyone know where i can service a tudor submariner London? any phone number?

[BiG JeEzY]

Here is a Tudor Sub with the "rose" logo that I mentioned about. The watch is from the year 1968. It would probably fetch a premium nowadays as its a very highly desired and collectible watch.

[frostie]

Nice vintage. Can somebody service this watch?

[T5AUS]

Originally Posted by Antonio

Hello,

Anybody know if is hard to get a Tudor Submariner, from any age, normal submariner (not mini), and their prices depending of the age? Im currently looking for one :D

Also, where I can search for any?

Thanks,

Antonio

Hi Antonio, it's pretty easy to pick up a modern one but as Jerome pointed out, the earlier ones from the 60's with the rose on the dial are getting scarce and so more expensive. You can still pick up 70's and 80's tudors with the shield dial reasonably well but again it does depend on the dial style. If it is a blue date with "snowflake" hands and square indices then you can expect to pay more than say a black dial with mercedes hands and round indices. Also, please be aware, they are copying these earlier ones now. I saw a snowflake one the other day and from a photo it looked genuine, luckily the seller was local and I was able to check it, and it was a fake, very well done and the seller had not realised, but a fake for sure. I would think there must be a few Tudors still waiting to be found in Spain, buy locally if you can, much safer.
I have attached a photo of a couple of my blue dials to give you an idea.
Good luck

[frostie]

These tudors look really nice with the nato strap phil

[wildsidemtb]

http://www.clockmaker.com.au/w/k630.html

http://www.clockmaker.com.au/w/k631.html

Check out these two, I am in no way affiliated with this company, however I have been to his store and I would buy from him in a flash. (just need the money)

Mark

[frostie]

Thanks for sharing the link

[Antonio]

If im not wrong, Tudor watches can be serviced in Rolex Service Centers, atleast in Spain. They are more expensive that my idea >< for that price I think I will save for a Sea Dweller

[Paulie]

Originally Posted by wildsidemtb

http://www.clockmaker.com.au/w/k630.html

http://www.clockmaker.com.au/w/k631.html

Check out these two, I am in no way affiliated with this company, however I have been to his store and I would buy from him in a flash. (just need the money)

Mark

Nick Hacko is a member here on these forums, though not a voracious poster.

[Wisher]

Hi, Antonio in Spain.

Of course me being in Japan is a totally different situation from your being in Spain.

In Japan, it is possible to get Tudor Subs still, but they are becoming harder and harder to get and more and more expensive, ever since Tudor quit making the models that look like the classic Rolex Subs. This is for all Sub models and not just the older versions with the Rose or Snowflake hands (They call snowflake hands "squid hands" here, by the way, because here they looked like swimming squids instead of snowflakes, I guess.)

Even harder to get than the Black/Black Subs are the Blue/Blue Subs. Luckily for me, I was able to get a Blue/Blue Tudor Sub, which I like better than the black. Mine is a 79190, the last model that still looks like a Rolex "Sub", but even these "newer" models are hard (getting harder) to get.

I bought mine a higher price than I wanted to pay, but it came with complete paperwork, recent RSC overhaul, original bracelet, etc. Before I got this one, all the blue ones I could find on the Internet were ones that had already been sold. And even when I saw one still for sale, I asked about it and was told it had already been "sold".

One idea is for you to look online to get an idea of the prices, conditions, availability, color, age. That's what I did.

I myself only buy from reputable brick and motar stores and actually went and looked and tried on the watch in person. I decided to buy it after going to the store 3 times and studying it out.

I think the time to buy is now, as the prices will most likely continue to go up. Good luck with your search, I think these are great pieces to own.

[Jedi]

Total Tudor Idiot Question here:

Are the movements identical to the Rolex movements?

I seem to have read somewhere that ETA might have been used?

[Wisher]

Originally Posted by JediSubExII

Total Tudor Idiot Question here:

Are the movements identical to the Rolex movements?

I seem to have read somewhere that ETA might have been used?

They are ETA. From what I know, this is what makes them different mechanically and pricewise from their Rolex counterparts.

[frostie]

Originally Posted by Wisher

Hi, Antonio in Spain.

Of course me being in Japan is a totally different situation from your being in Spain.

In Japan, it is possible to get Tudor Subs still, but they are becoming harder and harder to get and more and more expensive, ever since Tudor quit making the models that look like the classic Rolex Subs. This is for all Sub models and not just the older versions with the Rose or Snowflake hands (They call snowflake hands "squid hands" here, by the way, because here they looked like swimming squids instead of snowflakes, I guess.)

Even harder to get than the Black/Black Subs are the Blue/Blue Subs. Luckily for me, I was able to get a Blue/Blue Tudor Sub, which I like better than the black. Mine is a 79190, the last model that still looks like a Rolex "Sub", but even these "newer" models are hard (getting harder) to get.

I bought mine a higher price than I wanted to pay, but it came with complete paperwork, recent RSC overhaul, original bracelet, etc. Before I got this one, all the blue ones I could find on the Internet were ones that had already been sold. And even when I saw one still for sale, I asked about it and was told it had already been "sold".

One idea is for you to look online to get an idea of the prices, conditions, availability, color, age. That's what I did.

I myself only buy from reputable brick and motar stores and actually went and looked and tried on the watch in person. I decided to buy it after going to the store 3 times and studying it out.

I think the time to buy is now, as the prices will most likely continue to go up. Good luck with your search, I think these are great pieces to own.

This is one is a great looking tudor. I would like to have this watch the blue colour is amazing on ths watch

[tomski12]

While I have no intention of selling this watch, my watchmaker indicated that I could get about $2200 for this. One sold on e-bay for about $6000 recently.

[T5AUS]

Originally Posted by tomski12

While I have no intention of selling this watch, my watchmaker indicated that I could get about $2200 for this. One sold on e-bay for about $6000 recently.

Very nice example Tom, is it with the pointed crown guards?

[T5AUS]

Originally Posted by frostie

These tudors look really nice with the nato strap phil

Thanks Velitsko, they do seem to work well on both the Tudor and rolli subs.

[T5AUS]

Originally Posted by JediSubExII

Total Tudor Idiot Question here:

Are the movements identical to the Rolex movements?

I seem to have read somewhere that ETA might have been used?

From what I understand, the earlier Tudors to about mid 60's had the Rolex 390 movement then they changed to the ETA movements. Not sure what movements the more recent models use.
This link gives some good info on the earlier Tudors http://forumamontres.forumactif.com/...iner-t1013.htm

[tomski12]

Originally Posted by T5AUS

Very nice example Tom, is it with the pointed crown guards?

It does. Is there a significance to the pointed crown guards? I am a little familiar with the history of Tudors but I'm still learning.

This was a gift from my father in law. He purchased it while he was in the USMC in the early 60's. He gave it to his father and it was in a very bad state of disrepair when his father passed away. He gave it to me and indicated that I could do what I want with it. I took it to the watchmaker who told me he'd give me $400 for it in the beat up state or I could have it refurbished for $600 and I could probably get $1,700 for it. My father in law said he'd pay for the repair but I had to keep it for my son.

The watchmaker did a fantastic job on the repair.

[T5AUS]

Originally Posted by tomski12

It does. Is there a significance to the pointed crown guards? I am a little familiar with the history of Tudors but I'm still learning.

This was a gift from my father in law. He purchased it while he was in the USMC in the early 60's. He gave it to his father and it was in a very bad state of disrepair when his father passed away. He gave it to me and indicated that I could do what I want with it. I took it to the watchmaker who told me he'd give me $400 for it in the beat up state or I could have it refurbished for $600 and I could probably get $1,700 for it. My father in law said he'd pay for the repair but I had to keep it for my son.

The watchmaker did a fantastic job on the repair.

Now I remember your story from an earlier post as to how you came by it, great story.
The pointed crown guards indicate an earlier version of this model, more of a transitional from the 50's versions with no crown guards to the early 60's when the wider crown guards came in. As you say, yours is early 60's, perhaps around 61 to 63. Mine in my avatar is 61. You should be able to find a date code on the inside of the back cover below all the other information, mine is 11 61 (Nov 61) see photo

[tomski12]

That's what I was thinking.

[T5AUS]

Heres an example of a fake Tudor

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....ADME:B:SS:AU:1