Vintage Tudor Model ID?

[Drob]

Hello everyone. Please forgive me if this is posted in the wrong forum. I bought this a few months ago, and I've found it impossible to identify the model, let alone its age. I understand it's difficult to date Tudors, but any info on its model would be appreciated.

The crystal and bezel look to have been replaced. Its band is a jubilee. Its case, crown, and clasp are all signed Rolex. Any help would be much appreciated.
Thank you.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/270888321500#ht_676wt_1263

[larryccf]

given the dial has been "redone"

just the seller's descript would have worried me some: "Back of watch could use a little buffing. Looks like the dial has been redone and the numbers are a little fuzzy as a result. Also at 3 o'clock position there is a slight gap between dial and case hardly noticeable but I did.

as he's indicating the caseback could use a "buffing", hopefully there's a model number still showing - depending on the age, a lot of the early tudor dress watches had both the model number and the serial number engraved on the outside of the caseback. If not there, remove the bracelet and look between the lugs at both the 6:00 and 12:00 positions for the model & serial.

if you don't find anything there, take it to a watchmaker and have him remove the caseback - hopefully the model number will be stamped on the inside of the caseback and you'll at least know what model it used to be. If your watchmaker reports it's a fake, as the seller indicates "Watch has been serviced recently by an authorized rolex repairman", get that stmt from your watchmaker on his invoice or on a letter - there's an outside chance ebay may force the seller to refund you on this purchase. The dial having been "redone" doesn't explain the gap between the edge of the dial and the case, especially after having just returned from a "rolex repairman".

in the future, it would make more sense to have asked this before buying - at the worst here you're out a relatively small amount compared to the losses some take on their first bad purchase.

if it helps, below are examples of a model number engraved between the lugs - sometimes their worn so badly it's nearly impossible to see easily, even with a loupe. 2nd shot is of a 7809 tudor with the model engraved on the outside of the caseback.





and this last, borrowed from a poster on VRF, is what i'd suggest you do the next time you read a description like the one in this watch's ebay listing

[Keeperoftime]

Looks like a Tudor Oyster Date but I am not a Tudor-Guy (Yet!)...

[Drob]

Thanks for the responses, guys. I remember the jeweler I took it to said the movement, ETA, was "correct" for a Tudor. Point taken, though. Next purchase, I'll ask further questions before I buy. Worst case, I have a hodge-podge of Rolex and Tudor components. It was only a few hundred bucks, so I'll take this as a teachable moment.

Since the dial is redone, I may as well get one I like. Where would I look for a simple dial? Something that would look okay with the Mercedes hands? Thanks again.

[larryccf]

but to make sure it's redone accurately

it'd be worth it if you could identify the orig model by pulling the bracelet off and or the case back to see if there's a model number inside

if you pm me, i can throw you the contact info for a couple of watchmakers that can get that dial redone accurately, but it'd be nice to know the "target" dial beforehand