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boogiebot · 21 November 2011, 02:24 PM

im gonna say subc. but then again i own one so im somewhat bias

Mwing · 21 November 2011, 03:23 PM

exp2 if u need 2 timezones

F430Spider · 21 November 2011, 03:29 PM

Everyone has a sub including my doorman - get something different!

esm · 21 November 2011, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by F430Spider

Everyone has a sub including my doorman - get something different!

Wow - your doorman must get paid pretty well then. My doorman wished he had a Sub.

Actsulb · 21 November 2011, 04:00 PM

The Sub would be my choice. Looking forward to pics.

m_allie · 21 November 2011, 04:35 PM

sub hands down

jamesp7890 · 13 July 2012, 02:52 PM

I like the new exploer.... I have the 116610 and it is a tad small

jamesp7890 · 13 July 2012, 02:54 PM

Sub c!!! But I'm biased I own it..... Great watch

How · 14 July 2012, 01:10 AM

Sub C LN

sportsmaven20 · 7 August 2012, 06:26 AM

Anyone have a side-by-side picture comparison of these 2 timepieces, as well as the specs?

I'm interested in seeing the "mm" case length comparison from the end of one lug to the end of the other, along with the case width comparison.

How · 7 August 2012, 07:11 AM

SubC goes with everything

RC83 · 11 August 2012, 02:34 PM

I went down to the local jeweler to view the 216570 and 116610. I cannot decide between the two. I wish I could buy both, but I'm lucky enough to get atleast one. I actually came down to purchase the Explorer II, but was asked to try on the Sub. The Explorer II just seems to be the best choice due to its new movement and modernism. It is really nice to see something a bit more modern and different from Rolex. On the other hand, the Sub is a show-stopper and really gives off more of a "Luxury" look. I can see why it is a true classic, but it is also the most common Rolex I see. This will be my first Rolex (I am upgrading from an Omega Seamaster) and I would like to make the best choice possible.
Any thoughts?

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exxondus · 11 August 2012, 03:03 PM

Looking at the side by side photos, i am glad i went for the SubC :D

Thanks for sharing!

zeuloa · 11 August 2012, 06:13 PM

Explorer II, although I wish they kept the gloss dial on the black.

Psmith · 11 August 2012, 06:19 PM

Out of these two, I prefer the Exp II black dial. It is a watch you *must* see for real to properly appreciate

Now, choosing between the Exp II and GMT II C is a bit harder, although the GMT II C is noticeably smaller and dressier

AJMarcus · 11 August 2012, 10:24 PM

The Sub C is the heir to the ultimate Rolex icon often immitated but never duplicated. IMO the interest in the EXP II 42 will wane over time. It's just a bit overdone in parts and under done in others. It reminds of a modern version of those Russian watches in the 70s/80s. If you wait a year i think you'll see lots of EXP IIs on the pre owned market. Can not say the same about the Sub C. I mean no disrespect to those who are enamered with their EXp IIs. It's just my honest opiniIon having owned and flipped the EXP II. I will never flip my Sub C.

Psmith · 11 August 2012, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AJMarcus

The Sub C is the heir to the ultimate Rolex icon often immitated but never duplicated. IMO the interest in the EXP II 42 will wane over time. It's just a bit overdone in parts and under done in others. It reminds of a modern version of those Russian watches in the 70s/80s. If you wait a year i think you'll see lots of EXP IIs on the pre owned market. Can not say the same about the Sub C. I mean no disrespect to those who are enamered with their EXp IIs. It's just my honest opinion.

In defence of the Exp II... it has already been out for about a year, and there is certainly no shortage of Sub C's on the pre-owned market. The Sub is, of course, a classic and will outsell the Exp II and even the GMT. But imho the most recent updates have mainly been cosmetic, and it still uses what is essentially a quarter-century old movement. An improvement over the 16610 for sure (especially the Glidelock clasp), but imho Rolex should have done more

FremStar · 11 August 2012, 11:05 PM

Decisions, decisions... Love both, however, love the road less traveled better! 216570 for me!

Psmith · 11 August 2012, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FremStar

Decisions, decisions... Love both, however, love the road less traveled better! 216570 for me!

A handful of happiness there, Sam!

Both beautiful watches. The Exp II, in particular, has finally become the watch I always wanted it to be (well, close enough - a Triplock crown would have made it perfect)

FremStar · 12 August 2012, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Psmith

A handful of happiness there, Sam!

Both beautiful watches. The Exp II, in particular, has finally become the watch I always wanted it to be (well, close enough - a Triplock crown would have made it perfect)

I hear you Clive and thanks for your kind words, as with everything in life nothing is perfect, however, the 216570 does offer a level of excitement my other pieces don't bring me, with that said I need to start wearing it more

ssmui · 12 August 2012, 12:48 AM

I already have a TT subC and I am aiming for the polar next.

21 November 2011, 04:00 PM	#65
Actsulb 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Ali Location: California Watch: GMT II (Coke) Posts: 1,747	The Sub would be my choice. Looking forward to pics. __________________ A Crown for Every Achievement

11 August 2012, 02:34 PM	#72
RC83 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Rick Location: TEXAS Posts: 3	I just can't DECIDE! They both look absolutely amazing in person. Any thoughts? I went down to the local jeweler to view the 216570 and 116610. I cannot decide between the two. I wish I could buy both, but I'm lucky enough to get atleast one. I actually came down to purchase the Explorer II, but was asked to try on the Sub. The Explorer II just seems to be the best choice due to its new movement and modernism. It is really nice to see something a bit more modern and different from Rolex. On the other hand, the Sub is a show-stopper and really gives off more of a "Luxury" look. I can see why it is a true classic, but it is also the most common Rolex I see. This will be my first Rolex (I am upgrading from an Omega Seamaster) and I would like to make the best choice possible. Any thoughts?

11 August 2012, 06:19 PM	#75
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	Out of these two, I prefer the Exp II black dial. It is a watch you must see for real to properly appreciate Now, choosing between the Exp II and GMT II C is a bit harder, although the GMT II C is noticeably smaller and dressier __________________

11 August 2012, 11:05 PM	#78
FremStar "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Sam Location: Gotham City Watch: Wall Street Posts: 9,954	Decisions, decisions... Love both, however, love the road less traveled better! 216570 for me! __________________ "Wealth is of the heart and mind, not of the pocket!" "A Watch Is An Emotional Object, And So, It Is The Responsibility Of The Brand To Create Emotion Through It's Products" - Georges Kern "In the 1950s and 60s, they made the Ref 8171, which is a cult collectible—now that’s the ultimate Rolex you could own with a calendar and a moon phase.” - John Reardon "Heh, heh, heh..." - Michael Kilyung

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21 November 2011, 02:24 PM	#61
boogiebot "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: canada Watch: me post! Posts: 3,804	im gonna say subc. but then again i own one so im somewhat bias

21 November 2011, 03:23 PM	#62
Mwing "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 216	exp2 if u need 2 timezones

21 November 2011, 03:29 PM	#63
F430Spider "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Harry Location: NyC! Watch: RM + Patek Posts: 80	Everyone has a sub including my doorman - get something different!

21 November 2011, 04:35 PM	#66
m_allie Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Ali Location: NYC Watch: Deepsea,Patek 5980 Posts: 455	sub hands down

13 July 2012, 02:52 PM	#67
jamesp7890 Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: James Location: dallas Watch: Sub-c Posts: 78	I like the new exploer.... I have the 116610 and it is a tad small

13 July 2012, 02:54 PM	#68
jamesp7890 Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: James Location: dallas Watch: Sub-c Posts: 78	Sub c!!! But I'm biased I own it..... Great watch

14 July 2012, 01:10 AM	#69
How "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Melbourne Watch: 16610, Tudor 1960 Posts: 1,554	Sub C LN

7 August 2012, 06:26 AM	#70
sportsmaven20 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Randy Location: USA Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,925	Anyone have a side-by-side picture comparison of these 2 timepieces, as well as the specs? I'm interested in seeing the "mm" case length comparison from the end of one lug to the end of the other, along with the case width comparison.

7 August 2012, 07:11 AM	#71
How "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Melbourne Watch: 16610, Tudor 1960 Posts: 1,554	SubC goes with everything

11 August 2012, 03:03 PM	#73
exxondus "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Singapore Posts: 568	Looking at the side by side photos, i am glad i went for the SubC :D Thanks for sharing!

11 August 2012, 06:13 PM	#74
zeuloa "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Jose Location: Here Watch: SEA-DWELLER Posts: 2,232	Explorer II, although I wish they kept the gloss dial on the black.

11 August 2012, 10:24 PM	#76
AJMarcus "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: AJ Location: USA Watch: Swiss Posts: 5,238	The Sub C is the heir to the ultimate Rolex icon often immitated but never duplicated. IMO the interest in the EXP II 42 will wane over time. It's just a bit overdone in parts and under done in others. It reminds of a modern version of those Russian watches in the 70s/80s. If you wait a year i think you'll see lots of EXP IIs on the pre owned market. Can not say the same about the Sub C. I mean no disrespect to those who are enamered with their EXp IIs. It's just my honest opiniIon having owned and flipped the EXP II. I will never flip my Sub C.

12 August 2012, 12:48 AM	#81
ssmui "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Malaysia Posts: 79	I already have a TT subC and I am aiming for the polar next.

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