Sales success does not equal style (Porsche)

[conrail]

Originally Posted by NYC6

Did you miss my post above with the Nurburgring list? The Z06 was also much faster than all the other 'drivers cars' in the post iiGT2 referenced.
Heres another list from C&D's Lightning lap series. The Z06 and ZR1 bested all Porsches at Virginia International Raceway.
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...to-2011-page-8

Maybe you're talking about tooling around at 40mph on a slow windy road on a Sunday afternoon with grandma sitting next to you because I have no idea what you're talking about, but where the rubber meets the road and drivers push cars to the limit, Corvette is a force to be reckoned with. I think most people who drive real sports cars will admit, Corvettes can indeed "keep up with Porsches on curvy roads".

No didn't see your post. I don't picture that car as a road hugger, but that's impressive if they did well around a curvy track.

[gmh1013]

I love the early 70's 911's and thats about it for me...the new ones im not crazy about with the exception of the Caymen series.
The four door is just plain ugly IHHO
Would I ever buy one?.....only the early 70's 911's

[dsio]

I kind of had my dreams shattered a bit when getting to use a 997S for an extended period, there were just so many things like the shift linkage, clutch feel and driving position that let the whole experience down, its probably not as bad in the USA but on Australian cars the pedal box is several inches too far to the left such that the brake is where the clutch should be and the clutch at full travel makes you sit side saddle.

When the car was cold shifting from 1st to 2nd was almost impossible and 3rd was a safer bet, twice when driving the thing hard and shifting into second after taking off in first, even though it was well and truly seated in second it made this bang like a gunshot under the car and flew out of gear.

[TSW]

Beautiful pics!!

[ToyCollector]

I agree with many of the OP's points. I feel the Boxster/Cayman are the closest to still being what the older 911s were about, but they are also too cushy for me. BTW, I wouldn't refuse a GT2 or GT3RS, just so we get that out of the way

I love the styling of the new 911, but it has become a relatively large GT cruiser. I got a Lotus Elise last time I went shopping for a true driver's car and love it and track it as well with PCA. I also still have and cling to my 1988 930S Cab. To me, that time and the early 90s were the peak of German engineering and design before the cars got way too complicated with electronic add-ons and added weight. It just means we need to seek out and preserve the older stuff. Just did a complete motor rebuild and upgrade on my 930S and it should be good to go for another 100K miles plus before needing to be redone. Older 911s are almost infinitely rebuild-able if the tubs are in good shape.

[DSJ]

I do like the Cayman and Boxster. Porsche has a real problem, because these cars are better driver's cars than the 911 and if they had 911 power, they would trounce a 911. When I first saw a Panamera, my reaction was "4-door 928." So, IMO, the 928 lives on through the Panamera.

[InTime]

does modernism apply to porsche?