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Solo118 · 28 September 2012, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roger 2011

Dear TRF Members...... recently my local AD offered me to trade in both of my Rolex sports model.... My beloved 16520 "A" serial and my 16570 "A" serial Both with original box, tag and paper...etc..... He offered me the Brand New 116520 (Black) and Brand New 116610LV..... All i need to do is swap with him outright.... ( I don't need any CASH for my upgrade...sounds too good to be true...lol) would you guys do it ???
Here's mine:

I can't imagine how he made this offer, but I would not think twice. Unless your Daytona has true sentimental value which is sounds like it does.

datejust24 · 28 September 2012, 01:59 AM

this cant be right?..right?

Brian J · 28 September 2012, 04:11 AM

OP posted again adding to the story and clearing up the confusion as to why the AD would offer this deal. Post #75

dannyp · 28 September 2012, 04:24 AM

Not sure whether I'd do it, to be honest, but that mostly has to do with preferring the 40mm Explorer II over the super case LV.

This also isn't necessarily that bad a deal for the dealer; the Zenith Daytona can go for as much as MSRP on a new Daytona and ADs may charge what the market will bear for a used piece, while Rolex would flip if they marked up a brand new one.

So it seems the loss he's taking on the LV is his total cost in this transaction, which sounds approximately the same as the discount offered on a new watch as a make good on the damage to the FM. Perhaps he's even banking on those accumulating some collector value in the not too distant future.

Sam Philip · 28 September 2012, 09:09 AM

Do the swap

Ticking Away · 28 September 2012, 02:42 PM

It's better than the offer I would present to you.

aspen · 28 September 2012, 02:51 PM

Let me know if you change your mind, I'll send you mine so you can do it for me.

polarinda · 28 September 2012, 05:16 PM

10 if "ad"="for real" then goto 20

20 print "do it": Goto 20

ecsub44 · 29 September 2012, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polarinda

10 if "ad"="for real" then goto 20

20 print "do it": Goto 20

Old school. Nice.

gregdolley · 6 October 2012, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polarinda

10 if "ad"="for real" then goto 20

20 print "do it": Goto 20

Old school GW-BASIC...

guyrolex · 6 October 2012, 09:23 AM

What an incredible deal- i would jump on it! But, sounds too good to be true?

Welshwatchman · 6 October 2012, 09:52 AM

The full set A serial 16520 is a fair swap for a brand new 116520.

The 16570 would be a good £2k shy of the "hulk".

.... and that's for a member-member trade. An AD offering this would be near (if not absolutely) unprecedented.

improviz · 24 November 2012, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

The full set A serial 16520 is a fair swap for a brand new 116520.

The 16570 would be a good £2k shy of the "hulk".

.... and that's for a member-member trade. An AD offering this would be near (if not absolutely) unprecedented.

Yeah, I agree, this doesn't wash....I'm definitely in the "I'll believe it when I see pictures and receipts showing the net cost to be zero" category...

subtona · 1 December 2012, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

The full set A serial 16520 is a fair swap for a brand new 116520.

The 16570 would be a good £2k shy of the "hulk".

.... and that's for a member-member trade. An AD offering this would be near (if not absolutely) unprecedented.

CharlieSheen · 6 October 2012, 09:56 AM

any update?

nauticajoe · 6 October 2012, 02:06 PM

Go for it!

caryyee · 6 October 2012, 02:16 PM

Any update from the OP??? I'd really want to know if you took on that deal, I'd jump at an offer like that!

Rocco22 · 6 October 2012, 09:35 PM

Do it

liptonnr · 7 October 2012, 01:20 PM

Swap em danno!

77T · 7 October 2012, 02:04 PM

Outside of a gross misunderstanding in his offer (like either the 116520 or 116610LV for your two)
Then - yes, I'd do it in a NY minute!

I've had the same A serial# combo you do (except both were White Dials) - current combined value used is $13K USD on a good day - so methinks something's screwy here...maybe a misunderstanding. The 116520 & 116610LV combined value is over $21K USD MSRP - the resulting effective discount would be 38%.

ralpie · 23 November 2012, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 77T

Outside of a gross misunderstanding in his offer (like either the 116520 or 116610LV for your two)
Then - yes, I'd do it in a NY minute!

I've had the same A serial# combo you do (except both were White Dials) - current combined value used is $13K USD on a good day - so methinks something's screwy here...maybe a misunderstanding. The 116520 & 116610LV combined value is over $21K USD MSRP - the resulting effective discount would be 38%.

This actually makes it sound reasonable.

The AD would be losing nothing and moving more new inventory, all while gaining a customer for life.

Atypical yes, crazy maybe not.

al_bongo · 23 November 2012, 09:57 PM

Hard to believe since your dealer would immediately be liable for 20% VAT when trying to resell your watches. So effectively he's losing 20% on the deal?

MYK · 24 November 2012, 12:51 AM

I would do it in a heartbeat!

Brushpup · 24 November 2012, 01:28 AM

I don't guess he did it.

financeman · 24 November 2012, 01:52 AM

Yeah, I wouldn't have taken the time to post on here. I would have done it then posted. That deal is way to good to pass up. I can't understand what benefit he is gaining in this trade. Hope it all works out for you

zeuloa · 24 November 2012, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by al_bongo

Hard to believe since your dealer would immediately be liable for 20% VAT when trying to resell your watches. So effectively he's losing 20% on the deal?

Maybe it's my bad math but how does this play into it. Wouldn't the customers that buy the watches pay for VAT?

Rags · 24 November 2012, 07:16 AM

There is something missing here. Why would a AD offer 2 BNIB watches for 2 used watches with no additional cash. Give him my number PLEASE!!!!

Brian J · 30 November 2012, 05:00 AM

This thread again.....I posted this two months ago and I'll post it again.

Post #75 is the OP clearing up questions as to why the AD would offer this deal.

improviz · 1 December 2012, 01:06 AM

Post #84 very succinctly summarised reasons why post #75 doesn't sound logical.

eric23 · 1 December 2012, 01:21 AM

Go for it!

7 October 2012, 02:04 PM	#20
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,017	Outside of a gross misunderstanding in his offer (like either the 116520 or 116610LV for your two) Then - yes, I'd do it in a NY minute! I've had the same A serial# combo you do (except both were White Dials) - current combined value used is $13K USD on a good day - so methinks something's screwy here...maybe a misunderstanding. The 116520 & 116610LV combined value is over $21K USD MSRP - the resulting effective discount would be 38%. __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

24 November 2012, 01:28 AM	#24
Brushpup "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Patrick Location: Texas Watch: what I'm wearing Posts: 5,943	I don't guess he did it. __________________ *TRFs "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Patron-Founding Member* PClub # 10 74,592 The safest place for your watch is on your wrist.

24 November 2012, 01:52 AM	#25
financeman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Heath Location: Lawrenceburg KY Watch: Submariner Posts: 3,982	Yeah, I wouldn't have taken the time to post on here. I would have done it then posted. That deal is way to good to pass up. I can't understand what benefit he is gaining in this trade. Hope it all works out for you __________________ “You may delay, but time will not.” ― Benjamin Franklin

24 November 2012, 07:16 AM	#27
Rags 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Chuck Location: SW Florida Watch: 16233,16610,214270 Posts: 11,196	There is something missing here. Why would a AD offer 2 BNIB watches for 2 used watches with no additional cash. Give him my number PLEASE!!!! __________________ 16233 Y Serial Datejust 16610 Z Serial Submariner 214270 Explorer *114300 Oyster Perpetual* *76200 Tudor Date+Day*

1 December 2012, 01:06 AM	#29
improviz "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tejas Watch: your step Posts: 2,806	Post #84 very succinctly summarised reasons why post #75 doesn't sound logical. __________________ 116520 white; 16613 black; 116710; 16570 polar; 16600. AP 15400; 15703. Blancpain Fifty Fathoms. Glashutte Sport Evo GMT. Omega Planet Ocean 2907.50.91; Planet Ocean Liquidmetal LE 222.30.42.20.01.001; Seamaster 2255.80.00. Breitling Crosswind, white. Panerai PAM 005. VC Overseas Chrono, black.

28 September 2012, 01:59 AM	#2
datejust24 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Chris Location: Cincinnati,Ohio Watch: Rolexssss Posts: 3,504	this cant be right?..right?

28 September 2012, 04:11 AM	#3
Brian J Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Minnesota Watch: Rolex and Tudor Posts: 369	OP posted again adding to the story and clearing up the confusion as to why the AD would offer this deal. Post #75

28 September 2012, 04:24 AM	#4
dannyp Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: usa Posts: 6,765	Not sure whether I'd do it, to be honest, but that mostly has to do with preferring the 40mm Explorer II over the super case LV. This also isn't necessarily that bad a deal for the dealer; the Zenith Daytona can go for as much as MSRP on a new Daytona and ADs may charge what the market will bear for a used piece, while Rolex would flip if they marked up a brand new one. So it seems the loss he's taking on the LV is his total cost in this transaction, which sounds approximately the same as the discount offered on a new watch as a make good on the damage to the FM. Perhaps he's even banking on those accumulating some collector value in the not too distant future.

28 September 2012, 09:09 AM	#5
Sam Philip Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK Posts: 4,345	Do the swap

28 September 2012, 02:42 PM	#6
Ticking Away "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 272	It's better than the offer I would present to you.

28 September 2012, 02:51 PM	#7
aspen "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Sermphan Location: Bangkok, Thailand Watch: 16610 Posts: 107	Let me know if you change your mind, I'll send you mine so you can do it for me.

28 September 2012, 05:16 PM	#8
polarinda "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Trav Location: singapore Watch: it Posts: 2,316	10 if "ad"="for real" then goto 20 20 print "do it": Goto 20

6 October 2012, 09:23 AM	#11
guyrolex Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: John Location: Canada Watch: DSSD, SubC LV Posts: 258	What an incredible deal- i would jump on it! But, sounds too good to be true?

6 October 2012, 09:52 AM	#12
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	The full set A serial 16520 is a fair swap for a brand new 116520. The 16570 would be a good £2k shy of the "hulk". .... and that's for a member-member trade. An AD offering this would be near (if not absolutely) unprecedented.

6 October 2012, 09:56 AM	#15
CharlieSheen Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Chris Location: California Posts: 381	any update?

6 October 2012, 02:06 PM	#16
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	Go for it!

6 October 2012, 02:16 PM	#17
caryyee "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: A Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,180	Any update from the OP??? I'd really want to know if you took on that deal, I'd jump at an offer like that!

6 October 2012, 09:35 PM	#18
Rocco22 Banned Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mass/Vegas/disney Watch: Hulk,114060,14060 Posts: 929	Do it

7 October 2012, 01:20 PM	#19
liptonnr "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Nate Location: Pottsville, PA Watch: Sub-c LV, GMT's Posts: 988	Swap em danno!

23 November 2012, 09:57 PM	#22
al_bongo "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Scotland, UK Posts: 444	Hard to believe since your dealer would immediately be liable for 20% VAT when trying to resell your watches. So effectively he's losing 20% on the deal?

24 November 2012, 12:51 AM	#23
MYK 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Mohammed Location: Kuwait Watch: @kuwaitinglist Posts: 1,622	I would do it in a heartbeat!

30 November 2012, 05:00 AM	#28
Brian J Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Minnesota Watch: Rolex and Tudor Posts: 369	This thread again.....I posted this two months ago and I'll post it again. Post #75 is the OP clearing up questions as to why the AD would offer this deal.

1 December 2012, 01:21 AM	#30
eric23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Calgary Posts: 9,595	Go for it!

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