The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX


Go Back   Rolex Forums - Rolex Forum > Classifieds > WatchOut!!!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 3 October 2012, 12:48 AM   #1
cajunron
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
cajunron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Real Name: Ronnie
Location: Southeastern USA
Watch: Omega Seamaster PO
Posts: 3,872
Vintage Rolex on ebay

Fellas, I need some advice. I know this is not an oyster case, and anybody can engrave the word 'ROLEX' onto a movement. But I think this is a fake. Any opinions from our esteemed members?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1930...item20cba8fbc6
__________________
cajunron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 October 2012, 03:08 AM   #2
MoBe
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 6,773
I don`t know anything at all about vintage Rolex but I would not pay anything for a conversion of a pocketwatch with or without an original Rolex movement,there is little or no value here in my opinion.
MoBe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 October 2012, 03:11 AM   #3
cajunron
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
cajunron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Real Name: Ronnie
Location: Southeastern USA
Watch: Omega Seamaster PO
Posts: 3,872
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoBe View Post
I don`t know anything at all about vintage Rolex but I would not pay anything for a conversion of a pocketwatch with or without an original Rolex movement,there is little or no value here in my opinion.
Sure there is. I value all opinions. Thanks.
__________________
cajunron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 October 2012, 03:26 AM   #4
tudorman8276
"TRF" Member
 
tudorman8276's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Real Name: STAN
Location: KY-USA
Watch: Rolex Prez
Posts: 12,583
...I have been watching this Russian...

...for some time now.

...he was listing a bunch of the smae style watches, but I could not put enough together to get him canned.

...eventually, he WILL slip up.
tudorman8276 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 October 2012, 05:17 AM   #5
AmbSteve
"TRF" Member
 
AmbSteve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Real Name: Steve
Location: San Angelo, TX
Watch: Rlx,Omega,JLC,Breg
Posts: 1,699
Personally I think it looks a bit horrendous, not sure what is going on with the dial with so many different markings.
__________________
AmbSteve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3 October 2012, 08:48 AM   #6
crowncollection
"TRF" Member
 
crowncollection's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Real Name: David
Location: australia
Posts: 20,216
ok heres the deal i own a real one of these with untouched (radium dial), apart from a non original case resprayed dial which is disclosed, the hands are replacements and incorrect style. The movement is a russian copy of a Cortébert, production of the Cortébert brand name stopped in the 1970s. Cortébert used to be one of the highest regarded premium watch brands, manufacturing their own movements,supplying movements to other brands such as Rolex

you need to be careful though, the copies look very similar, the photos below a real one (top photo) and russian below the movment number is slightly different number 526 but you get the idea of what the russians are doing.
Attached Images
   
__________________
watches many
crowncollection is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 October 2012, 06:33 AM   #7
de66
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: ZRH
Posts: 1,209
I am not a watch expert but dont think its an honest watch.
the engravings dont look consistent somehow...
de66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4 October 2012, 07:43 AM   #8
george..k
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Toronto
Posts: 127
How can a watch from 1930 have luminescent material on it that still glows?
george..k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 October 2012, 05:38 PM   #9
genevewatches
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: henderson NV
Posts: 14
I like how at the bottom he gives a list of care recommendations.

#2 "Antique vintage watches should not be beaten or dropped because repairs can be expensive"
#3 Old watches are not waterproof and you should protect them from all moister.
#5 If you get any salt water on your watch you should then immerse your entire watch in regular water to remove the salt.

Amazing care guide. Learned something

I did not know your aren't supposed to beat your watches.
genevewatches is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11 October 2012, 03:51 PM   #10
iaymnu
"TRF" Member
 
iaymnu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Real Name: ken
Location: NYC/Hong Kong
Watch: Exp II/GMT2c
Posts: 236
Quote:
Originally Posted by genevewatches View Post
I like how at the bottom he gives a list of care recommendations.

#2 "Antique vintage watches should not be beaten or dropped because repairs can be expensive"
#3 Old watches are not waterproof and you should protect them from all moister.
#5 If you get any salt water on your watch you should then immerse your entire watch in regular water to remove the salt.

Amazing care guide. Learned something

I did not know your aren't supposed to beat your watches.
But what is more puzzling is that #3 contradicts #5. not waterproof..but immerse the entire watch in regular water to remove salt?? huh?
iaymnu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 October 2012, 07:09 AM   #11
de66
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: ZRH
Posts: 1,209
hadnt even got to that yet.
That put me in stitches!
too funny...
de66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 October 2012, 11:37 AM   #12
77T
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
77T's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Real Name: PaulG
Location: Georgia
Posts: 42,010
Quote:
Originally Posted by AmbSteve View Post
Personally I think it looks a bit horrendous, not sure what is going on with the dial with so many different markings.
It's a classic California dial with new lume applied during a refinish.
__________________


Does anyone really know what time it is?
77T is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 October 2012, 11:40 AM   #13
77T
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
 
77T's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Real Name: PaulG
Location: Georgia
Posts: 42,010
Quote:
Originally Posted by crowncollection View Post

you need to be careful though, the copies look very similar, the photos below a real one (top photo) and russian below the movment number is slightly different number 526 but you get the idea of what the russians are doing.
Agree 1000% - a vintage watch of this era and earlier are not to be bought from an unknown source or one that you have reservations about.

It is a typical re-case of a pocket movement but it really needs to be vetted by a really good antiquarian experienced watchmaker.
__________________


Does anyone really know what time it is?
77T is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

WatchesOff5th

DavidSW Watches

Takuya Watches

OCWatches

Asset Appeal

Wrist Aficionado

My Watch LLC


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.