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blairg · 11 December 2007, 09:19 AM

I Just Purchased A Used Ss/gold Rolex Submanier With Date And Blue Face It Will Not Glow In The Dark The Number Markers Look Like They Should Glow .anyone Know Why? I Tried Holding A Flashlight On It But Didnt Matter

Thani · 11 December 2007, 09:19 AM

JJ should answer that

JJ Irani · 11 December 2007, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by blairg

I Just Purchased A Used Ss/gold Rolex Submanier With Date And Blue Face It Will Not Glow In The Dark The Number Markers Look Like They Should Glow .anyone Know Why? I Tried Holding A Flashlight On It But Didnt Matter

Hi and welcome to TRF.

How old is the watch? Can you tell us the first letter of the serial no.?

Cheers - JJ

blairg · 11 December 2007, 09:28 AM

i dont know i think it is late 90s

blairg · 11 December 2007, 09:29 AM

i dont know to find the serial number can you advise?

frostie · 11 December 2007, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by blairg

i dont know i think it is late 90s

If it is from the 90's then it is a tritium dial. tritium dials lose their glow after a decade.

frostie · 11 December 2007, 09:30 AM

By the way welcome to TRF happy to have you here

blairg · 11 December 2007, 09:32 AM

what do i have to do and how much will it cost?

blairg · 11 December 2007, 09:34 AM

thanks for the warm welcome guys

frostie · 11 December 2007, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by blairg

what do i have to do and how much will it cost?

Go to an RSC and change the dial of the watch. The new rolex dials are equipped with superluminova and superluminova does not lose it's glow over time. I don't know what is the price for a dial exchange in the US but i don't that it's a lot of money. Also if you change the dial make sure that you keep the old one cause it adds more value to the watch.

blairg · 11 December 2007, 09:37 AM

thanks for the info

frostie · 11 December 2007, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by blairg

thanks for the info

scottschoe · 11 December 2007, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by frostie

Go to an RSC and change the dial of the watch. The new rolex dials are equipped with superluminova and superluminova does not lose it's glow over time. I don't know what is the price for a dial exchange in the US but i don't that it's a lot of money. Also if you change the dial make sure that you keep the old one cause it adds more value to the watch.

I don't think they'll allow you to keep your original dial, so I would advise not to swap anything out. Resale will also take a hit.

frostie · 11 December 2007, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by scottschoe

I don't think they'll allow you to keep your original dial, so I would advice not to swap anything out. Resale will also take a hit.

That's strange. there are many TRF members here that kept the dials or watch hands after replacing them

Mrdi · 11 December 2007, 10:01 AM

Just depends on where you live Frostie.
I would leave it stock.
If you need glo sell it and buy one that will glo.
You'll probably be better in the long run $$ wise

Wolfgang427 · 11 December 2007, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by frostie

That's strange. there are many TRF members here that kept the dials or watch hands after replacing them

The USA RSC will change both hands and dial, but they will keep the old ones on an exchange basis.(no-returns).

frostie · 11 December 2007, 10:09 AM

I have to see what's the policy of the greek RSC. i am just curious to find out

blairg · 11 December 2007, 10:20 AM

i spoke to rolex in new york earlier today and they said they would refurbish it between 400 and 800 usd will doing this mess up the value and also will they make it glow?

Keith F. · 11 December 2007, 10:40 AM

If RSC is doing the work then it will be documented, and I don't see how that will affect the value.

Scooby · 11 December 2007, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Keith F.

If RSC is doing the work then it will be documented, and I don't see how that will affect the value.

I affects the value in that it is no longer original. Sure, it's still all certified Rolex, but it is altered. Maybe not now, but sometime in the future someone may want an old blue TT sub in it's original form. That's when the value is affected. For example, buying a 5513 from the early 70's means (usually) looking for the original dila tobe on it as well. If it's been redialed, the value drops.

Mrdi · 11 December 2007, 11:14 AM

Like painting an old Porsche.
The original paint may not be as shiny
but it is worth a lot more than a recent resale red

gha · 11 December 2007, 11:15 AM

I have a very new SubDate, (maybe Aug/Sept 07 build, bought it in Oct 07)and it doesn't hold its lume very long at all....gha

Tools · 11 December 2007, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Keith F.

If RSC is doing the work then it will be documented, and I don't see how that will affect the value.

Original dials and original hands are something that collectors look for in the most desired models.

A 90's TT Sub is not among the highly collected and most desireable Subs at this time (unless it is a particularly rare model)...But they are desired by a large number of the population who like the blue Sub.

I believe that this Sub is probably due for an overhaul at this point (unless documentation shows it's been done in the past 5 years). Or alternatively, it definitely needs to be taken to any good watchmaker for a clean, oil, and adjust.

If the Dial and hands were changed for Luminova at an RSC Service, I do not believe that the value of this particular piece would be seriously affected... Certainly the value for the present owner would be enhanced since that is the only way that "glow" can be restored.

It's kind of an owners call here...

stewie · 11 December 2007, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by frostie

Go to an RSC and change the dial of the watch. The new rolex dials are equipped with superluminova and superluminova does not lose it's glow over time. I don't know what is the price for a dial exchange in the US but i don't that it's a lot of money. Also if you change the dial make sure that you keep the old one cause it adds more value to the watch.

i thought they were all luminova and not super-luminova? i hope i am wrong on this one though, as i would love to know it has superluminova

GoldenBear · 11 December 2007, 11:25 AM

FYI- I brought both of my Rolexes into Shreve to get them looked at today. They are an AD and a certified Rolex "repair shop". They share the same space with the RSC in S.F. Anyway, they look at the watch(es) first and then make recommendations before taking any action. Anyway, "repairs" and "tune-up'" can go from a few hundred to a thousand. They want to get the go ahead first. I would like my glow restored but I'll double-check before I let them do anything.

blairg · 11 December 2007, 11:34 AM

the jeweler i purchased from said his watch repair man opened it up and serviced it he said it was in great shape. the watch was a widows her husband died so she sold it.i think i will let it be i paid 3825 and the same watch new was over 7000 including tax and that was with a 15% discount at masons jewelers here they are going out of business.did i get a ok deal?

YuppieKid · 11 December 2007, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frostie

Go to an RSC and change the dial of the watch. The new rolex dials are equipped with superluminova and superluminova does not lose it's glow over time. I don't know what is the price for a dial exchange in the US but i don't that it's a lot of money. Also if you change the dial make sure that you keep the old one cause it adds more value to the watch.

I would keep it original. My N-Serial Sub 16610 also as its original tritium dial and hands. Keeping it original may maintain its value.

Just my two cents.

mcubed · 11 December 2007, 01:07 PM

It is really up to you. If you don't care about potential collector value, then get it changed. I personally would on a mid 90s sub, since the basic layout (gloss dial with white gold markers) is the same as you would get currently. It's not like you are sending in a matte dial 5513 with painted markers and will get back a gloss dial with applied markers......But it all depends on what you use the watch for.

I am never selling mine, so I really don't care much about resale value, for others, the history of the piece and originality are all important, I guess it depends on what your interest in the watch is. There is no right or wrong IMHO, just different perspectives and inerests.

YuppieKid · 11 December 2007, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mcubed

It is really up to you. If you don't care about potential collector value, then get it changed. I personally would on a mid 90s sub, since the basic layout (gloss dial with white gold markers) is the same as you would get currently. It's not like you are sending in a matte dial 5513 with painted markers and will get back a gloss dial with applied markers......But it all depends on what you use the watch for.

I am never selling mine, so I really don't care much about resale value, for others, the history of the piece and originality are all important, I guess it depends on what your interest in the watch is. There is no right or wrong IMHO, just different perspectives and inerests.

problmchylde · 11 December 2007, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by frostie

If it is from the 90's then it is a tritium dial. tritium dials lose their glow after a decade.

Thats your answer.

11 December 2007, 09:19 AM	#1
blairg "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Posts: 9	Submariner Does Not Glow At Night I Just Purchased A Used Ss/gold Rolex Submanier With Date And Blue Face It Will Not Glow In The Dark The Number Markers Look Like They Should Glow .anyone Know Why? I Tried Holding A Flashlight On It But Didnt Matter

11 December 2007, 11:25 AM	#25
GoldenBear "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Francisco Watch: Submariner Posts: 2,480	FYI- I brought both of my Rolexes into Shreve to get them looked at today. They are an AD and a certified Rolex "repair shop". They share the same space with the RSC in S.F. Anyway, they look at the watch(es) first and then make recommendations before taking any action. Anyway, "repairs" and "tune-up'" can go from a few hundred to a thousand. They want to get the go ahead first. I would like my glow restored but I'll double-check before I let them do anything. __________________ ____________________________________________ Rolex Blue TT Submariner Rolex SS Submariner Breitling Emergency Mission They are just watches, wear 'em. ____________________________________________

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11 December 2007, 09:19 AM	#2
Thani Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Thani Location: Dubai UAE Watch: Milgauss 116400 GV Posts: 2,082	JJ should answer that

11 December 2007, 09:28 AM	#4
blairg "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Posts: 9	i dont know i think it is late 90s

11 December 2007, 09:29 AM	#5
blairg "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Posts: 9	i dont know to find the serial number can you advise?

11 December 2007, 09:30 AM	#7
frostie 1,000,000th PostMember Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 14,048	By the way welcome to TRF happy to have you here

11 December 2007, 09:32 AM	#8
blairg "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Posts: 9	what do i have to do and how much will it cost?

11 December 2007, 09:34 AM	#9
blairg "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Posts: 9	thanks for the warm welcome guys

11 December 2007, 09:37 AM	#11
blairg "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Posts: 9	thanks for the info

11 December 2007, 10:01 AM	#15
Mrdi Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Posts: 3,478	Just depends on where you live Frostie. I would leave it stock. If you need glo sell it and buy one that will glo. You'll probably be better in the long run $$ wise

11 December 2007, 10:09 AM	#17
frostie 1,000,000th PostMember Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 14,048	I have to see what's the policy of the greek RSC. i am just curious to find out

11 December 2007, 10:20 AM	#18
blairg "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Posts: 9	i spoke to rolex in new york earlier today and they said they would refurbish it between 400 and 800 usd will doing this mess up the value and also will they make it glow?

11 December 2007, 10:40 AM	#19
Keith F. Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Smithfield RI Posts: 21	If RSC is doing the work then it will be documented, and I don't see how that will affect the value.

11 December 2007, 11:14 AM	#21
Mrdi Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Posts: 3,478	Like painting an old Porsche. The original paint may not be as shiny but it is worth a lot more than a recent resale red

11 December 2007, 11:15 AM	#22
gha "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: gha Location: Canada Watch: Rolex DateJust Posts: 664	I have a very new SubDate, (maybe Aug/Sept 07 build, bought it in Oct 07)and it doesn't hold its lume very long at all....gha

11 December 2007, 11:34 AM	#26
blairg "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Posts: 9	the jeweler i purchased from said his watch repair man opened it up and serviced it he said it was in great shape. the watch was a widows her husband died so she sold it.i think i will let it be i paid 3825 and the same watch new was over 7000 including tax and that was with a 15% discount at masons jewelers here they are going out of business.did i get a ok deal?

11 December 2007, 01:07 PM	#28
mcubed "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: US Posts: 468	It is really up to you. If you don't care about potential collector value, then get it changed. I personally would on a mid 90s sub, since the basic layout (gloss dial with white gold markers) is the same as you would get currently. It's not like you are sending in a matte dial 5513 with painted markers and will get back a gloss dial with applied markers......But it all depends on what you use the watch for. I am never selling mine, so I really don't care much about resale value, for others, the history of the piece and originality are all important, I guess it depends on what your interest in the watch is. There is no right or wrong IMHO, just different perspectives and inerests.

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