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FBender · 17 December 2007, 03:41 PM

A mate of mine purchased a 2003 16610 a while ago from another aussie on that auction site. Finally got to catch up with him and check the watch out. No papers, box etc looks dinkum.

He thinks it is a fake. It has the etching, to the best of my knowledge the dial etc looks fine.

He has had the back off at a jeweller and apparently on the inside of the back cover it didnt say Geneva etc, but the movement was right so he said.

Would someone be able to tell me if the following bracelet numbers are correct for this submariner and what should be on the inside of the back cover please.

Endlinks - 93253

Clasp - 6248-19 M12

Thanks
Phil

JJ Irani · 17 December 2007, 03:50 PM

All of the above doesn't mean a thing until we see some pics. Today's fakes are mind-blowingly good....very, very good.

Some pics will help us determine the facts.

Cheers - JJ

FBender · 17 December 2007, 04:41 PM

As requested

ROGERB · 17 December 2007, 05:53 PM

I do not purport to be an expert but the number that should be on that clasp would be 93250 denoting the strap for that model.... the number 93253 is for a TT gold and SS bracelet. The last time I saw a bezel with the pearl missing that looked like that bezel was a co-worker with a fake. I'm afraid the evidence as you have described with the inside case back smells very faux!
P.S. The clasp code (M) is for a 1988!
R

SPACE-DWELLER · 17 December 2007, 06:02 PM

Yes, that is a fake.

Dial font is all wrong, and end pieces don't look that way on the underside.

Font on the bezel is wrong, too.

Bezel pearl is missing or was never there. Anyway, looks wrong, too.

ashu2289 · 17 December 2007, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPACE-DWELLER

Yes, that is a fake.

Dial font is all wrong, and end pieces don't look that way on the underside.

Font on the bezel is wrong, too.

Bezel pearl is missing or was never there. Anyway, looks wrong, too.

Surely !!!! it is a fake!!!!

Even the center links are solid and not hollow

FBender · 17 December 2007, 06:16 PM

Thanks fellas, looks like its bad news. The bezel pearl fell out on a street in London. Just goes to show never can be to careful.
Appreciate your time

time · 17 December 2007, 06:36 PM

Sorry, mate. It looks fake as Bo & co stated. The bracelet and case are abs. fake.

SPACE-DWELLER · 17 December 2007, 06:43 PM

I reported it since it belongs in the WatchOut section just if you wonder why it's being moved soon.

walds11 · 17 December 2007, 08:19 PM

It's a fugazzi.

vukotab · 17 December 2007, 08:41 PM

That must be fake.My uncle have black SS Sub and the fonts on the dial are totally different then those on pics.

Welshwatchman · 17 December 2007, 08:52 PM

Yep, the fake has now been moved to the appropriate section. Should have been there in the first place.

I would be interested in how much you friend paid for the watch.

$100 or $3500-4000. Either way he has been shafted or knowingly bought a stinker.

FBender · 17 December 2007, 09:39 PM

No probs about the moving the post, apologies for putting it in the wrong forum.

He paid $2900 Australian.

jac67 · 17 December 2007, 10:33 PM

Agree with all the above Phil, the whole watch is a FAKE, sorry!

Too many issues.

John.

Wolfgang427 · 18 December 2007, 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FBender

No probs about the moving the post, apologies for putting it in the wrong forum.

He paid $2900 Australian.

Sorry to hear that, but it's as fake as a wooden nickle.

try to recoup the money if possible.

17 December 2007, 03:41 PM	#1
FBender Member Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Phil Location: Perth Australia Watch: LV Posts: 201	Submariner 16610 A mate of mine purchased a 2003 16610 a while ago from another aussie on that auction site. Finally got to catch up with him and check the watch out. No papers, box etc looks dinkum. He thinks it is a fake. It has the etching, to the best of my knowledge the dial etc looks fine. He has had the back off at a jeweller and apparently on the inside of the back cover it didnt say Geneva etc, but the movement was right so he said. Would someone be able to tell me if the following bracelet numbers are correct for this submariner and what should be on the inside of the back cover please. Endlinks - 93253 Clasp - 6248-19 M12 Thanks Phil

17 December 2007, 03:50 PM	#2
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	All of the above doesn't mean a thing until we see some pics. Today's fakes are mind-blowingly good....very, very good. Some pics will help us determine the facts. Cheers - JJ __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

17 December 2007, 04:41 PM	#3
FBender Member Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Phil Location: Perth Australia Watch: LV Posts: 201	As requested Attached Images

17 December 2007, 06:02 PM	#5
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	Yes, that is a fake. Dial font is all wrong, and end pieces don't look that way on the underside. Font on the bezel is wrong, too. Bezel pearl is missing or was never there. Anyway, looks wrong, too. __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

17 December 2007, 06:36 PM	#8
time "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Euro Posts: 522	Sorry, mate. It looks fake as Bo & co stated. The bracelet and case are abs. fake. __________________ Time is one of our greatest endeavour....

17 December 2007, 05:53 PM	#4
ROGERB "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Roger Location: WHITE ROCK BC Watch: 89 16610, 57 7914, Posts: 897	I do not purport to be an expert but the number that should be on that clasp would be 93250 denoting the strap for that model.... the number 93253 is for a TT gold and SS bracelet. The last time I saw a bezel with the pearl missing that looked like that bezel was a co-worker with a fake. I'm afraid the evidence as you have described with the inside case back smells very faux! P.S. The clasp code (M) is for a 1988! R

17 December 2007, 06:16 PM	#7
FBender Member Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Phil Location: Perth Australia Watch: LV Posts: 201	Thanks fellas, looks like its bad news. The bezel pearl fell out on a street in London. Just goes to show never can be to careful. Appreciate your time

17 December 2007, 06:43 PM	#9
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	I reported it since it belongs in the WatchOut section just if you wonder why it's being moved soon. __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

17 December 2007, 08:19 PM	#10
walds11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Adam Location: Philly ‘burbs Posts: 5,660	It's a fugazzi.

17 December 2007, 08:41 PM	#11
vukotab "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Vukota Brajovi Location: Belgrade,Serbia Watch: ing movies! Posts: 3,812	That must be fake.My uncle have black SS Sub and the fonts on the dial are totally different then those on pics.

17 December 2007, 08:52 PM	#12
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	Yep, the fake has now been moved to the appropriate section. Should have been there in the first place. I would be interested in how much you friend paid for the watch. $100 or $3500-4000. Either way he has been shafted or knowingly bought a stinker. __________________ ..33

17 December 2007, 09:39 PM	#13
FBender Member Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Phil Location: Perth Australia Watch: LV Posts: 201	No probs about the moving the post, apologies for putting it in the wrong forum. He paid $2900 Australian.

17 December 2007, 10:33 PM	#14
jac67 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: John Location: Australia Watch: Me Posts: 1,950	Agree with all the above Phil, the whole watch is a FAKE, sorry! Too many issues. John.

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