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4vCoupe · 29 March 2013, 09:37 AM

What does everyone think about this Tudor snowflake?
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Dsaltydog · 29 March 2013, 11:24 AM

Adore it! I'm biased, I have one as well

HL65 · 29 March 2013, 11:28 AM

Very nice--classics!!

4vCoupe · 29 March 2013, 12:11 PM

Does everything look correct?

MichaelB_Can · 29 March 2013, 01:04 PM

From what I can see it looks good .

Mike B , Canada ⌚

drainaps · 29 March 2013, 09:14 PM

Photo is taken at an angle such that one cannot assess how polished the case is. The crown guards, the date disk or the cyclops all remain hidden. All of them must-sees to assess how kosher the watch is.

Picture does not have enough resolution on the dial, but lume does not look dark enough for how deteriorated the lume plots are. I am aware that darkness and deterioration should not necessarily go hand in hand, but lume looks too light to me. Apart from that, the dial looks alright.

Does it look downright bad /fake? No. Would I buy based on this pic? No.

harry in montreal · 30 March 2013, 02:45 AM

Post a link to the auction. I also don't entirely like the dial. Seems too clean but I need more

flybooey · 30 March 2013, 03:48 AM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/400445835356...356%26_rdc%3D1

flybooey · 30 March 2013, 03:49 AM

Was this out of range too?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/370778613997...84.m1423.l2649

1675-David · 30 March 2013, 04:26 AM

Buy the Seller as they say around here and in this case I wouldn't buy from someone who is banned over at VRF for selling fake merchandize.

Micha · 30 March 2013, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 1675-David

Buy the Seller as they say around here and in this case I wouldn't buy from someone who is banned over at VRF for selling fake merchandize.

is this the seller you are referring to? Banned from VRF?
g-comex

1675-David · 30 March 2013, 05:03 AM

search for g-comex on VRF

4vCoupe · 30 March 2013, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1675-David

search for g-comex on VRF

Thanks for the heads up. That is the seller. It seemed odd there were no pictures of the date window and I noticed in one of the pictures some damage to the dial in that area. When I asked about it he did confirm there was damage there. Not sure if he was intentionally hiding this but it seems like it from the lack of pictures.

drainaps · 30 March 2013, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 4vCoupe

Thanks for the heads up. That is the seller. It seemed odd there were no pictures of the date window and I noticed in one of the pictures some damage to the dial in that area. When I asked about it he did confirm there was damage there. Not sure if he was intentionally hiding this but it seems like it from the lack of pictures.

That picture was not shot at that angle by chance, hence my initial comment. It's somebody with knowledge of watches and wanting to hide something that shoots at such an angle. The possible reasons: damaged dial, as you state, over polished case, replacement date disk, or altogether fake. Was it intentional? Of course it was.

I might have seen this watch in HK recently, if it has dial damage in the date window area as you say.

Now that I think of it, shouldn't we have a Dealer blacklist somewhere in the Forum too? I know it's risky, but I think we should. At least we should have threads with Dealer names where customers chime in and talk about their transactions....

MichaelB_Can · 1 April 2013, 12:27 PM

He knows the picture angles that buyers want ! If he's banned , I would stay away , no honour ! Out for himself 100% , lucky you found out now ! 👍

Mike B , Canada ⌚

harry in montreal · 1 April 2013, 11:13 PM

from an academic point of view, i think the case and back and insert are all good. i just dont know what to make of that dial. seems too good to be true. too expensive anyway.

linesiders · 2 April 2013, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by harry in montreal

from an academic point of view, i think the case and back and insert are all good. i just dont know what to make of that dial. seems too good to be true. too expensive anyway.

Dial may be genuine, just damaged as mentioned earlier but not shown in the photos. $3200 head only should be a bit nicer methinks

MichaelB_Can · 2 April 2013, 01:34 AM

As far as Snowflake options go , I believe you can get Black OR Blue . If you have to have Red then you have to go Black Bay !
Lol 😁😜

Mike B , Canada ⌚

powerfunk · 3 April 2013, 07:14 AM

I am always wary when ads for vintage watches boldly state "dial never refinished or retouched or repainted in any way whatsoever" yet they offer no story to back up that certainty. Especially when the patina of the hands and dial perfectly match.

29 March 2013, 09:37 AM	#1
4vCoupe "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: USA Watch: GMT Master 16750 Posts: 795	Snowflake opinions? What does everyone think about this Tudor snowflake?

29 March 2013, 11:24 AM	#2
Dsaltydog "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: David Location: Miami Beach Watch: Vintage Rolex Posts: 327	Adore it! I'm biased, I have one as well __________________ David 16610,16610LV,16613Serti,16622,116520, PAM 088, 1680, 1675,AP ROO AlighaniPolaris,Tudor 9411 ,1665,6536-1,5513,1655,PAM 425 SLC;BLNR,116655

29 March 2013, 11:28 AM	#3
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,011	Very nice--classics!! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

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29 March 2013, 12:11 PM	#4
4vCoupe "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: USA Watch: GMT Master 16750 Posts: 795	Does everything look correct?

29 March 2013, 01:04 PM	#5
MichaelB_Can Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Mike Location: Canada Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 332	From what I can see it looks good . Mike B , Canada ⌚

29 March 2013, 09:14 PM	#6
drainaps "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Shanghai Watch: Too many to tell Posts: 522	Photo is taken at an angle such that one cannot assess how polished the case is. The crown guards, the date disk or the cyclops all remain hidden. All of them must-sees to assess how kosher the watch is. Picture does not have enough resolution on the dial, but lume does not look dark enough for how deteriorated the lume plots are. I am aware that darkness and deterioration should not necessarily go hand in hand, but lume looks too light to me. Apart from that, the dial looks alright. Does it look downright bad /fake? No. Would I buy based on this pic? No.

30 March 2013, 02:45 AM	#7
harry in montreal "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Watch: The Habs pick 1st! Posts: 3,589	Post a link to the auction. I also don't entirely like the dial. Seems too clean but I need more

30 March 2013, 03:48 AM	#8
flybooey "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Dave Location: Pittsburgh Watch: 7021/0 Tudor Sub Posts: 48	http://www.ebay.com/itm/400445835356...356%26_rdc%3D1

30 March 2013, 03:49 AM	#9
flybooey "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Dave Location: Pittsburgh Watch: 7021/0 Tudor Sub Posts: 48	Was this out of range too? http://www.ebay.com/itm/370778613997...84.m1423.l2649

30 March 2013, 04:26 AM	#10
1675-David "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 6,061	Buy the Seller as they say around here and in this case I wouldn't buy from someone who is banned over at VRF for selling fake merchandize.

30 March 2013, 05:03 AM	#12
1675-David "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 6,061	search for g-comex on VRF

1 April 2013, 12:27 PM	#15
MichaelB_Can Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Mike Location: Canada Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 332	He knows the picture angles that buyers want ! If he's banned , I would stay away , no honour ! Out for himself 100% , lucky you found out now ! 👍 Mike B , Canada ⌚

1 April 2013, 11:13 PM	#16
harry in montreal "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Watch: The Habs pick 1st! Posts: 3,589	from an academic point of view, i think the case and back and insert are all good. i just dont know what to make of that dial. seems too good to be true. too expensive anyway.

2 April 2013, 01:34 AM	#18
MichaelB_Can Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Mike Location: Canada Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 332	As far as Snowflake options go , I believe you can get Black OR Blue . If you have to have Red then you have to go Black Bay ! Lol 😁😜 Mike B , Canada ⌚

3 April 2013, 07:14 AM	#19
powerfunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Rob Location: Boston, MA Watch: 1530 Posts: 3,799	I am always wary when ads for vintage watches boldly state "dial never refinished or retouched or repainted in any way whatsoever" yet they offer no story to back up that certainty. Especially when the patina of the hands and dial perfectly match.

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