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Old 19 October 2013, 11:00 PM   #1
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i need help

now i know it is not the kind of forum to discuss such matters and i don't want to bother you guys. i recently bought a submariner 114060 ceramic . i am going to start by saying it was a dream watch for 3 years . an most importantly i am a PERFECTIONIST when it comes to objects and i hate that fact . i was SOO pleased with the sub c the first week but recently , i discovered that the clasp is welded to the bracelet instead of being pinned or screwed and that made me very sad about the sub i just don't find it good anymore because of just that i really hate myself for that i mean i have what i always wanted but because of the simple fact that the clasp is welded to the bracelet i can't seem to enjoy it can you guys help me or is it just the wrong forum ?
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Old 19 October 2013, 11:02 PM   #2
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Very sad that it is welded? Hmmm....perhaps you do need to change to another watch...best not to sweat it, and try to enjoy it!
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Old 19 October 2013, 11:06 PM   #3
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sell it, use your phone to tell time
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Old 19 October 2013, 11:11 PM   #4
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Nothing wrong with a weld !

There was some issues early on but it appears Rolex have addressed it so way worry !

I've seen/heard more issues of screws coming out then failing welds, food for thought.

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Old 19 October 2013, 11:15 PM   #5
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Do you have a Car, Motorcycle, bike? If you do, Its got welded part too!
What do you have against welding?? Most of the time it IS the best way to join metals together. Don't sweat it! The Sub-C is one of the best watches you can get! I know.. I've got one too!
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Old 19 October 2013, 11:17 PM   #6
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thanks guys amazing how this forum has so many nice people
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Old 19 October 2013, 11:18 PM   #7
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There are many parts and pieces in a Rolex that could be done differently - and many could debate done better.

How would you react to some of those shortcomings?

My suggestion is to realize a weld is not the "big" issue you think it is...and worry more about the desk swirls
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Old 19 October 2013, 11:39 PM   #8
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The 114060 is as close to the perfect watch. In fact I think it is. Enjoy the watch and the best clasp on the market.
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Old 19 October 2013, 11:50 PM   #9
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No problem with a welded clasp these days that I am aware of. Don't dwell on this one thing. Rather, dwell on and celebrate the thousand things that ARE right and good about this watch.
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Old 20 October 2013, 12:56 AM   #10
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Here's a nice non-welded watch.
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Old 20 October 2013, 12:59 AM   #11
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Here's a nice non-welded watch.
thats it gonna sell my sub to get this perfection
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Old 20 October 2013, 01:02 AM   #12
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Like everyone else, I think you may be needlessly obsessing over a non-issue. Enjoy your sub and wear it as intended without worry.
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Old 20 October 2013, 01:11 AM   #13
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I love my sub's. Could care less that it has a weld. As long as nothing falls apart.
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Old 20 October 2013, 01:14 AM   #14
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thats it gonna sell my sub to get this perfection
Suddenly, the welds don't look so bad
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Old 20 October 2013, 03:31 AM   #15
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Look thru this forum, hundreds of satisfied and problem free Subc owners. Now look at you. Now look at us. Now look at you. Now become like us.
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Old 20 October 2013, 05:45 AM   #16
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Old 20 October 2013, 06:04 AM   #17
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Old 20 October 2013, 06:05 AM   #18
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Old 20 October 2013, 06:11 AM   #19
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If that is such a major issue for you, wouldn't it have been wise to take a look before buying one?
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Old 20 October 2013, 06:18 AM   #20
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Old 20 October 2013, 06:59 AM   #21
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You have a great watch there, so just enjoy the rest of the bracelet and the awesome watch head.
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Old 20 October 2013, 07:08 AM   #22
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It is what it is.

Some people have expressed views that they thought the old clasp was superior for this very reason. To date, I don't think those concerns have been realised though. I have a sub c and I certainly don't give it a second thought.

Also, if it does fail before you've had it for 2 years, it will still be under warranty.
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Old 20 October 2013, 07:59 AM   #23
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Tobey, I'm on the lookout to trade my 16610 for a 114060 if you want the older bracelet ;)


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Old 20 October 2013, 08:22 AM   #24
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The third thread with this same topic, all from new members bloodrain, rickgrimes (who were the same) and now tobey_fischer?
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Old 20 October 2013, 09:38 AM   #25
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I see his point. He is not saying that he fears the weld failing and his watch falling off his wrist. He is saying that he expected something else. Granted most would research a multi-thousand dollar purchase more thoroughly prior to handing over the money, but clearly he expected something else and discovered it after the purchase.

As others have suggested, now that you have discovered his about your watch I would be satisfied knowing that the weld doesn't fail that often. If you really want to have a change I would suggest you sell or trade this newer sub for one of the classic discontinued versions with the classic style bracelet and clasp.

Not only will you get more of what you had in mind BUT you will have the added BONUS of getting a watch that will only go up in value as you wear it and enjoy it for years to come...and some people (including myself) would go a step further and say that the classic design is actually more pleasing to the eye than the newer version.
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Old 20 October 2013, 09:55 AM   #26
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The third thread with this same topic, all from new members bloodrain, rickgrimes (who were the same) and now tobey_fischer?
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I'm with ya. Seems to be a lot of pointless thread starters popping up recently. Not to mention yesterday's thread by the same guy on the exact same subject. Give it a rest man.
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Old 20 October 2013, 09:56 AM   #27
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Rolex would have subjected this new clasp to countless mechanical tests to confirm the strength and longevity of this bracelet.
If you look at the cross section of the weld you will see that it is bigger than the cross section of the springbar pins and these pins are still the same as has been used on similar Rolex models.
The aesthetics of a weld compared to a non welded bracelets is a personal like or dislike and I understand where you are coming from.
A 1/16" (1.6mm diameter) monel 4130 steel rivet shears at about 370lbs.
Two together as in a springbar is 760lbs.
Probably more than your wrist could take.
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Rolex would have subjected this new clasp to countless mechanical tests to confirm the strength and longevity of this bracelet.
If you look at the cross section of the weld you will see that it is bigger than the cross section of the springbar pins and these pins are still the same as has been used on similar Rolex models.
The aesthetics of a weld compared to a non welded bracelets is a personal like or dislike and I understand where you are coming from.
A 1/16" (1.6mm diameter) monel 4130 steel rivet shears at about 370lbs.
Two together as in a springbar is 760lbs.
Probably more than your wrist could take.
I would sure hope something on my watch bracelet let go before my wrist did if it got hung on something!
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Old 20 October 2013, 10:10 PM   #30
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I would sure hope something on my watch bracelet let go before my wrist did if it got hung on something!
Probably won't. Had a worker lose a finger because of the nature of his titanium wedding ring. Ouch....
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