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Old 26 January 2014, 12:12 PM   #1
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Ok so i leave my 2 watches in their winders, just was curious if there was anything maintenance wise that i had to do on my own every so often? Winding the watch etc.
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Old 26 January 2014, 12:57 PM   #2
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Old 26 January 2014, 02:32 PM   #3
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Old 26 January 2014, 02:40 PM   #4
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Old 26 January 2014, 08:53 PM   #5
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If you have to hand wind them then what's the point of the winder?

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Old 26 January 2014, 09:10 PM   #6
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Ok so i leave my 2 watches in their winders, just was curious if there was anything maintenance wise that i had to do on my own every so often? Winding the watch etc.
I don't quite understand you buy two watches to put on machines,what wrong with the wrists they were designed for. Plus the fact both have winding crowns to wind set watch when its needed to tell time on the wrist.
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Old 26 January 2014, 09:17 PM   #7
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Wear and enjoy them--there is no need to wind fully wound watches.
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Old 26 January 2014, 10:16 PM   #8
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I don't quite understand you buy two watches to put on machines,what wrong with the wrists they were designed for. Plus the fact both have winding crowns to wind set watch when its needed to tell time on the wrist.
I think so if you don't wear one for four or five days you do not have to set time and date. You can also track accuracy if your interested in that.
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Old 26 January 2014, 10:49 PM   #9
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I think so if you don't wear one for four or five days you do not have to set time and date. You can also track accuracy if your interested in that.
Part of the joy of owning an automatic mechanical watch for me IS setting the time and date. With just 2 watches, there is no way I would use a winder
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Old 26 January 2014, 11:23 PM   #10
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I think so if you don't wear one for four or five days you do not have to set time and date. You can also track accuracy if your interested in that.
Well to wind and reset any Rolex watch must take all of 20 seconds and a watch on a machine the accuracy is not always the same on the wrist.Now most watches winders only have a back and throe motion on the same repetitive plane and axis.Now when the uncased movements are COSC tested they are tested in 5 different positions and temperatures to mimic what goes on while on the wrist.
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Old 26 January 2014, 11:35 PM   #11
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With only two watches, I would not use my winder. However with 5, I keep the calendar models on the winder so they are ready to wear when the urge hits.
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Old 27 January 2014, 12:01 AM   #12
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I prefer not to use watch winders,,,,,,,,,,,,,i adjust as and when , required ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,wind all watches once a month. approx.
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Old 27 January 2014, 01:08 AM   #13
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You don't need a watch winder, IMO. The good ones are expensive. Put that money toward another watch.
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Old 27 January 2014, 01:13 AM   #14
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With only two watches, I would not use my winder. However with 5, I keep the calendar models on the winder so they are ready to wear when the urge hits.
Yep! With only two watches I wouldn't bother. Annual Calendar is another story.
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Old 27 January 2014, 01:16 AM   #15
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been using watch winders for a while so the auto's are ready....never an issue

currently have 7 autos, and am looking for #8
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been using watch winders for a while so the auto's are ready....never an issue

currently have 7 autos, and am looking for #8
Would admit they could be always ready but ready for what, even on a machine you have to reset the time date a few times unless you have a watch in a million that keeps 100% perfect time.Myself just cannot see the point in putting extra wear on any movement running 24/7 if its not needed to tell the time on wrist.Just let them stop and rest reset when needed takes less than 30 seconds with any Rolex watch.
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Old 27 January 2014, 02:44 AM   #17
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Would admit they could be always ready but ready for what, even on a machine you have to reset the time date a few times unless you have a watch in a million that keeps 100% perfect time.Myself just cannot see the point in putting extra wear on any movement running 24/7 if its not needed to tell the time on wrist.Just let them stop and rest reset when needed takes less than 30 seconds with any Rolex watch.
ok, guess you won't be buying a winder anytime soon....8^)
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Old 27 January 2014, 03:26 AM   #18
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Would admit they could be always ready but ready for what, even on a machine you have to reset the time date a few times unless you have a watch in a million that keeps 100% perfect time.Myself just cannot see the point in putting extra wear on any movement running 24/7 if its not needed to tell the time on wrist.Just let them stop and rest reset when needed takes less than 30 seconds with any Rolex watch.
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Old 27 January 2014, 03:48 AM   #19
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Ok so i leave my 2 watches in their winders, just was curious if there was anything maintenance wise that i had to do on my own every so often? Winding the watch etc.
Nothing more needs to be done just enjoy your watches & winders. No shame in that!!!
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Old 27 January 2014, 06:23 AM   #20
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Well to wind and reset any Rolex watch must take all of 20 seconds and a watch on a machine the accuracy is not always the same on the wrist.Now most watches winders only have a back and throe motion on the same repetitive plane and axis.Now when the uncased movements are COSC tested they are tested in 5 different positions and temperatures to mimic what goes on while on the wrist.
Spot on, as usual. On a bi-directional winder my BLNR looses 15 seconds in a week. On the wrist, it's +.025 seconds per day over a week period. It is much happier on the wrist.
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Old 27 January 2014, 01:49 PM   #21
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If you fellas don't mind the time setting procedure, or actually get some enjoyment out of it, god bless you all. I keep 2 autos (the 116233 being one) always on winder and 'good to go'. I find setting date and time annoying.

I also have a slew of other autos that are not on winder so I know what I know about having to set them, and even if it's a no-date model, I just find it an annoyance.

The World will have to exist another day with 2 kinds of Rolex owners: Winder Guys and the rest of ya.
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LoL, I agree

Had my winder long before I got my Rolex
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Ok so i leave my 2 watches in their winders, just was curious if there was anything maintenance wise that i had to do on my own every so often? Winding the watch etc.
If having them running at the right time is important to you then leaving them on the winder is a good approach. On the other hand if you aren't wearing them then leaving them in run down condition will prolong the time between servicings.
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Old 27 January 2014, 06:23 PM   #24
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Does Rolex have an official recommendation on using winders or not? My AD suggested me using one and gave me one.

Instead of asking the benefits of using one (I know many question the benefits), may I ask what the disadvantages are for using one?

I am new to the forum and appreciate for many of you sharing your expertise.
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Old 27 January 2014, 06:53 PM   #25
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Does Rolex have an official recommendation on using winders or not? My AD suggested me using one and gave me one.

Instead of asking the benefits of using one (I know many question the benefits), may I ask what the disadvantages are for using one?

I am new to the forum and appreciate for many of you sharing your expertise.
A winder is essentially a trade-off between convenience and wear. The only practical reason (other than liking to look at them go round and round or displaying them on a winder) is the convenience of not having to set or wind the watch as often. The only practical reason to not use one is to save wear and tear on a watch by running it when you're not wearing it.

A movement in motion will incur wear. So a watch that is always running, whether on a winder or in a drawer, will wear faster than one that is not running. This can mean stretching service intervals (saving money), fewer parts replacements at service (saving money), or more time before parts start wearing out.

Not saying a Rolex won't last decades either way, but a running movement will wear faster than one that isn't.

Hope this helps.
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@Ferguson, thanks for the info. I searched and read the previous post about winders. I understood there shouldn't be much concern about the 'oil' being dried up. Just one more 'dum' question - any concern about the 'power reserve'? If the watch is sitting, will it eventually decrease the 'power reserve' of the watch?

Assume if a watch has 40 hours in power reserve, will it slowly go down to 30 or less if it is not being wore everyday and not in a winder? Could that be a reason of using a winder?
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Question, wouldnt manually winding it everytime you intend to wear it could damage the thread of the crown?
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Question, wouldnt manually winding it everytime you intend to wear it could damage the thread of the crown?
What about the thousands possible millions on manual wind watches Rolex included with screw down crowns,now they got wound up daily for years without any problems.Plus things like crowns and crown tubes are just normal service items and are changed as part of normal service same for the mainsprings.
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Old 28 January 2014, 01:52 AM   #29
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Of all the issues I have had with watches it has always been damage to the crown and / or stem. Having to wind them, change the date etc worries me, however the issues were always with my Hublots :-)
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@Ferguson, thanks for the info. I searched and read the previous post about winders. I understood there shouldn't be much concern about the 'oil' being dried up. Just one more 'dum' question - any concern about the 'power reserve'? If the watch is sitting, will it eventually decrease the 'power reserve' of the watch?

Assume if a watch has 40 hours in power reserve, will it slowly go down to 30 or less if it is not being wore everyday and not in a winder? Could that be a reason of using a winder?
Not to my knowledge. If anything I'd think a mainspring under maximum tension constantly would lose power, but don't know that this is the case either. In any event, the mainspring is not an expensive part and is often replaced as part of routine service.
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