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teddy gmt · 27 February 2008, 06:27 PM

As my tiny knowledge about Rolex, I know that one model that being used this new spring is GMT II Ceramic.... My question is,

1) Is that any another model also being used this new spring....(YM II ?, Milligus?

2) Or How about other models that just made really recently eg. Sub--LV--?? Oh! If now I really interested in LV, Do they still making it recently? Any news that they are going to discont? For the leatest year make, Is it engrave with RL inside at the edge of dial?

Thanks you guys in advance!!

SPACE-DWELLER · 27 February 2008, 06:33 PM

The following Rolex movements have the Parachrom Bleu hairspring:

1)

Daytona Cal. 4130
GMT IIc Cal. 3186
YM II Cal. 4160
Milgauss Cal. 3131 and
(possibly), still not verified, yet: the Cal. 3185 beating inside the latest Explorer II's.

2)

The LV has not been discontinued, yet. We will know more after the Basel Fair. As for the CRB (Chapter Ring Branding), the LV has it now, too (depending on the serial number).

teddy gmt · 27 February 2008, 06:46 PM

Thanks Space dweller!!

So for LV, we have to wait and see after Basel 08 then we will know for sure right?

As you mention that "Cal. 3185 beating inside the latest Explorer II's I have not seen the new EX II yet( I mean in term of design, Do they already have launched of new design??) Or they just the same design as before but they might put a new movment?

Thanks thanks and sorry to bother you again.
Teddy

SPACE-DWELLER · 27 February 2008, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teddy gmt

Thanks Space dweller!!

So for LV, we have to wait and see after Basel 08 then we will know for sure right?

As you mention that "Cal. 3185 beating inside the latest Explorer II's I have not seen the new EX II yet( I mean in term of design, Do they already have launched of new design??) Or they just the same design as before but they might put a new movment?

Thanks thanks and sorry to bother you again.
Teddy

No. There have been no recent (outer) updates to the design of the Explorer II. But there have been reports that the Parachrom Bleu hairspring has been seen installed in the Cal. 3185 movt. that now only beats inside the Explorer II.
The Cal. 3185 movt. was also used in the (old-style) GMT II's until they were discontinued in 2007.

CPTL · 27 February 2008, 07:58 PM

???

I thought the only diff between 3185 and 3186 was the spring.

teddy gmt · 28 February 2008, 04:10 AM

thganks again Space Dweller,

I see, you are much appreciated!

SPACE-DWELLER · 28 February 2008, 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPTL

???

I thought the only diff between 3185 and 3186 was the spring.

No, they're not the same thing. If you go the Rolex & Other Watch Links & Resources you find a link to omegarolex. There you can compare the movts.

Click here.

Jocke · 28 February 2008, 04:42 AM

My 1601 with cal 1570 have the new spring.

I got it when

remove my crystal.

Jocke

f16570 · 28 February 2008, 04:49 AM

Jocke, WTF? How did you do that?

SSD · 28 February 2008, 10:01 AM

Oh, no he didn't!?!?!?

SPACE-DWELLER · 28 February 2008, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f16570

Jocke, WTF? How did you do that?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSD

Oh, no he didn't!?!?!?

Don't worry! It's one of Jocke's "Fake destroyal" pics. He has more of those pics as far as can recall.

Solo118 · 28 February 2008, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPACE-DWELLER

Don't worry! It's one of Jocke's "Fake destroyal" pics. He has more of those pics as far as can recall.

Oh thank gd its a fake....

CPTL · 28 February 2008, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPACE-DWELLER

No, they're not the same thing. If you go the Rolex & Other Watch Links & Resources you find a link to omegarolex. There you can compare the movts.

Click here.

I can't really tell by looking at the photos, but here are the descriptions from OmegaRolex:

3185
Specifications
Caliber: 3185
Year Introduced: 1988
Power Reserve: 50 Hours
Jewels: 31 Jewels
Description: GMT Hand, Free-sprung balance, Breguet overcoil hairspring - COSC Certified

Rolex With This Movement
Explorer II · GMT-Master II (1989)

3186
Specifications
Caliber: 3186
Year Introduced: 2005
Power Reserve: 50 Hours
Jewels: 31 Jewels
Description: GMT Hand, Free-sprung balance, Parachrom-Blu Hairspring, Chronometre Certified

Rolex With This Movement
GMT-Master II (IIc)

904L_addict · 28 February 2008, 04:11 PM

I don't have a M Exp II but if I did, I'd open it to confirm once and for all if it has a 3186 ticking inside. Hard to believe no one has done this yet.

27 February 2008, 06:27 PM	#1
teddy gmt Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Thailand Posts: 28	The blue PARACHROME model? As my tiny knowledge about Rolex, I know that one model that being used this new spring is GMT II Ceramic.... My question is, 1) Is that any another model also being used this new spring....(YM II ?, Milligus? 2) Or How about other models that just made really recently eg. Sub--LV--?? Oh! If now I really interested in LV, Do they still making it recently? Any news that they are going to discont? For the leatest year make, Is it engrave with RL inside at the edge of dial? Thanks you guys in advance!!

27 February 2008, 06:33 PM	#2
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	The following Rolex movements have the Parachrom Bleu hairspring: 1) Daytona Cal. 4130 GMT IIc Cal. 3186 YM II Cal. 4160 Milgauss Cal. 3131 and (possibly), still not verified, yet: the Cal. 3185 beating inside the latest Explorer II's. 2) The LV has not been discontinued, yet. We will know more after the Basel Fair. As for the CRB (Chapter Ring Branding), the LV has it now, too (depending on the serial number). __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

27 February 2008, 06:46 PM	#3
teddy gmt Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Thailand Posts: 28	Exii?? Thanks Space dweller!! So for LV, we have to wait and see after Basel 08 then we will know for sure right? As you mention that "Cal. 3185 beating inside the latest Explorer II's I have not seen the new EX II yet( I mean in term of design, Do they already have launched of new design??) Or they just the same design as before but they might put a new movment? Thanks thanks and sorry to bother you again. Teddy

28 February 2008, 04:42 AM	#8
Jocke 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Jocke Location: Sweden Watch: A dozen of Rolex's Posts: 22,541	My 1601 with cal 1570 have the new spring. I got it when remove my crystal. Jocke __________________ This message is written in perfect swenglish. What is best a custom Rolex or a Rolex that is stuck in custom? Buy a professional camera and you´re a professional photographer, buy a flute and you own a flute.

28 February 2008, 04:49 AM	#9
f16570 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: F Location: Scotland Watch: Exp II White Face Posts: 4,272	Jocke, WTF? How did you do that? __________________ Why have what's new when you have what's best. f

27 February 2008, 07:58 PM	#5
CPTL "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Kevin Location: Texas on my mind Watch: Sub Date; SS/WG DJ Posts: 2,445	??? I thought the only diff between 3185 and 3186 was the spring.

28 February 2008, 04:10 AM	#6
teddy gmt Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Thailand Posts: 28	thganks again Space Dweller, I see, you are much appreciated!

28 February 2008, 10:01 AM	#10
SSD "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Jamie Location: Georgia Watch: Stainless Sub Date Posts: 3,023	Oh, no he didn't!?!?!? __________________ SUBMARINER OWNERS' CLUB ESTABLISHED 1953 TRF Member # 5464

28 February 2008, 04:11 PM	#14
904L_addict Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Steven Location: the OC Watch: SS GMT II-C, SD Posts: 186	I don't have a M Exp II but if I did, I'd open it to confirm once and for all if it has a 3186 ticking inside. Hard to believe no one has done this yet.

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