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Old 4 December 2014, 01:45 AM   #1
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Can a 16610 be vintage?

I think an open 6/9 date wheel helps the argument!



Incoming 16610 from 1989, L-Serial. Many don't know, but for the first few years of the 3135 movement, Rolex still used an open 6/9 date wheel design which I think it awesome.

Should I pick up an era correct 93150, or put my more modern 93250 on it instead?
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Old 4 December 2014, 01:50 AM   #2
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Open 6 is a nice find if original to a modern watch... but doesn't make it vintage. Whatever bracelet you like makes sense...
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Old 4 December 2014, 03:07 AM   #3
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That's cool, I didn't know that about the open 6's on 16610.

93150 is the easiest and cheapest solution and a time tested bracelet.
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Old 4 December 2014, 03:10 AM   #4
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looks sweet , but if its saphire , its not vintage ,, just my views,, they will change no doubt over the next 35 years or so,,,,
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Old 4 December 2014, 04:10 AM   #5
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Old 4 December 2014, 05:16 AM   #6
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looks sweet , but if its saphire , its not vintage ,, just my views,, they will change no doubt over the next 35 years or so,,,,

16800 matte is vintage. id say a 16520 is vintage also.
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Old 4 December 2014, 05:23 AM   #7
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16800 matte is vintage. id say a 16520 is vintage also.
saphire isnt vintage in my book ,,, but it will be ,, its the same tide that lifts all the boats
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Old 4 December 2014, 06:48 AM   #8
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saphire isnt vintage in my book ,,, but it will be ,, its the same tide that lifts all the boats
so this 5513 is "more vintage" than this 16800?
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Old 4 December 2014, 06:54 AM   #9
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I think an open 6/9 date wheel helps the argument!

Incoming 16610 from 1989, L-Serial. Many don't know, but for the first few years of the 3135 movement, Rolex still used an open 6/9 date wheel design which I think it awesome.

Should I pick up an era correct 93150, or put my more modern 93250 on it instead?
Let's call it neo-vintage... (I have a '92 myself).

I don't think the 93250 will fit. The 16610 case for the SELs was slightly different. The 93150 is the correct bracelet for that watch and will fit for sure (and will look more vintage too).
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Old 4 December 2014, 07:27 AM   #10
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Hilarious thread, I'm still laughing. It definitely made my day.
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Old 4 December 2014, 08:38 AM   #11
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How about post-vintage

[QUOTE=Blackdog;5443452]Let's call it neo-vintage... (I have a '92 myself).
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Old 4 December 2014, 09:22 AM   #12
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Let's call it neo-vintage... (I have a '92 myself).

I don't think the 93250 will fit. The 16610 case for the SELs was slightly different. The 93150 is the correct bracelet for that watch and will fit for sure (and will look more vintage too).
Exactly.. If it does not have the "ledge/lip" machined on the backside between the lugs, the SEL will not fit.

Not sure exactly when they started machining the lip, but it was several years before the 93250 became standard (and was never machined on the 14060M) and some 16610's can and some can't fit an SEL.
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Old 4 December 2014, 11:55 AM   #13
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Hilarious thread, I'm still laughing. It definitely made my day.
Glad I could help! Haha.

BTW, it's got the LIP



One of the things I checked along with the open 6/9 date wheel

Interesting why they would have machined the lip before they had the SEL bracelet. I wonder if the lip could have had some other purpose before the SEL bracelet came along?
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Old 4 December 2014, 12:18 PM   #14
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Old 4 December 2014, 12:30 PM   #15
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Glad I could help! Haha.

BTW, it's got the LIP


One of the things I checked along with the open 6/9 date wheel

Interesting why they would have machined the lip before they had the SEL bracelet. I wonder if the lip could have had some other purpose before the SEL bracelet came along?
Determining whether a watch is vintage or not by having a particuliar date wheel was quite amusing - I obviously didn't believe you were serious.

As far as 16610s being vintage - not yet, but soon.

Enjoy your Sub and sometime when you have a free minute, stop by and see Chamosa on Preston Road and tell him you want a vintage date wheel for your Sub.
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Old 4 December 2014, 01:18 PM   #16
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Lol read below

My son was born in 1995 he has the same watch so to him and his peers (non wis types) it's vintage..

To us it's in the cuffs...
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Old 4 December 2014, 01:19 PM   #17
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Old 4 December 2014, 01:20 PM   #18
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Correction he has a 16800
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Old 4 December 2014, 01:26 PM   #19
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Any watch IMHO with WG surrounds is not vintage in my book.
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Old 4 December 2014, 01:50 PM   #20
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Correction he has a 16800
what makes u think that?
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Old 4 December 2014, 02:18 PM   #21
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Correction he has a 16800
Who has a 16800? Your son, or me?
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Old 4 December 2014, 02:20 PM   #22
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Determining whether a watch is vintage or not by having a particuliar date wheel was quite amusing - I obviously didn't believe you were serious.
Yes. I was indeed being tongue and cheek. But the date wheel is a cool detail that I don't think many people would notice. All the singe digits are "blown up" to take up the whole date window. Can't wait to see it in person.
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Old 4 December 2014, 04:43 PM   #23
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Old 4 December 2014, 04:54 PM   #24
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Vintage ! . I have a March 93 16610 and have had a 93250 on it but changed back to a 93150 with 501bs last year as tools said both will fit if you have the lip and it seams yours has so its up to you.

I love these topics because I didn't know about the lip till today and will be in the safe later checking if my 16610 has a open 6 - 9


Thanks to the OP I have learnt two things today not sure if I think my 16610 is vintage though
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Old 4 December 2014, 04:58 PM   #25
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Yes. I was indeed being tongue and cheek. But the date wheel is a cool detail that I don't think many people would notice. All the singe digits are "blown up" to take up the whole date window. Can't wait to see it in person.

no-one here notices stuff like that
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Old 4 December 2014, 10:24 PM   #26
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We're not "most people", haha.
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