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Old 17 December 2014, 05:14 AM   #31
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OCD kicking-in......must resist......
I wish I had the answer, but I don't. I guess it would be dependent on the 1.2mm vs the 1mm ends and also the reduction in length extending into the lug.

BTW......Don't settle. If you want a 16710 with drilled-through lugs, get one. My advice would be to look for something around a K-serial. Drilled through lugs and SELs....best of both worlds. Also, don't fret about it having the Coke, Pepsi, or Black insert.....buy whatever watch is in the best condition that you can afford regardless of bezel insert color. The insert is easy enough to replace and you will likely want to end-up with at least a coke and a Pepsi insert anyways.
I have a P serial (I think) Coke bezel 16710 from the year 2000, and it's got lug holes, solid end links, and Superluminova- so perfect.

But where can I buy extra genuine Rolex bezel inserts that didn't come with the watch?
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Old 17 December 2014, 06:06 AM   #32
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These watches are the best valued Rolex out there. Anyone ever place non-shouldered pins in a lug-holed watch. It's almost like fixed bars and very difficult to remove. I think you'll really enjoy the Explorer option Jason.


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Old 17 December 2014, 09:33 PM   #33
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I have a P serial (I think) Coke bezel 16710 from the year 2000, and it's got lug holes, solid end links, and Superluminova- so perfect.

But where can I buy extra genuine Rolex bezel inserts that didn't come with the watch?
Sometimes an AD will sell you one, and they are also for sale here on the forums. You have to pay a bit of a premium, but well worth it IMHO.
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Old 17 December 2014, 09:54 PM   #34
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These watches are the best valued Rolex out there. Anyone ever place non-shouldered pins in a lug-holed watch. It's almost like fixed bars and very difficult to remove. I think you'll really enjoy the Explorer option Jason.


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Thanks Larry

So far, I have really been wearing this one a great deal of the time. I LOVE the shoulderless bars on it. I actually prefer the look of your 216570, but just can't do the 42mm size anymore.
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Old 17 December 2014, 11:53 PM   #35
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So far, I have really been wearing this one a great deal of the time. I LOVE the shoulderless bars on it. I actually prefer the look of your 216570, but just can't do the 42mm size anymore.

I prefer 40mm also, this is my one stab at a modern Rolex. It has more tapered lugs and it does sit fairly flat on my wrist. It's amazing that the additional 1 mm on each side makes such a difference. I had a 1655 at one time and made the mistake of selling it.


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Old 17 December 2014, 11:55 PM   #36
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Old 18 December 2014, 02:55 AM   #37
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I have a red strap, it just isn't as good quality as the MARATACs. I just wish the MARATACs were in a few more colors. Where else can you get a Rolex with the GMT complication and the 3185 movement for less than $3,000??? I think these are a real bargain right now.



FWIW, a rotating bezel is not really a complication.

Still, your point is well taken...
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Old 18 December 2014, 03:23 AM   #38
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FWIW, a rotating bezel is not really a complication.

Still, your point is well taken...
Honestly, I have no idea what you are referring to since the Exp II bezel doesn't rotate. I was referring to the complication of the 'jump' hour hand.
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Old 18 December 2014, 03:45 AM   #39
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Honestly, I have no idea what you are referring to since the Exp II bezel doesn't rotate. I was referring to the complication of the 'jump' hour hand.
I stand corrected.

I haven't handled a GMT in years (like 30!) so I had completely forgotten about that.

As Emily Litella would say, "Never mind"... < me

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Old 18 December 2014, 04:16 AM   #40
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I stand corrected.

I haven't handled a GMT in years (like 30!) so I had completely forgotten about that.

As Emily Litella would say, "Never mind"... < me

It's all good

Yesterday, I had a guy call me on the phone. I actually asked him if he had my correct phone number. He said, "Of course, I just CALLED YOU." I had a brain-fart and felt kinda stupid.
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Old 18 December 2014, 06:41 AM   #41
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I like it Jason. I love that watch, but only in white. Dunno why but I do. The price always amazes me...the ExplorerII Enigma....

One other thing I like is the same as the SD. Never made in Gold.
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Old 22 December 2014, 02:41 AM   #43
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I like it Jason. I love that watch, but only in white. Dunno why but I do. The price always amazes me...the ExplorerII Enigma....

One other thing I like is the same as the SD. Never made in Gold.
I prefer the white also, but it is affordable right now.......so I am considering a black dial also now.
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Old 22 December 2014, 05:47 AM   #44
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Love the Explorer II on orange NATO. Looks good.

Btw, just finished your Lake Superior diving article in Revolution Magazine. Very cool!
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