If you think rolex is expensive what about panerai?

[teo]

Yes not all are ETA. In house movement are great but they are not on lower end model. I maybe someday buy a Panerai too.

[bwalkerVintage]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Bloody ridiculous, ain't it? Get yourself a Rolex!!

I am in full agreement with this statement!!!

[bwalkerVintage]

Originally Posted by BigHat

Yes, you are right in that respect and I sincerely love this site and most of those that contribute. Maybe having a bad day, but suffering fools poorly in any event.
I truly find it hard to understand why someone can fall in love with Rolex and actively become hostile to other brands, but you see people who have little knowledge of watches do it here EVERY day.
I will cease the negativity as I know it adds nothing to the discourse and won't change a thing here. Wow, that Sub is the ultimate watch !!! Amazing that your watch lost a half second in a decade. Congrats, you got a winner but that's easily accomplished by Rolex.

Better?

Out of my system now.

Originally Posted by teo

Its a discussion hope it didn't offend anyone here.

Well, actually this thread is more appropriate for the panerai section of the forum anyway.

[BigHat]

Originally Posted by bwalkerVintage

Well, actually this thread is more appropriate for the panerai section of the forum anyway.

Concur.
If the ill-informed want to trash another brand it would be be best in a section where people actually know what they are talking about instead of a Rolex fanboy section.

Okay, I'm a pain in the ass. I really appreciate Rolex, but I don't think it helps the discussion or advocacy of Rolex to dismiss the facts and fail to make honest comments. We should be honest about Rolex and the other brands at all times.

[jasonbellevue]

I'm a Rolex enthusiast, but I appreciate other watches too, especially the Pam 51, Luminor Marina. Awesome watch.

[miner]

Both my Pams are now worth more (+$1000) than I paid for them, and I have standard models - 112 and 164. My Rollies however have lost money.

[daytona lad]

i like that gold panny,

i think they are quite handsome

how do they stand up to scratches, i mean are they easily scratched in SS or Gold because of the size and exposure and do they have a good service back up like Rolex?

[Lol-x]

One should be mindful that the Daytona had a Zenith movement (not in-house) for a period of time and earlier on had a 72B Valjoux movement. Those watches, especially some of the Valjoux movements Cosmographs are now around $100,000.

Given that Valjoux was taken over by ETA then we may in fact say some Rolex models with ETA movements are worth around $100,000.

[Trurolexer]

Originally Posted by teo

If you think recent price increase in Rolex has made it expensive but wait what about Panerai? The price increase for Panerai is even more, I think it's crazy. ETA movement and leather strap Panerai cost more than a Rolex???

Is that Pannie movement used ETA not their own movement?

[llamaofdoom]

Panerai employs several different movements - inhouse, ETA, Unitas, Valjoux, vintage Angelus and JLC. It just depends on the model.

Why so much for Panerai? Limited production and good fit/finish/detail on the cases, straps, packaging, etc. Movement aside on the more generic pieces, they really are much nicer watches than the typical Rolex, IMHO...and I've loved Rolex for years.

[DSJ]

I finally noticed a Panerai in the wild the other day at the O'Hare Airport. Before joining TRF, I wouldn't have noticed it or known it was anything interesting. And frankly until I saw his, I didn't realize they had a cyclops - I never really studied those shown on TRF. It's not too bad looking, but not my bag baby.

[BigHat]

Originally Posted by DSJ

I finally noticed a Panerai in the wild the other day at the O'Hare Airport. Before joining TRF, I wouldn't have noticed it or known it was anything interesting. And frankly until I saw his, I didn't realize they had a cyclops - I never really studied those shown on TRF. It's not too bad looking, but not my bag baby.

Not all have the cyclops if that's all that bothers you.

[Trurolexer]

Originally Posted by llamaofdoom

Panerai employs several different movements - inhouse, ETA, Unitas, Valjoux, vintage Angelus and JLC. It just depends on the model.

Why so much for Panerai? Limited production and good fit/finish/detail on the cases, straps, packaging, etc. Movement aside on the more generic pieces, they really are much nicer watches than the typical Rolex, IMHO...and I've loved Rolex for years.

Agree with you.

[puffnmo]

I fully agree with those who believe that we do not need to trash other brands, including Panerai, in order to re-enforce our Rolex preferences.

As a watch lover with a great deal to learn, I love and admire many brands and styles. To me the whole fun of the watch hobby is learning to appreciate a wide variety of watches.

I think that not being able to see more than one small segment of a field or only one side of an issue is intellectual lazyness. e.g. even in politics, if I support Obama, I do not need to call Bush an "idiot" (which he is not) to validate my preference. JMO. Larry.

[seantk]

I find the prices for Panerai are very similar to the Rolex prices. I like Panerai and I may even own one someday, perhaps if I do not get a Deep Sea

This post reminds me of a recent thread about Rolex Haters:

Originally Posted by seantk

I have not personally known a hater, but I have seen people on other forums rip Rolex for various reasons... but remember it works both ways. There are other watch brands that I am fascinated with that have some neat engineering features (IMO) and there would be people here who would rip them

"they use ETA movements, they are not COSC, etc"

Sean

Sean

[boa2]

Originally Posted by neilgader

Bo,
How do they attain that kind of reserve?

In case you're interested, this watch -- the PAM270 -- is featured in the latest Watchtime magazine. It's an interesting article.

I'm really lusting after a 243.

[Jedi]

Originally Posted by seantk

I find the prices for Panerai are very similar to the Rolex prices. I like Panerai and I may even own one someday, perhaps if I do not get a Deep Sea

This post reminds me of a recent thread about Rolex Haters:



Sean

Sean, please share some of your thoughts on other brands with cool features that you admire...

...in the relevant section of TRF of course!!

[seantk]

Originally Posted by Jedi

Sean, please share some of your thoughts on other brands with cool features that you admire...

...in the relevant section of TRF of course!!

Thanks - I already have.

Sean

[bimmer]

The only drawback for Panerai is their service. I have one and I like it a lot but their service keeps me from getting a second one due to limited parts inventory and long turnaround time (partly due to waiting time on parts)

[mborkow]

i love the panerais, but can't help but think they are fad and not destined to become classics

[boa2]

Originally Posted by mborkow

i love the panerais, but can't help but think they are fad and not destined to become classics

Only time will tell, but I sure wish I'd bought 10 of 'em when I first got into them 8 years ago. The dollar was strong, I lived in Florence, and they were downright inexpensive. Now, the prices on some of the vintage models, the 203, the 127, and others...unbelievable!

[Jimbits76]

Rolex are wayyyyyy to expensive.

Panerai even more so....now tey are flavour of the month the prices have shot up.

As much as I whinge, b*tch and gripe about Rolex, I'd spend my hardearned on a Rolex way before I shelled out on one of those Italian monsters!

J