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roach7 · 23 December 2011, 05:41 AM

please do not do any business with these guys, they've just ripped off many buyers on ebay!

John&William Bradley
www.John-Watches.com
(503)928-7612
(800)545-2470

email : [email protected]

Bank Name : FIRST PLACE BANK
Name on Account : MJ MANAGEMENT GROUP LLC
Account Number : 56930xxxx
Routing Number : 241271957
Swift Number : FPBSUS33
Bank address : 7290 Sharon Warren Rd,
Brookfield, OH, 44403
Phone: (330) 373-1221

roach7 · 23 December 2011, 07:05 AM

he's also using this bank account :

Chase Bank
Name on Account: John Lewis Inc
Account Number : 42781xxxx
Routing Number : 044000037
Bank address: 120 S Fourth St Coshocton, OH, 43812 Phone: (740)623-4950)

roach7 · 23 December 2011, 07:12 AM

and if you see anyone copying this website, run!

http://www.rolexforums.com/showpost....43&postcount=4

MonBK · 23 December 2011, 07:16 AM

Care to fill us in?

roach7 · 23 December 2011, 07:29 AM

this was a long con perpetrated by the scammers where they hijacked ebay account :

rhino-sales

and built up positive feedback (assumed all fake; now removed) for the last 3 months on high ticket watches. so for anyone that glances at the feedback would think they're legit. then they list 10 to 50 watches on ebay at once with extremely good prices (e.g. RM 005 for $15k) and you see people jumping on the deal. ebay eventually will figure this out but it's too late. so far i know 3 people that fell for the scam and i'm sure there's more.

roach7 · 23 December 2011, 08:05 AM

seems like this scammer has been busy since 2009...

http://www.chronocentric.com/forums/...=read;id=27105

Mosco · 23 December 2011, 08:49 AM

Yeah - this is the TKBarger fraud I have been screaming about for a couple years... Can't believe they coming back....

mrbill2mrbill2 · 23 December 2011, 10:10 AM

Wow!!

AD or trusted TRF seller for me.

roach7 · 23 December 2011, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosco

Yeah - this is the TKBarger fraud I have been screaming about for a couple years... Can't believe they coming back....

you're dead on, greg! this moron even still using the same pictures as before

http://ialreadyhaveawatch.com/2009/0...thomas-barger/

MoBe · 23 December 2011, 06:12 PM

It seems that these fraudsters rely on the fact that law enfocement does not have the resources to go after internet shysters for fraud involving relatively small sums of money.Ad to this the fact that the perpetrators are conducting their "business" from within other countries that require assistance and cooperation from other law enforcement agencies to be caught and it becomes obvious that they will not be put out of business any time soon.

This is the dark side of internet commerce that thrives on the behaviour of those of us too trusting for their own good.Bernie Madoff proved just how difficult it can be for "blinded" investors to perform due diligence even when the facts are staring them straight in the eye

Buyer Beware !

ticktockfanatic · 7 April 2015, 10:14 AM

Guys,

I noticed the last posting on this is in 2011. Well he's back. Buyers beware!

http://ialreadyhaveawatch.com/2009/0...thomas-barger/

http://www.john-watches.com/

also lurking on on ebay now. I'm sure someone already got scammed last week.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/johnldavis/m...1&_ipg=&_from=

23 December 2011, 05:41 AM	#1
roach7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: henry Location: nyc Watch: 16610lv Posts: 1,829	john-watches.com scam alert! please do not do any business with these guys, they've just ripped off many buyers on ebay! John&William Bradley www.John-Watches.com (503)928-7612 (800)545-2470 email : [email protected] Bank Name : FIRST PLACE BANK Name on Account : MJ MANAGEMENT GROUP LLC Account Number : 56930xxxx Routing Number : 241271957 Swift Number : FPBSUS33 Bank address : 7290 Sharon Warren Rd, Brookfield, OH, 44403 Phone: (330) 373-1221

23 December 2011, 08:49 AM	#7
Mosco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Greg Location: Cincinnati Watch: I like to... Posts: 18,567	Yeah - this is the TKBarger fraud I have been screaming about for a couple years... Can't believe they coming back.... __________________ Instagram - @CaliberSwiss *“A man who procrastinates in his choosing will inevitably have his choice made for him by circumstance.” - Hunter S. Thompson*

23 December 2011, 10:10 AM	#8
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	Wow!! AD or trusted TRF seller for me. __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

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23 December 2011, 07:05 AM	#2
roach7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: henry Location: nyc Watch: 16610lv Posts: 1,829	he's also using this bank account : Chase Bank Name on Account: John Lewis Inc Account Number : 42781xxxx Routing Number : 044000037 Bank address: 120 S Fourth St Coshocton, OH, 43812 Phone: (740)623-4950)

23 December 2011, 07:12 AM	#3
roach7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: henry Location: nyc Watch: 16610lv Posts: 1,829	and if you see anyone copying this website, run! http://www.rolexforums.com/showpost....43&postcount=4

23 December 2011, 07:16 AM	#4
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,279	Care to fill us in?

23 December 2011, 07:29 AM	#5
roach7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: henry Location: nyc Watch: 16610lv Posts: 1,829	this was a long con perpetrated by the scammers where they hijacked ebay account : rhino-sales and built up positive feedback (assumed all fake; now removed) for the last 3 months on high ticket watches. so for anyone that glances at the feedback would think they're legit. then they list 10 to 50 watches on ebay at once with extremely good prices (e.g. RM 005 for $15k) and you see people jumping on the deal. ebay eventually will figure this out but it's too late. so far i know 3 people that fell for the scam and i'm sure there's more.

23 December 2011, 08:05 AM	#6
roach7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: henry Location: nyc Watch: 16610lv Posts: 1,829	seems like this scammer has been busy since 2009... http://www.chronocentric.com/forums/...=read;id=27105

23 December 2011, 06:12 PM	#10
MoBe "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 6,773	It seems that these fraudsters rely on the fact that law enfocement does not have the resources to go after internet shysters for fraud involving relatively small sums of money.Ad to this the fact that the perpetrators are conducting their "business" from within other countries that require assistance and cooperation from other law enforcement agencies to be caught and it becomes obvious that they will not be put out of business any time soon. This is the dark side of internet commerce that thrives on the behaviour of those of us too trusting for their own good.Bernie Madoff proved just how difficult it can be for "blinded" investors to perform due diligence even when the facts are staring them straight in the eye Buyer Beware !

7 April 2015, 10:14 AM	#11
ticktockfanatic "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Malaysia Posts: 8	Guys, I noticed the last posting on this is in 2011. Well he's back. Buyers beware! http://ialreadyhaveawatch.com/2009/0...thomas-barger/ http://www.john-watches.com/ also lurking on on ebay now. I'm sure someone already got scammed last week. http://www.ebay.com/sch/johnldavis/m...1&_ipg=&_from=

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