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kenaikat · 15 April 2015, 11:29 AM

Is this Rolex Explorer II seller legit? I have been in negotiations to buy the watch, which would be my first Rolex and most significant watch purchase so far. Unfortunately, I keep finding things that make me wary.

The link to the ad on watchnet by jimberry is provided below. The seller has other watches listed for sale and some of them say "Potential Scam" at the top of the ad. I also found the same watch listed for sale on Timezone by Jammy111, who is listed as a banned user. The seller says his picture was stolen and used falsely by a fraudulent user on Timezone.

I am also concerned about the method of payment. The seller wants a money order mailed to his local post office, but made to a different person.

In response to my concerns, the seller provided some references for watch sales, but I am still very nervous. I was so excited to finally become a Rolex owner, but should I steer clear? I appreciate any insight and advice provided.

http://forums.watchnet.com/index.php...o=713788&rid=0

jimberry

Posts: 23
Registered:
February 2015

FS: Rolex Explorer II Ref: 16570 (Bestsaleprice) Reduced Mar 22, 2015 - 06:14 PM

Up for sale is a 16570 T series Rolex Explorer II in clean condition, it comes complete with everything pictured below.

My firm price is $3300 shipped within the US worldwide buyers add $100.
Please contact me at : [email protected] for fast replies.

Inspection period of five days given and returns accepted for any
reason. Full refund minus shipping and insurance fees.

Thanks for looking.

Jim

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• FS: Rolex Explorer II Ref: 16570 (Bestsaleprice) Reduced - jimberry - Mar 22, 2015 - 06:14 PM (207 clicks)

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bayerische · 15 April 2015, 04:20 PM

"I am also concerned about the method of payment. The seller wants a money order mailed to his local post office, but made to a different person."

The above enough to forget about this one. No one legit needs a money order made out to his wife, girlfriend, friend etc...

Plenty of Explorer 2's on the market. Try this forum. Don't get scammed.

MonBK · 15 April 2015, 04:24 PM

Really, with all these warning flags you're still considering it?

watchabout · 15 April 2015, 04:55 PM

I think you just answered your own question.

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SkyKing31 · 15 April 2015, 05:14 PM

You answered you're own question .... RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN .... try one of the trusted selles here .. RUN FROM THIS SCAMMER AS FAST AS YOU CAN!!!! .... Did I mention you should RUM AWAY AS FAST AS YOU CAN??

AL7273 · 15 April 2015, 05:16 PM

dude, are you daft? of course it is a scam. go to your neighbor's house, ask him to punch you real hard for me.

crowncollection · 15 April 2015, 07:35 PM

Don't do it, too risky and suspicious

Cryten · 15 April 2015, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenaikat

I am also concerned about the method of payment. The seller wants a money order mailed to his local post office, but made to a different person.

Let me guess, is his "local post office" in Nigeria?

b06tmm · 15 April 2015, 11:10 PM

A 16570 T series Rolex Explorer II in clean condition for $3300?

westsiderkg · 15 April 2015, 11:20 PM

Pls listen to others here...up your game and look for a trusted TRF seller. You will NEVER find a pre-owned rolex in the modern area in the $3k price range....ever....not trying to burst your bubble, but again....respectfully save a couple grand more then you'll begin to have legit options.

alex82 · 16 April 2015, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bayerische

"I am also concerned about the method of payment. The seller wants a money order mailed to his local post office, but made to a different person."

The above enough to forget about this one. No one legit needs a money order made out to his wife, girlfriend, friend etc...

Plenty of Explorer 2's on the market. Try this forum. Don't get scammed.

My thoughts exactly...AVOID!!

kbutler1 · 16 April 2015, 02:08 AM

Nothing more to add than what's already been said.
Avoid.

Chewbacca · 16 April 2015, 02:21 AM

probably not.

kenaikat · 16 April 2015, 07:14 AM

I appreciate all of the responses. Don't worry, I had already seen enough red flags to cancel the deal. I did want to post this information so that anyone else who might consider this watch in the future would be aware.

I also appreciate the candid advice about raising my game. I have bought and sold dozens of watches in the affordable realm without issue, but it appears that there is FAR more risk of bad deals with either fake watches or fraudulent sellers when shopping for a Rokex, and obviously the stakes are much higher. This certainly makes the search for deals less enjoyable.

In researching this watch it did lead me to this forum, and I am impressed by all of the information available here. I will be sure to use it in my search, and after I hopefully become a Rolex owner in the future.

mbuckley · 17 April 2015, 05:29 AM

you dodged a bullet on this one----be careful.

ajg1960 · 17 April 2015, 09:30 AM

you list about 6 things that concern you, and then you ask what you should do? Any one of those things should make you run.

Common sense is your friend.

Lumos1301 · 17 April 2015, 05:00 PM

I've seen this watch in a UK ebay auction, i will try and find it again and post the link.

15 April 2015, 11:29 AM	#1
kenaikat "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston! TX Posts: 10	Is This Explorer II Sale Legit Is this Rolex Explorer II seller legit? I have been in negotiations to buy the watch, which would be my first Rolex and most significant watch purchase so far. Unfortunately, I keep finding things that make me wary. The link to the ad on watchnet by jimberry is provided below. The seller has other watches listed for sale and some of them say "Potential Scam" at the top of the ad. I also found the same watch listed for sale on Timezone by Jammy111, who is listed as a banned user. The seller says his picture was stolen and used falsely by a fraudulent user on Timezone. I am also concerned about the method of payment. The seller wants a money order mailed to his local post office, but made to a different person. In response to my concerns, the seller provided some references for watch sales, but I am still very nervous. I was so excited to finally become a Rolex owner, but should I steer clear? I appreciate any insight and advice provided. http://forums.watchnet.com/index.php...o=713788&rid=0 jimberry Posts: 23 Registered: February 2015 FS: Rolex Explorer II Ref: 16570 (Bestsaleprice) Reduced Mar 22, 2015 - 06:14 PM Up for sale is a 16570 T series Rolex Explorer II in clean condition, it comes complete with everything pictured below. My firm price is $3300 shipped within the US worldwide buyers add $100. Please contact me at : [email protected] for fast replies. Inspection period of five days given and returns accepted for any reason. Full refund minus shipping and insurance fees. Thanks for looking. Jim [linked image] [linked image] [linked image] [linked image] [linked image] [linked image] • FS: Rolex Explorer II Ref: 16570 (Bestsaleprice) Reduced - jimberry - Mar 22, 2015 - 06:14 PM (207 clicks) Watch Talk \| Trading Post \| Luxury Time \| Deal Watch \| Good

15 April 2015, 04:20 PM	#2
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	"I am also concerned about the method of payment. The seller wants a money order mailed to his local post office, but made to a different person." The above enough to forget about this one. No one legit needs a money order made out to his wife, girlfriend, friend etc... Plenty of Explorer 2's on the market. Try this forum. Don't get scammed. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

15 April 2015, 07:35 PM	#7
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	Don't do it, too risky and suspicious __________________ watches many

15 April 2015, 11:10 PM	#9
b06tmm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Tim Location: South Shore Posts: 834	A 16570 T series Rolex Explorer II in clean condition for $3300? __________________ Well, our first album took a day to record. Our second album took even longer ~ George Harrison

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15 April 2015, 04:24 PM	#3
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,279	Really, with all these warning flags you're still considering it?

15 April 2015, 04:55 PM	#4
watchabout "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Real Name: Dave Location: miami Watch: Submariner Posts: 374	I think you just answered your own question. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

15 April 2015, 05:14 PM	#5
SkyKing31 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Manalapan Florida Watch: Tridor Masterpiece Posts: 2,819	You answered you're own question .... RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN .... try one of the trusted selles here .. RUN FROM THIS SCAMMER AS FAST AS YOU CAN!!!! .... Did I mention you should RUM AWAY AS FAST AS YOU CAN??

15 April 2015, 05:16 PM	#6
AL7273 Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: UAE Posts: 195	dude, are you daft? of course it is a scam. go to your neighbor's house, ask him to punch you real hard for me.

15 April 2015, 11:20 PM	#10
westsiderkg "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Pittsburgh Dad Location: Pittsburgh, PA Watch: '66 Submariner Posts: 1,121	Pls listen to others here...up your game and look for a trusted TRF seller. You will NEVER find a pre-owned rolex in the modern area in the $3k price range....ever....not trying to burst your bubble, but again....respectfully save a couple grand more then you'll begin to have legit options.

16 April 2015, 02:08 AM	#12
kbutler1 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Kevin Location: Colorado Watch: This one Posts: 633	Nothing more to add than what's already been said. Avoid.

16 April 2015, 02:21 AM	#13
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,112	probably not.

16 April 2015, 07:14 AM	#14
kenaikat "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston! TX Posts: 10	I appreciate all of the responses. Don't worry, I had already seen enough red flags to cancel the deal. I did want to post this information so that anyone else who might consider this watch in the future would be aware. I also appreciate the candid advice about raising my game. I have bought and sold dozens of watches in the affordable realm without issue, but it appears that there is FAR more risk of bad deals with either fake watches or fraudulent sellers when shopping for a Rokex, and obviously the stakes are much higher. This certainly makes the search for deals less enjoyable. In researching this watch it did lead me to this forum, and I am impressed by all of the information available here. I will be sure to use it in my search, and after I hopefully become a Rolex owner in the future.

17 April 2015, 05:29 AM	#15
mbuckley "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Michael Location: Norman, Oklahoma Watch: Exp II Posts: 616	you dodged a bullet on this one----be careful.

17 April 2015, 09:30 AM	#16
ajg1960 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Real Name: Andy Location: New Jersey USA Watch: DJ / ND Sub Posts: 292	you list about 6 things that concern you, and then you ask what you should do? Any one of those things should make you run. Common sense is your friend.

17 April 2015, 05:00 PM	#17
Lumos1301 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: Hertfordshire Watch: 116660 - 116505 - Posts: 92	I've seen this watch in a UK ebay auction, i will try and find it again and post the link.

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