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Old 1 January 2016, 02:37 AM   #751
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Interesting read, last year 2 Hodinkee staff members used the BB this year also was one of the most worn watches by a team member.
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/th...-hodinkee-team


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Old 1 January 2016, 02:44 AM   #752
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almost all modern divers in the rolex line... looks good only with oyster... had the chance to own subc, subc LV.. SDc..SubcND... looks best on oyster...

super hard to match with nato and leather strap...

Unlike BB super easy to change and still looks good...

In my honest opinion..
Really Rolex promotes this by providing alternative straps with the BBs (and some other modern Tudors) but not so with their Rolex standard offerings.
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Old 2 January 2016, 06:37 PM   #753
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Old 2 January 2016, 06:41 PM   #754
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Really Rolex promotes this by providing alternative straps with the BBs (and some other modern Tudors) but not so with their Rolex standard offerings.
And discourages it by warning that strap changes should only be done by an AD.
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Old 2 January 2016, 07:13 PM   #755
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And discourages it by warning that strap changes should only be done by an AD.
I wouldn't do it without the correct tool at any rate.
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Old 3 January 2016, 05:18 AM   #756
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I wouldn't do it without the correct tool at any rate.
Nor would I expect Rolex to do other than protect themselves.
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Old 4 January 2016, 05:54 PM   #757
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I wouldn't do it without the correct tool at any rate.

So I went to an AD yesterday asking for the Tudor leather strap to be removed and spring bars inserted do I can go full NATO.

The guy at the AD said he can do it but could not guarantee he wouldn't scratch the back of the lugs or the back of the case as he said there's very little room between the inside edge of the lugs and the strap to remove the spring bars. I noticed he had the Rolex tweezers for removing spring bars on the counter so assume that he would have used the tool.

I declined to proceed because I lost confidence in him and especially since he made no mention of taping up the case before attempting to remove the spring bars - experts, correct me if I'm wrong but even with that Rolex tool I would have thought taping up the case is just good practice to minimize any potential damage.

He said the RSC should be a better placed to help me. I'm sure they can do this but I'm not sure if I have to surrender my watch and wait a day or more to turn around this minor request.

Anyone have experiences to share with taking out the Tudor leather strap from their BB? Should I try another AD and hopefully find someone that will restore my confidence or should I go RSC - which seems like overkill especially if I want to mix things up from time to time and go back to non NATO straps?


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Old 4 January 2016, 06:00 PM   #758
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So I went to an AD yesterday asking for the Tudor leather strap to be removed and spring bars inserted do I can go full NATO.

The guy at the AD said he can do it but could not guarantee he wouldn't scratch the back of the lugs or the back of the case as he said there's very little room between the inside edge of the lugs and the strap to remove the spring bars. I noticed he had the Rolex tweezers for removing spring bars on the counter so assume that he would have used the tool.

I declined to proceed because I lost confidence in him and especially since he made no mention of taping up the case before attempting to remove the spring bars - experts, correct me if I'm wrong but even with that Rolex tool I would have thought taping up the case is just good practice to minimize any potential damage.

He said the RSC should be a better placed to help me. I'm sure they can do this but I'm not sure if I have to surrender my watch and wait a day or more to turn around this minor request.

Anyone have experiences to share with taking out the Tudor leather strap from their BB? Should I try another AD and hopefully find someone that will restore my confidence or should I go RSC - which seems like overkill especially if I want to mix things up from time to time and go back to non NATO straps?


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Where in Asia are you? RSC should do it while you wait, anyway.
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Old 4 January 2016, 06:38 PM   #759
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Where in Asia are you? RSC should do it while you wait, anyway.

Oh I see, thanks. Let me give them a call first to check before I make a trip to the RSC.

Rookie question: if I take it to a reputable watch repairer who I'm pretty comfortable can do this, I presume something as simple as changing the strap won't void any warranties. Just trying to find another option besides the RSC (experts) and ADs (probably with less expertise than the watch repairer I have in mind).


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Old 4 January 2016, 06:41 PM   #760
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Oh I see, thanks. Let me give them a call first to check before I make a trip to the RSC.

Rookie question: if I take it to a reputable watch repairer who I'm pretty comfortable can do this, I presume something as simple as changing the strap won't void any warranties. Just trying to find another option besides the RSC (experts) and ADs (probably with less expertise than the watch repairer I have in mind).


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No, it won't void the warranty, whoever changes the strap. Doing it yourself isn't really difficult, just be careful the first time, and get the right tool, like a Bergeon 6767-f, which is fairly cheap on ebay (I think mine was about $25).
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Old 4 January 2016, 06:57 PM   #761
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Interesting read, last year 2 Hodinkee staff members used the BB this year also was one of the most worn watches by a team member.
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Interesting link; thanks!!!
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Old 4 January 2016, 08:45 PM   #762
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Old 4 January 2016, 10:34 PM   #763
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Interesting link; thanks!!!

+1. Good to see the BB got a lot of wrist time in 2014 too!


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Old 4 January 2016, 11:50 PM   #764
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Old 5 January 2016, 05:18 PM   #765
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Old 6 January 2016, 04:25 PM   #766
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Old 7 January 2016, 06:49 PM   #767
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I've always wanted a Black Bay Burgundy in steel since it came out in 2013, I believe. Please correct me if I'm wrong. And now, 2 other color options, but my preference has remained with unique Burgundy. I've always been a sucker for iconic/heritage pieces, and even the modern re-issues.

However, for some reason, I still haven't pulled the trigger on it. Probably because I have a number of diving pieces, from the affordable Seikos to a SubC Date. And should I acquire one, it will always be subject to comparison with its big brother, in terms of build quality and accuracy.

Secondly, at its price point, I find it quite expensive for an ETA movement. If it were fitted with an in-house Tudor, I would have had one already.

I've extensively read a lot of reviews and have been enjoying and quite excited with all your post here, but would appreciate your thoughts on this or maybe some other information that I have not considered to finally grab one for myself.

Thanks in advance for your inputs.
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I've always wanted a Black Bay Burgundy in steel since it came out in 2013, I believe. Please correct me if I'm wrong. And now, 2 other color options, but my preference has remained with unique Burgundy. I've always been a sucker for iconic/heritage pieces, and even the modern re-issues.

However, for some reason, I still haven't pulled the trigger on it. Probably because I have a number of diving pieces, from the affordable Seikos to a SubC Date. And should I acquire one, it will always be subject to comparison with its big brother, in terms of build quality and accuracy.

Secondly, at its price point, I find it quite expensive for an ETA movement. If it were fitted with an in-house Tudor, I would have had one already.

I've extensively read a lot of reviews and have been enjoying and quite excited with all you post here, but would appreciate your thoughts on this or maybe some other information that I have not considered to finally grab one for myself.

Thanks in advance for your inputs.
2012, it was. You should be able to find a used one with full set in good condition for little over 2k if you don't require brand new.
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Old 7 January 2016, 09:01 PM   #769
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My only complaint with the black bay is that its quiet thick. I wish it was closer to submariner thickness.
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Old 7 January 2016, 09:35 PM   #770
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My only complaint with the black bay is that its quiet thick. I wish it was closer to submariner thickness.
Actually it feel thinner on the wrist. It sits significantly lower not having the traditional oyster bulge on the back. I owned a 114060 for over a year and could never get use to it; no such problem with my BBR.
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Fair enough. I found the black bay top heavy compared to my other pieces. Was much better on leather for me - couldn't get the bracelet to sit well
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Fair enough. I found the black bay top heavy compared to my other pieces. Was much better on leather for me - couldn't get the bracelet to sit well
So which Sub were you comparing it to? It definitely feels larger than my 14060 and it is.
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I could see the 16610 but definitely not the 114060 from my experience. On the fabric strap it's more comfortable than my 14060.
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I could see the 16610 but definitely not the 114060 from my experience. On the fabric strap it's more comfortable than my 14060.
I found on leather it worked better for me.
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