Differences between p.2002 and p.5000

[dj1809]

This question came up while I was reading about various PAM movements, in particular two of the manual wind 8 day power reserves. I did a bit of digging and this is what I could come up with:

p.2002
- 247 components with 21 jewels
- 28,800 oscillations per hour
- 6.6 mm thick, 13 3/4 lignes diameter
- GMT function
- Quick hour set
- seconds reset function
- 3 spring barrels in series

p.5000
- 127 components with 21 jewels
- 21,600 oscillations per hour
- 4.5 mm thick, 15 1/2 lignes diameter
- variable inertia balance

So it looks like the p.2002 is the more "complex" of the two movements. It appears though that the p.2002 is not simply an advancement in the p.5000 but a completely different architecture.

[Stack]

The P.5000 is the standard base 8 Day movement that is used in a lot of the base models that were re-released.

The P.2002 as you stated has a lot more complications in it.

In actuality the P.5000 came out in 2013 after the P.2002.

[Travelller]

Also of note, the P.2002 was OP's flagship in-house movement. "2002" is the year they opened their own, Panerai-dedicated manufacture in Ch. The first P.2002-powered PAMs, the Radiomir 200/201, were released in 2005. The 233, my favorite P.2002 (P.2002/1) PAM, came out the following year. The P.2002, like many of OP's in-house mvmts, is modular in nature and it's the basis for the P.2002/9 (PR-indicator on back) and other variations that eliminate complications such as GMT and/or Date and/or PR-indicator.

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While I assume that the P.5000 was also designed on this principle, I am not aware of any current models aside from with or w/o the Sub-secs complication. It's also important to understand that OP created the P.5000 with the intention of offering an alternative the Swatch-Group's ETA 6497 as an entry-level, in-house movement with a somewhat similar cost-basis. The P.5000 of course has the distinct advantage of an 8-Day PR, one of the most useful "complications" I have used ...

[dj1809]

Thanks for the insight, guys. I'm always interested in the history and logic behind the development of in-house movements. Is the p.2002 (and its variations) still considered the flagship movement in house Panerai?