2016 Toyota Camry XLE vs 2016 Lexus ES 350 is the Es 350 worth the extra money?

[USALV]

Originally Posted by stockae92

I would pick the Lexus if you have money left for a nice Rolex.

Otherwise I would pick the Toyota and use the saving for a nice Rolex

What I may do is to pick a less than 3 yr old certified pre-owned Lexus / Toyota / Acura / Honda / Nissan / Infiniti, enjoy the extended warranty, and use the saving to buy yet another Rolex :D

WIN-WIN :)

Great idea

[Chewbacca]

http://www.autotrader.com/car-review...ference-229780

Avalon is also an option...

[airchitect]

Just lease the Lexus, keep your money, and automatically get the latest n greatest in 3yrs....

[USALV]

Originally Posted by airchitect

Just lease the Lexus, keep your money, and automatically get the latest n greatest in 3yrs....

This is a good one

[Laszlo]

Get what works for you - they're both decent cars. I'm still trying to warm up to the new Lexus design language...

[USALV]

Originally Posted by Laszlo

Get what works for you - they're both decent cars. I'm still trying to warm up to the new Lexus design language...

Thank you
What new Lexus design language ?

[DCgator]

Lexus.

[kulak]

Originally Posted by USALV

Thank you
What new Lexus design language ?

The spindle grill tends to be abrasive to some and a departure from its prior conservative looks.
http://www.autonews.com/article/2015...spindle-grille

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by kulak

The spindle grill tends to be abrasive to some and a departure from its prior conservative looks.
http://www.autonews.com/article/2015...spindle-grille

Otherwise known as the 'Predator' grill. It totally turns me off from Lexus.

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[USALV]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

Otherwise known as the 'Predator' grill. It totally turns me off from Lexus.

.

Oh my goodness.

[USALV]

Originally Posted by kulak

The spindle grill tends to be abrasive to some and a departure from its prior conservative looks.
http://www.autonews.com/article/2015...spindle-grille

Sorry. I like the new grill. Lol

[anothernewphone]

Originally Posted by kulak

The spindle grill tends to be abrasive to some and a departure from its prior conservative looks.
http://www.autonews.com/article/2015...spindle-grille

I love the mesh grille on the "nicer" Lexus models. It reminds me of my buddy's RS5 grille. I almost bought a Lexus over my 4 series because I loved the look.

[gtnator]

Originally Posted by anothernewphone

I love the mesh grille on the "nicer" Lexus models. It reminds me of my buddy's RS5 grille. I almost bought a Lexus over my 4 series because I loved the look.

...But you didn't, and that's the important part! I'm partial to BMW myself.

[gmh1013]

I would get the Toyota and pocket the savings.....as somebody else said you could buy another Rolex with it. Im old and most new cars to me are all just FWD econocars in some form a fashion. You can go wrong with a Camry. My Neighbor across the street owns a chain of auto repair shops and is a Mustang freak like myself was telling how bad Nissan with CVT trans are and avoid them.

[TK-710]

We were in a similar spot only with the Avalon. My wife test drove both in the hybrid trim. In the end she went with the Lexus. My brother on the other hand went from an Audi A8 to the Toyota Avalon. Personally I thought they were both nice but it was my wife's car so I stayed out of it. The big advantage for Lexus was Toyota said they wouldn't negotiate and didn't. Lexus said they would not and did. So in the end we only paid $2000 more for the Lexus then where the Toyota dealer was holding firm on the Avalon. If you're looking at the two you mentioned you should check out the Avalon as well. Fully loaded it's very close to the Lexus but you're also paying close to Lexus prices for a Toyota.

[USALV]

Originally Posted by JES77

We were in a similar spot only with the Avalon. My wife test drove both in the hybrid trim. In the end she went with the Lexus. My brother on the other hand went from an Audi A8 to the Toyota Avalon. Personally I thought they were both nice but it was my wife's car so I stayed out of it. The big advantage for Lexus was Toyota said they wouldn't negotiate and didn't. Lexus said they would not and did. So in the end we only paid $2000 more for the Lexus then where the Toyota dealer was holding firm on the Avalon. If you're looking at the two you mentioned you should check out the Avalon as well. Fully loaded it's very close to the Lexus but you're also paying close to Lexus prices for a Toyota.

I can see why you made the jump from Toyota to a Lexus. It's totally understandable.

[bdex75]

We just put a GS350 F sport in the garage tonight. Traded my wife's MDX. She wanted a car. She got a car.

We were Lexus people for a long time before the Acura.

The GS is an incredible car. Just wish it was a GSF, and not a GS F sport. They had 2 at the dealer, could t get off of the extra $20k to go to the grocery store and middle school.


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[K3vin]

Skip the ES and check out the IS 200t or 350, or gs. With the IS you get a rwd chassis, not a rebadged Toyota. The latest gen IS350 has been acclaimed as superior to the latest generation BMW 3-Series in terms of handling dynamics and build quality. If your instinct is going with a Lexus, go for it.

I own a 2015 and it's a fantastic car. Yeah you can own another watch, but it sounds like you drive well above the average. I spend about two hours in my car everyday and having a smooth, quiet ride with all the gizmos makes my commutes actually tolerable. My friend has a 15 year old Lexus GS and honesty id even rather drive that than a brand new economy car. Those things are built to last... If you can see yourself driving it for 15 years, spend the extra money and enjoy it.

[K3vin]

Also, just an FYI, while the engine and trans in the V6 ES is shared with many toyota models, the IS / GS gets a much more powerful unit with direct & port injection and a much better 8-speed trans. I guess to answer your original question, I would not choose an ES over a Camry but would go for the IS / GS.

[USALV]

Originally Posted by K3vin

Skip the ES and check out the IS 200t or 350, or gs. With the IS you get a rwd chassis, not a rebadged Toyota. The latest gen IS350 has been acclaimed as superior to the latest generation BMW 3-Series in terms of handling dynamics and build quality. If your instinct is going with a Lexus, go for it.

I own a 2015 and it's a fantastic car. Yeah you can own another watch, but it sounds like you drive well above the average. I spend about two hours in my car everyday and having a smooth, quiet ride with all the gizmos makes my commutes actually tolerable. My friend has a 15 year old Lexus GS and honesty id even rather drive that than a brand new economy car. Those things are built to last... If you can see yourself driving it for 15 years, spend the extra money and enjoy it.

[jwkunkle]

I just went from a 2014 Camry to a new Lexus ES 350. I don't think they are even close to comparable. Lexus tops in every way.

[USALV]

Originally Posted by jwkunkle

I just went from a 2014 Camry to a new Lexus ES 350. I don't think they are even close to comparable. Lexus tops in every way.

I agree. I got the 2016 Es 350. I very happy and over the moon with this purchase. I got the pearl white color with the black interior with a rear lip spoiler

[Tsujetad]

hey did you end up deciding?

https://www.cars.com/articles/toyota...1420697091739/

[USALV]

Originally Posted by Tsujetad

hey did you end up deciding?

https://www.cars.com/articles/toyota...1420697091739/

I got the ES350 but I should have gotten the new Camry or the RX350 back in 2016, I think they ride better than But the 2018 Toyota Camrys look really good, I think I should have gotten another Toyota Camry. It's really low key.

[swils8610]

I run a Toyota dealership for a living...they are great cars. Get the Lexus.


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[USALV]

Originally Posted by SDRider

It is. The two cars aren’t really comparable. The Lexus ES is a much larger car and personally, I would recommend the Lexus as it is better equipped and more luxurious. Lexus service is top notch too.

Can’t go wrong with either one though.

Oops, didn’t realize this thread was more than a year old...

That's okay. No worries! I'm starting to receive better customer service from Lexus, now. Thank goodness. I had a few customer problems at first.

Originally Posted by swils8610

I run a Toyota dealership for a living...they are great cars. Get the Lexus.


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Thank you for the reassurance. I'm really happy with my ES350 even with the extra attention that it is getting.

[USALV]

Originally Posted by swils8610

I run a Toyota dealership for a living...they are great cars. Get the Lexus.


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you're so right. Thanks again. I wondered why my father pushed for me to buy the ES350. I understand why now.