Why does it seem that Audmars Piguet are more expensive than Rolex?

[speedmaster73]

Originally Posted by AwesomePico

Why are AP's ridiculously more expensive than Rolex?? Is it the hip hop/celebrity status that has made AP what it is? Will the popularity of AP drop? I'll always be a Rolex man, but when I was in Vegas last weekend. I couldn't believe the prices at the AP store in the Crystal's mall.

because AP is one of the BIG 3 swiss watchmakers aka 'the holy trinity'

PP AP VC

Rolex plays in grand seiko and omegas sandbox

[speedmaster73]

Originally Posted by Billythekid

Where will be panerai 10 years from now i wonder

still competing with rolex

[lapince]

Originally Posted by AK797

Just kidding Arnaud, we love you guys really.

I know you're kidding Neil, I was too, it's always fun to put the old competition of our 2 countries in a joke

[AK797]

Originally Posted by lapince

I know you're kidding Neil, I was too, it's always fun to put the old competition of our 2 countries in a joke

How do you think you guys will do in the Euros next week? We are a bit confident this year, we have a few good attacking players.

[Daycruiser]

Originally Posted by singe89

I always wonder why people say that go from Rolex to AP then to Patek and finally RM. At first I thought about going down this path but AP really has two levels of watches. Their entry level RO and ROOs and then their perpetual calendars, tourbillons, concepts, grand comps, etc. I've tried to get a Patek but I like sport watches so Patek does nothing for me and while I love RM I would rather have a schumi lap timer or ROO tourbillon chrono over an RM. Both movements are made by APRP and AP has a way stronger history and will be in business and independent much longer.

I used to think in a similar vein as you do. After getting my first AP ROC 26320 I changed my mind. It is a high end sports watch, the finishing is immaculate, polished and brushed. The styling is also more classic. The price point is the same as my TT YM2 and in my view quite a lot more stylish and timeless.

For PP I am mad into the Nautlius series. Like yourself, I am into sports watches so the grand complications or ALS Grand Lange 1 does not have quite the same pull for me. But I do think that one dress watch is necessary in any collection. I would go with the Grand Lange 1 with moon phase in platinum.

I dislike RM, quite intensely. They are innovative which is great, but I prefer the timelessness of Rolex, AP, ALS and PP. Those are my top 4 brands.

Although the Seiko credor Fugaku tourbillion is now my ultimate Grail watch. We can dream after all.

[conkers]

Originally Posted by Daycruiser

In the Horological hierarchy

I feel that Rolex are like a BMW, sub = 3 series, Daytona = 5 series, PM= 7 series. Of course you can get the DSSD as your X5

AP are more like a Bentley, more prestigious and more exclusive

PP are the Rolls Royce of watches
Lange are the Aston Martins
Richard Mille are the Bugatti Veyron

Great analogy Ed. I wonder whether RM is more Pagani Zonda than Veyron. Then Greubel Forsey can snap up the Veyron tag?

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by conkers

Great analogy Ed. I wonder whether RM is more Pagani Zonda than Veyron. Then Greubel Forsey can snap up the Veyron tag?

Outsourced engines from the best builders and a stunning carbon case? Sounds like a zonda to me

[Nyquist]

Originally Posted by Daycruiser

I dislike RM, quite intensely. They are innovative which is great, but I prefer the timelessness of Rolex, AP, ALS and PP. Those are my top 4 brands.

Although the Seiko credor Fugaku tourbillion is now my ultimate Grail watch. We can dream after all.

Wow! Credor is one gorgeous watch! A true work of art. With a hefty 600K price tag.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by AK797

How do you think you guys will do in the Euros next week? We are a bit confident this year, we have a few good attacking players.

Well to be honest, It's been some time I have been disgusted by the players and their behavior, Ribery was an awful jerk, Benzema and others also, refusing to sing the national anthem for one, so I absolutely don't support in any way the french team, so I would much prefer the english or spanish to win, I liked the germans before but was disgusted when they did a 7-1 against Brazil in the last world championship in Brazil, that was shameful, a 3-1 would have been enough, in any case I don't think 1 second we stand a chance, might be wrong but hope not... Yeah I know I'm a bad frenchman, but I lived almost half my life out of France, can't stand what my country has become to be honest...

[benz63]

Originally Posted by Daycruiser

In the Horological hierarchy

I feel that Rolex are like a BMW, sub = 3 series, Daytona = 5 series, PM= 7 series. Of course you can get the DSSD as your X5

AP are more like a Bentley, more prestigious and more exclusive

PP are the Rolls Royce of watches
Lange are the Aston Martins
Richard Mille are the Bugatti Veyron

nicely put

[Jfbhd4]

AP > Rolex

Check out the finish sided by side.

No comparison.




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[HauteHorlogerie]

I personally think the trinity is PP, AP, and ALS... though VC is still up there I just feel ALS has done more to move the bar in the past years than VC... maybe this will chance as Richemont moves it's focus to VC..

[WJGESQ]

Originally Posted by benlee

More limited supply, hence more exclusive, better dial and case finishing, better movement decoration etc..

For the above reasons, people willing to pay more for it then Rolex. That is also true of other haute horology brands.

The ones I've seen did not impress me over Rolex or omega as far as dials or case finishing. Not whatsoever.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by HauteHorlogerie

I personally think the trinity is PP, AP, and ALS... though VC is still up there I just feel ALS has done more to move the bar in the past years than VC... maybe this will chance as Richemont moves it's focus to VC..

VC did make a 57 complication watch, though if not counting this I totally agree with you

[AK797]

Originally Posted by WJGESQ

The ones I've seen did not impress me over Rolex or omega as far as dials or case finishing. Not whatsoever.

The intricate detailing of the tapisserie dials are more impressive than Rolex's mostly flat ones, altho Rolex's sunburst colours are more dynamic.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by WJGESQ

The ones I've seen did not impress me over Rolex or omega as far as dials or case finishing. Not whatsoever.

Well I have 2 Omega, and had 4 Rolex, and I have a black ceramic AP diver, maybe it's me who is crazy, but I seem to have noticed a little edge on AP's side

[Mainewatchman]

Originally Posted by WJGESQ

The ones I've seen did not impress me over Rolex or omega as far as dials or case finishing. Not whatsoever.

Come on! Everything about APs continue to impress me on a daily bases over over my rolex!

[masterserg]

Because they can

[jrs146]

Folks, we are talking about luxury goods! Is there really ANY logic other than people actually pay what these companies are asking for? Yes, the finishing is higher on an AP. Yes, the finishing may be EVEN higher on a Patek. But, not sure that there this is enough to justify the price difference. The gap is because they can!