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Old 20 March 2016, 04:57 PM   #1
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Question about Yachtmaster date/material

My wife and I purchased a pair of matching YM's for our anniversary.
I have been reading about the YM, and have a few questions.

Her watch is a 169623 serial number P884***, with original paperwork being sold on 8/20/2003. Country code on paperwork is 170 (Italy) and the AD name is in Italian. It's been to the RSC, and had an overhaul in 2014.

My question is, from what I am reading, her watch, white dial, yellow gold and stainless (Rolesor) wasn't offered until 2005.

So where are my wires getting crossed? I'm sure there is something that I am misunderstanding...

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Old 20 March 2016, 07:57 PM   #2
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I think you're wrong in assuming it first came out in 2005. Below link from Chrono where Milton offers one from 2004. The first hit from Chrono was a 2000's.
All looks in order to me.

http://www.chrono24.com/en/rolex/169...-id4218705.htm
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Old 20 March 2016, 08:05 PM   #3
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169623 was offered from 2000 to 2011 in Rolex catalog.
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Old 20 March 2016, 11:17 PM   #4
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169623 was offered from 2000 to 2011 in Rolex catalog.
Thanks. I am not doubting what you are saying, as I am certain I don't have some special YM.

I guess I am just confused as to what the difference between "Two Tone" and "Rolesor" is. If someone can explain this, I would greatly appreciate it.

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=40684

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. 1992 – Introduction of the Yacht-Master ref. 16628 (18kt gold)
. 1994 – Midsize (35mm) 168628, and lady’s (29mm) 169628, size models in 18kt gold.
. 1999 – Introduction of the ref.16622, 168622 (35mm), 169622 (29mm) Rolesium model (stainless steel/platinum)
. 2005 – Introduction of the ref. 16623, 168623 (35mm) and 169623 (29mm) Rolesor model (stainless steel/gold)

I know just because it's posted on the Internet, doesn't make it true, but I have read this in more than one place. Below is the text from the C&C webpage. I have seen something very similar to this posted many places.

https://www.crownandcaliber.com/watc...x/yacht-master

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Yacht-Master History & Interesting Facts

Rolex released the Yacht-Master (Ref. 16628) in 1992 as part of the Professional series, available only in yellow gold. Two years later, they added a ladies (Ref. 69628) and a midsize (Ref. 68628) model to the lineup. At first, these were also gold only, but in 1996 they were released in two-toned models as well. Later, a stainless steel version of the midsize was also made available. In 1997, the Rolesium (stainless steel and platinum) model debuted and was an instant success. Yacht-Master options were expanded even further in 2005 when Rolex added a Rolesor (gold & stainless steel) version with dial colors of either white, mother-of-pearl, blue, champagne, brown, or silver. In 2010, Rolex introduced the Yacht-Master II in yellow gold (Ref. 116688) and white gold (Ref. 116689), then in steel and everose gold (Ref. 116681) in 2011. This Rolex watch has a case size of 44mm and uses the 4160 movement.
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Old 20 March 2016, 11:30 PM   #5
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Rolesor = two tones (SS with YG / WG or RG)


29mm and 35mm rolesor YM were disclosed in 1997 , models 69623 and 68623. They were then renewed in 1999 as 169623 and 168623.

In 2004 (not 2005) the new rolesor model was the 40mm 16623 only.

ps: YMII was disclosed in 2007 , not 2010 as stated in your quote.
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Old 21 March 2016, 02:54 AM   #6
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I guess I am just confused as to what the difference between "Two Tone" and "Rolesor" is. If someone can explain this, I would greatly appreciate it.

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Rolesor and Two Tone are the same thing in Rolex-speak.

Thanks for bringing the error on our Reference pages to our attention.. Apparently we used the introduction date for new Rolesor dials and failed to note that it was only dials and not the mid-size cases..
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sorry for reviving an old thread. I am looking to get a 169623 for W, and I found one, but the seller has it listed as 1997 Model. Based on this thread and my research, it looks like the ones from 1997 are 69623 instead of the 169623.

Are there any difference with both models?
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rolesor and two tone are the same thing in rolex-speak.
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Lovely duo there!
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