1655 T-swiss-T allignment

[dpa94114]

the second rolex i ever tried to buy was a 1655 - four years ago - outbid, overwhelmed by the subtleties... so I gave up.

after a few years, they have once again hooked me. I have researched endlessly - seven different dials, five bezels...serial number appropriate, ad nauseum. apparently a very heavily faked model - not sure why - but i don't argue with those who have come before me.

Anyway, the prices are a bit ugly - but i stumbled upon this one - that looks quite fine, but the alignment of the T-swiss-T does not seem correct. I was assured that the watch is legit - has been regularly serviced... but i have never seen a T-swiss-T centering where the T between 5 and 6 is more to the left of the minute hash closest to the 30 minute position.

I then checked on half a dozen non 1655 T-swiss-T models i own - and all the same.

Have I stumbled upon a lovely, but none-the-less redial - or am I just paranoid??

(yes, the orange hand is a replacement - more about the dial)

thanks

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[Michael M.]

You are correct to believe that the 'T SWISS T' is off. The entire dial is a commonly seen fake. I'd run very quickly from this one.

Also, the case looks to be over polished judging from the thickness of the 5 o'clock and 7 o'clock lugs.

[jdmi32]

Very common fake dial. There are other signs that give this one away besides the T SWISS T.

[drifter01]

I've seen photos of several gen Explorer II dials with the same offset T SWISS T printing.

[onthedial]

@dpa94114
Putting aside the dial for a moment, did you look at the other pictures supplied by the seller? If so, what do you make of the "2080" case back? How about the 3135 movement?
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[dpa94114]

I never made it past the dial - the watch i was looking at had the correct case back, not sure about the movement.

[onthedial]

Originally Posted by dpa94114

I never made it past the dial - the watch i was looking at had the correct case back, not sure about the movement.

I looked at the additional pictures supplied by the seller (easy to find as the pic you included in your post showed the logo). One of those pics depicted the wrong case back; another clearly depicted a 3135 movement...wrong again. So when you say that you saw the correct case back for this watch, did you see it in person?
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[swish77]

The scale of the date font/window also looks off, compared to my 1655 anyway.

[onthedial]

Originally Posted by mikewinnpa

The 1655 came with a 1575 movement.

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Yes, I know.
I actually dug up some additional pics of the watch (simple internet search) and saw that one of the images showed a 3135 movement. So, I was trying to point out that there were other problematic things, besides the dial, that should have been warning signs for the OP. With regard to my post, I was using hyperbole.
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[Michael M.]

The dial is a well known variant of fake, not much to debate about. Stay away from this one!

[sitka39]

Also, is that residue (maybe glue?) around the cyclops ?

[Vlad]

The bezel is obviously not correct as well.