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Old 27 January 2017, 07:13 AM   #61
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Old 27 January 2017, 12:29 PM   #62
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Midengine cars have very different driving characteristics than regular cars. The snap oversteer on Mk2 Toyota MR2's was renowned for killing teenagers for example.




If you can't drive a mid-engined car you're in big trouble because they handle the best of all layouts. Total nonsense that the Ferrari had anything to do with it. He just ran out of skill, quite early too.
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Old 27 January 2017, 12:48 PM   #63
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If you can't drive a mid-engined car you're in big trouble because they handle the best of all layouts. Total nonsense that the Ferrari had anything to do with it. He just ran out of skill, quite early too.
Handling and predictability are different things.

Mid-mounted engine vehicles have a much lower rotational inertia than vehicles with a front-mounted or rear-mounted engine. The lower rotational inertia of mid-mounted engine can cause a car to behave differently to a front or rear mounted engine vehicle. If unexpected it can catch the driver off guard when cornering, ultimately leading to loss of control of the vehicle.

i.e oversteer and loss of control is induced when the throttle is lifted while mid-way through a corner (lift-off oversteer), often by inexperienced drivers trying to reduce speed after braking too little.

But hey that's just science and if politics has taught me anything that always debatable
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Old 27 January 2017, 04:03 PM   #64
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Handling and predictability are different things.

Mid-mounted engine vehicles have a much lower rotational inertia than vehicles with a front-mounted or rear-mounted engine. The lower rotational inertia of mid-mounted engine can cause a car to behave differently to a front or rear mounted engine vehicle. If unexpected it can catch the driver off guard when cornering, ultimately leading to loss of control of the vehicle.

i.e oversteer and loss of control is induced when the throttle is lifted while mid-way through a corner (lift-off oversteer), often by inexperienced drivers trying to reduce speed after braking too little.

But hey that's just science and if politics has taught me anything that always debatable
Hmm interesting you're sayin he experienced some oversteer, panicked and tried to correct but hit the wall? Maybe so. I initially had thought he simply came in hot, shifted and braked mid corner and lost it into the wall.

Either way yes mid engined cars are more tossable but imho they are also much easier to catch. I don't think he is in any better shape if he's driving a gt3 or a z06.

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Old 27 January 2017, 04:12 PM   #65
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A GT3 would have done the same but gone in backwards.

You are overthinking it guys.

Not rocket science.

It was probably this tools first drive in a Ferrari and he stuffed up.

Drive your car fast or listen to a screaming GF.

But make your mind up.......

I didn't see any under or oversteer in the vid, just bad driving.































For all you GT3 owners.....
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Old 27 January 2017, 05:28 PM   #66
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sergio seems fine with this...

In other news, stock in Ferrari is looking pretty good right now!
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