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Shay-J · 28 April 2017, 05:17 AM

Are these watches now too perfect?

They will not fade, not scratch, not age, but they will shatter.

I love nothing more than an old sub showing signs of use, they take on their own personality.

Will the ceramics look good in 20 years time?

What's your thoughts.............?

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tkerrmd · 28 April 2017, 05:18 AM

my thoughts are just like a new car, the longer it looks new the better to me. I have no attraction to a faded worn out beat up looking car, make sense?

maybe the vintage forum is for you!

JSolano305 · 28 April 2017, 05:25 AM

Ceramic bezel is top notch. Such perfection by Rolex.

Cru Jones · 28 April 2017, 05:26 AM

What they said. ^ and ^^

I'm sure one of these days Padi will come around.

SeaDweller50 · 28 April 2017, 05:27 AM

Agreed Tom.

JP Chestnut · 28 April 2017, 05:32 AM

One thing's for sure. The new fat cased watches will look better after 10 or so rounds on the polishing wheel.

locutus49 · 28 April 2017, 05:32 AM

Why would you want something that wears quickly? Yes, the Japanese like small imperfections in tea cups, etc., but not in watches.

Psmith · 28 April 2017, 05:33 AM

Well they've already been around for over 12 years...

JR16 · 28 April 2017, 05:35 AM

I'm sure one day there will be shatter proof ceramic

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DJRikki · 28 April 2017, 05:35 AM

Prefer stuff that looks like it was when new.

Loevhagen · 28 April 2017, 05:35 AM

Alu inserts adds personality. The analogy with cars can be replaced by human beings; I like my wife to age with me...and same goes with the watches.

kilyung · 28 April 2017, 05:42 AM

Fortunately you can find old aluminium bezel models as well as new ceramics. It's great to have choice.

Shay-J · 28 April 2017, 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

Fortunately you can find old aluminium bezel models as well as new ceramics. It's great to have choice.

Agreed.

I wonder if Rolex ever considered the new model with an alu insert as well as the ceramic?

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Ferdelious · 28 April 2017, 05:53 AM

I like both modern and vintage but if I had to choose one or the other it would be new ceramic.

incontrol · 28 April 2017, 06:01 AM

Choice is good. For me, new is the choice.

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Cerachrom12 · 28 April 2017, 06:06 AM

I like the ceramic inserts with etched in numerals and love the beefy Submariner cases. Throw in all solid link bracelet with glide lock, it's a winner in my book. Have no desire to own any more 5 digit Subs.

amh · 28 April 2017, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP Chestnut

One thing's for sure. The new fat cased watches will look better after 10 or so rounds on the polishing wheel.

Maybe they designed the 'fat' case to last longer!

Etschell · 28 April 2017, 06:19 AM

i like the flashiness of the ceramic bezel. makes it just as blingy as the ss or gold high polished bezel except guess what? it will always retain its shine and not scratch. best of both worlds.

those who prefer aluminum are entitled to their choice.

to answer your question, rolex can always be improved. doubt people envisioned ceramic bezel watches 30 years ago.

Rolexing24_7 · 28 April 2017, 06:37 AM

Got to love ceramic

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ejvette · 28 April 2017, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkerrmd

my thoughts are just like a new car, the longer it looks new the better to me. I have no attraction to a faded worn out beat up looking car, make sense?

maybe the vintage forum is for you!

Tom I absolutely agree with that statement

JP Chestnut · 28 April 2017, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amh

Maybe they designed the 'fat' case to last longer!

I seriously think that they removed the chamfer and swaped the radial brushing on the lugs with straight to make refinishing simpler and faster so the RSCs can spend less time.

116500LN · 28 April 2017, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loevhagen

I like my wife to age with me...and same goes with the watches.

I wish mine were ceramic and looked 18 forever.

schnitzerphilip · 28 April 2017, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkerrmd

my thoughts are just like a new car, the longer it looks new the better to me. I have no attraction to a faded worn out beat up looking car, make sense?

maybe the vintage forum is for you!

Hear hear.

Long live the Ceramic (literally).

sco · 28 April 2017, 07:08 AM

I'm great with the insert not aging. The dial, case, bracelet, hands, markers, or the super luminova won't age either. To me that's timeless and just how I like it

breitlings · 28 April 2017, 07:11 AM

they can scratch.

Cryten · 28 April 2017, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkerrmd

my thoughts are just like a new car, the longer it looks new the better to me. I have no attraction to a faded worn out beat up looking car, make sense?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shay-J

I wonder if Rolex ever considered the new model with an alu insert as well as the ceramic?

Not on a million years. Rolex move forward, not backwards and ceramic is here to stay.

If you like Aluminium inserts there's always Tudor.

Snow-Dweller · 28 April 2017, 07:51 AM

I absolutely love the ceramic bezels. IMHO they're close to perfection.

arcadelt · 28 April 2017, 08:08 AM

Wow, this discussion is similar to the many discussions on Hesalite vs Sapphire crystals on the Omega Speedmaster, except in those opinion falls predominantly on Hesalite.

AK797 · 28 April 2017, 08:10 AM

I love the ceramic bezel more and more, every time my metal bezels gets a mark it hurts. Bracelet and case don't bother me.

SeaAndSky · 28 April 2017, 08:12 AM

They scratch. I have two very small marks on mine from smashing it into something. You really have to look to see it though. And I'm not swapping it out at service time. I love patina and want to see how a bezel cerachrome bezel looks after a lifetime well used.

28 April 2017, 05:17 AM	#1
Shay-J "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: U.K. Watch: 124060 Posts: 72	Ceramic bezel, infinite state of perfection? Are these watches now too perfect? They will not fade, not scratch, not age, but they will shatter. I love nothing more than an old sub showing signs of use, they take on their own personality. Will the ceramics look good in 20 years time? What's your thoughts.............? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

28 April 2017, 05:33 AM	#8
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	Well they've already been around for over 12 years... __________________

28 April 2017, 05:35 AM	#10
DJRikki "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Real Name: Ricardo Location: Scotland Watch: Rolex BLNR Posts: 851	Prefer stuff that looks like it was when new. __________________ Watch Enthusiast

28 April 2017, 05:53 AM	#14
Ferdelious 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Matt Location: Tampa, FL Watch: Hulk/SD4K/SeaQ/P39 Posts: 3,203	I like both modern and vintage but if I had to choose one or the other it would be new ceramic. __________________ Why is it, "A penny for your thoughts," but, "you have to put your two cents in?" Somebody's making a penny.

28 April 2017, 06:01 AM	#15
incontrol "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Kevin Location: Somewhere in PA Watch: All of them... Posts: 10,355	Choice is good. For me, new is the choice. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Patek Philippe Rolex

28 April 2017, 05:18 AM	#2
tkerrmd "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tom Location: In a race car! Watch: ME RACE PORSCHES Posts: 24,123	my thoughts are just like a new car, the longer it looks new the better to me. I have no attraction to a faded worn out beat up looking car, make sense? maybe the vintage forum is for you!

28 April 2017, 05:25 AM	#3
JSolano305 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Miami 305 Watch: 114060/116710BLNR Posts: 903	Ceramic bezel is top notch. Such perfection by Rolex.

28 April 2017, 05:26 AM	#4
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,307	What they said. ^ and ^^ I'm sure one of these days Padi will come around.

28 April 2017, 05:27 AM	#5
SeaDweller50 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Sandy Location: England. Watch: 14060M 2 liner Posts: 3,204	Agreed Tom.

28 April 2017, 05:32 AM	#6
JP Chestnut Banned Join Date: May 2012 Location: Ann Arbor MI Watch: Rolex Ref 16600 Posts: 3,908	One thing's for sure. The new fat cased watches will look better after 10 or so rounds on the polishing wheel.

28 April 2017, 05:32 AM	#7
locutus49 Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: John Location: La Jolla, CA Watch: Platona Posts: 12,194	Why would you want something that wears quickly? Yes, the Japanese like small imperfections in tea cups, etc., but not in watches.

28 April 2017, 05:35 AM	#9
JR16 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Posts: 6,253	I'm sure one day there will be shatter proof ceramic Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

28 April 2017, 05:35 AM	#11
Loevhagen "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: The aperture Posts: 4,941	Alu inserts adds personality. The analogy with cars can be replaced by human beings; I like my wife to age with me...and same goes with the watches.

28 April 2017, 05:42 AM	#12
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Fortunately you can find old aluminium bezel models as well as new ceramics. It's great to have choice.

28 April 2017, 06:06 AM	#16
Cerachrom12 Banned Join Date: Jan 2017 Real Name: Geoff Location: USA Watch: ing you! Posts: 502	I like the ceramic inserts with etched in numerals and love the beefy Submariner cases. Throw in all solid link bracelet with glide lock, it's a winner in my book. Have no desire to own any more 5 digit Subs.

28 April 2017, 06:19 AM	#18
Etschell "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL Watch: platinum sub Posts: 15,884	i like the flashiness of the ceramic bezel. makes it just as blingy as the ss or gold high polished bezel except guess what? it will always retain its shine and not scratch. best of both worlds. those who prefer aluminum are entitled to their choice. to answer your question, rolex can always be improved. doubt people envisioned ceramic bezel watches 30 years ago. __________________ If you wind it, they will run. 25 or 6 to 4.

28 April 2017, 06:37 AM	#19
Rolexing24_7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: @rolexing24_7 Location: Miami Watch: DAYTONAS Posts: 492	Got to love ceramic Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 April 2017, 07:08 AM	#24
sco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Chicago Watch: Subc AT 8500 CSO Posts: 3,646	I'm great with the insert not aging. The dial, case, bracelet, hands, markers, or the super luminova won't age either. To me that's timeless and just how I like it

28 April 2017, 07:11 AM	#25
breitlings Banned Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Bethesda Watch: Apple TV Posts: 5,744	they can scratch.

28 April 2017, 07:51 AM	#27
Snow-Dweller 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Clive Location: The Alps Watch: collections change Posts: 6,284	I absolutely love the ceramic bezels. IMHO they're close to perfection. __________________ . The path from WIShood to WISdom can have many turnings... ——————————————————————————————————— . 16803. 16570. 18038. 114300. GMW-B5000D.

28 April 2017, 08:08 AM	#28
arcadelt "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Monaro, NSW Posts: 846	Wow, this discussion is similar to the many discussions on Hesalite vs Sapphire crystals on the Omega Speedmaster, except in those opinion falls predominantly on Hesalite.

28 April 2017, 08:10 AM	#29
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	I love the ceramic bezel more and more, every time my metal bezels gets a mark it hurts. Bracelet and case don't bother me.

28 April 2017, 08:12 AM	#30
SeaAndSky "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Wild Blue Yonder Watch: 116710 LN Posts: 1,613	They scratch. I have two very small marks on mine from smashing it into something. You really have to look to see it though. And I'm not swapping it out at service time. I love patina and want to see how a bezel cerachrome bezel looks after a lifetime well used.

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